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Chuck-the-ADDragon — Star Trek Avatar Crossover
Published: 2010-04-15 04:12:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 1280; Favourites: 11; Downloads: 28
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Omg, there are flaws and continuity errors!Anyway, this is an idea that's been floating around in my head for a really long time, and i decided to put it on file. It was an amazingly fun deviation to make. I like how much taller Jake is that everyone else
While making this, i realized Star Trek's major flaw: the lack of any really different alien characters in the crew. Think about it, there was only Spock! All of the Red Shirt characters who were there only to die were human!
Star Wars did that to a much greater effect; there were alien characters who moved and interacted as if nothing was different about them at all.
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So did your mom, last night.
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Oh god he gon die he in a red shirt. Been nice knowing you.
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You and I think alike, Chuck.
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Ah, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
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I think the lighting's a bit inconsistent here. Well, glaringly so. The trekkies are all bathed in very bright light, making their shirts stand out sharply and generally not looking shadowy at all. But the new crewmember there is inexplicably dark.
Also, I find it very strange that his forehead has been cut off there. He's kind of the focus of the picture, yet you've got him partly outside of the frame and in a rather awkward way, too. Also, from what I've learned from Mr. Haeger, having the top of the head cut off makes viewers uncomfortable for some reason.
Just my thoughts...
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In the original picture, his forehead is missing; there are no other pictures i can use. The lighting is unfixable; I've tried many different methods.
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You can't just brighten him? Alas.
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I lightened it to the same relative level, but i had trouble removing the wrinkles; it looked like crap.
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...Wrinkles?
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None of the other shirts seem to have wrinkles because of the direction of the lighting.
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There weren't a lot of aliens on the original Enterprise for purely budgetary reasons; there was simply no way the sorts of creatures seen in later series could have been created on a Sixties TV makeup budget. They could barely afford to keep the camera focused when a pretty girl was in close-up.
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The focus problem was more likely a testosterone problem than a camera problem, and a lot of the effects that they did with the aliens looked really good! The Orion slave girl in the original pilot "The Cage", Spock's ears, the giant headed people from the Cage? They all looked pretty good for the special effects of the time.
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As a counter arguement, I will simply say, "Gorn", and I will leave it at that.
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What's gorn? Was that the lizard thing from worst fight scene ever? Because i think that was just them overachieving. They oculd do some things better, but that was just laughable.
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Oh, yes, that's the one. Although it's got good company in that regard. The Horta, which I think was supposed to look like a sentient lava flow, but just looked like a guy under a few blankets sewn together. Also, the "giant" cat shadow from Catspaw. What I'm saying is that in the origian show, they didn't even have enough money to just glue some bumps onto a random part of the alien anatomy, and call it a day, like they did in later shows. And Stargate.
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I think that if they had the money to do spock's ears for every episode, and to pay every actor whose character they killed off, they had some extra money to put blue body paint on someone who, most likely, would br in only one scene before dying anyway.
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You would think that, but clearly it never crossed anybody's mind.
As a consolation, there were a few characters in the animated Star Trek that were indisputably alien.
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And that was my point all along.
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So now we're full circle.
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Yes. But circles make the world go round.
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Very funny. I really like this.
Yes, there were fewer aliens in the classic series, but the classic series books did have a few more aliens on the Enterprise than the show. Maybe because it was so hard to create special effects in the 60s (and you don't have to worry about effects in books). It did get easier later... we got to see more aliens in later shows like Babylon 5. (It would be fun to see a B5 ensemble picture with a Na'vi ambassador.) CGI and better prostethics make for easier and more frequent aliens. Actually, the original series went out on a limb as it was... it had a multi-cultural crew in a time when America was deep in the middle of the civil rights movement. Having a female on the bridge crew -- let alone one of color -- might not be such a big deal today, but I think it was a bit of a shock back then. Not to mention, there was a Russian on the crew in the middle of a real life Cold War. Even when I was a kid in the 80s watching the reruns, it seemed a wonder that someone from Russia was working alongside someone from Iowa (Captain Kirk's home state)... peacefully! So, maybe there were not a whole lot of aliens on the crew, but for its time it did a lot to breach racial and national barriers. Roddenberry took a lot of chances, considering the prevailing culture at the time, but it is good that he did. I honestly think a lot of what he did in the series helped change people's attitudes. We're not perfect yet by any means, but I think we have gotten better.
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I realize how many civil rights messages were in Star Trek; the kiss between Kirk and Uhura was the first interracial kiss in the history of television. There was a time when that would have been akin to pornography. Now interracial couples are in a lot of tv series - Heroes, LOST, Bones - I think Roddenberry's message got through, personally.
Were the books actually canonical? I thought that they were written independently of the show.
I just think that it wasn't that hard to occasionally put aliens with weird characteristics into the series. In the original pilot, "the cage", the actually had a green woman in there, and that was a really low-budget episode. I thought it would enhance the feel of the show if they sponsored a random blue guy as the guy who was there just to die, and have the main cast have absolutely no reaction to the fact that he was blue; like there are no references to Uhura being black.
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lol... funny..
but Jake is tooo short... I can see where you tried to fit him into the screen... but he is 10 foot tall.. than would put than average person at his bellybutton not his nipples
this startrek just when humans are beginning to explore space... thats why there isnt aliens on the crew... expect for spock... b/c he is there b/c the vulcan's attitude of keeping an eye on this emergence species.. they know space... their attitude is that they know way more than humans.. thats why spock is science officer
star war is another time period entire different concept.. humans been out into space so long that there is no meantion of earth... we could even assume that the characters we 'associate as human' arent human at all... that they evolve from sponges on a far distance unnamed planet and ventured into space after assuming bipedal movement...
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Umm... i wasn't trying to insult you with that, by the way. I was just playing the devil's advocate.
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sorite i wassnt offended...
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Kk, i was just looking at the comments, and realized that comment could be seen as a bit snooty.
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I can't make him as tall as you're suggesting without removing most of his head from the image. That would still be funny, but not the effect that i'm going for. I wanted him to be recognizable among other recognizable faces.
Star Trek is 2 separate words, and that first sentence made no sense. Star Trek Enterprise, a spin off of TOS, was set in the earlier days of space travel, in the year 2151, the 22nd century. The original series is in the 24th century nearly 200 years later. They had time to develop better technology, and better relations with other planets. Even the Star Trek reboot agrees with me, because there's a green woman, and no one comments on her greenness. The fact that she is a normal red-shirt character besides her appearance just enhances my point.
ok, you have a point there, but:
*it is spelled m-e-n-t-i-o-n-e-d
*Your use of the word "assuming" is not accurate. Something like "achieving" is better suited for that sentence
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They put a green character in the movie because fans would have complained without a green-skinned space babe. In fact, I bet a few are upset because Kirk did not try to bed her.
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... he did bed her... the first time we saw her, they were... ah... biblical...
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I didn't see the movie, only a few clips on the Internet. I just assumed it was just an extra they put in there as fan service; I didn't she was also there for the other kind of fanservice.
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OMG, it's an amazing movie! It's my 1.5th favorite movie. It disproves the theory that every odd-numbered Star Trek is crap. But yeah... there was a green woman. She was kind of awesome, but she's only there for a moment in the movie.
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Stop replying so fast; you're giving me whiplash.
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