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Published: 2012-04-20 09:06:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 2793; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 80
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Commission for the Barony Krae Glass. The dolphin on the left is Zaul and the other is billy joe. Yes, those are dolphins.(c) to me and the Barony of Krae Glass
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I feel that I should add a note for the historical reenacters. While I Tried to keep this as true to the period as possible there were some concessions I made in the name of just plain coolness. The first is of course the waves, while adhering pretty closely I feel to illuminated water of the time, I have found no example of them being used in a crest like this. The second deliberate inaccuracy is the octopus. There are quite simply no illustrations of octopuses (that I could find after several hours in books and google) in medieval Europe to reference from. They used them in Greek, and their are renascence images of kracken, but nothing in Europe, even though I am resonably sure they were aware of the creatures.
I acknowledge these sacrifices in the name of art, but I regret nothing!
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My boots are soggy after viewing this deviation! But seriously, this is pretty cool! I also haven't seen waves used this way, but you could say it's elaborate mantling. Mantling can be pretty much what you want, since it was never regulated in any serious way. My only critique would be to make the crest bigger. OWN that octopus!
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For next crest, more octopus... got it XD
He went down well at any rate, they named him zoidberg I believe.
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We gotta get the heralds on that.
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Very Good start 
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I respond to this in the same way XD, this is *not* contemporary or personal heraldry but for an existing group defined by a geographic area, and two, I had plenty examples of land heraldry using a crown and not a helm from the time periods I was referencing. The coranette is an actual regalia of the group, and therefore far more appropriate.
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XD that's easy, you cant put it in a burger.
trufact
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Burger? Damn now I'm hungry for a Burger, but all we've got is a Maccas and it won't open for another 3 hours yet.....
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XD there are places around here you can get a kangaroo/emu patty. coat of arms burger XD
that's how you respect your heraldry man, eat it!
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Oh such a silly argument that, I am sure the people of Andorra eat beef and there were certainly many pigs eaten during Richard III's reign when the English Arms were supported by two white boars... So I am a bit sick of the namby pamby's using that argument to not eat good meat (Rant over)
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People actually use that argument?
And Iceland has it worst, that's a beef,dragon,griffon,manwich. They eat some crazy stuff but one thinks that they have not resorted to cannibalism....yet.
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Yes they have used that argument, and no cannibalism is bad
On another Note I believe Aib-the-sun-god has asked you to join the Aquilaan Empire, I do hope you shall
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I do need to respond to that, thank you for reminding me
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I hope you do as I would gladly welcome you to the Empire
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It looks amazing, congratulations!!!
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Thank you! colours with this sort of restricted palette are hard and I had trouble with them, I'm glad they appeal
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I really love blue-yellow combination in CoAs (I have one too) so I could easily say it caught my eye immediately.
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Haha I did luck out there, those are the groups colours, and were great to work with!
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Still, I like it very much!
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Very nice and generally heraldic. Of course, it's rather lavish and baroque, but so was baroque heraldry (duh). There are indeed examples of water in compartment, most of them rather recent, of course, but they're there. Also, I believe I have seen some late fifteenth century German illustrations of octopuses (or krakens or whatever) somewhere. Minor nitpick: the helmet is missing, which I (as a German) despise, and the crest (the thing atop the coat of arms) is rather tiny. Also, there must not be a wreath underneath a coronet.
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Thanks!
I rarely see helmets in states or country heraldry, Usually I associate them with personal or family arms,and helmets were in none of the examples I was working off, so I'm going to go ahead and defend that one but feel free to prove me wrong. I'm an enthusiast, but I concede my amateurism on the subject, (and I certainly don't see them plastered on everything where I live XD.)
But as for water in compartment (my terminology is terribly small for this, is that how you say it?) I would just love to see other examples! The same goes for those octopuses, if you know where a reference is I would just love to see it! I spent hours looking, but google searching can be a fickle mistress, and one only has so much time to flip through books.
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Well, it's true that helmets are often omitted, especially in corporate heraldry or when crowns are used (plus the French). However, at least in the German tradition, a crest that is not a crown cannot be displayed without a helmet and in British heraldry, a crest always has a helmet somewhere, even if it's collecting dust in a cupboard. The College of Arms displays all grants of arms and crest with a helmet (for example, [link] ). Also, corporate arms usually have crests and thus helmets -- from the royal arms (upon the royal helmet , St. Edward's Crown proper, mantling Or and Ermine, a Lion statant guardant Or langued & armed Gules royally crowned) to the arms of the BBC (On a wreath Argent and Azure, a Lion passant Or, grasping in the dexter fore-paw a Thunderbolt proper). Still, helmets are often omitted in insular tradition, so you're still on the safe side.
Then you will love this 
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I did love it thank you! nothing like my artistic licence but it does support my case. I was sure there were octopuses to... one day Ill find one.
The usage of helmets and crowns makes me wonder if in heraldic tradition they were considered the same slot. perhaps there are helmets because that was the substitution and lesser version of the 'crown' for knights and other nobility. The knights/lords wanted something there, because one follows the trends of the royalty, a way of indicating they had prestige without insulting the crown. Then by inference, it becomes a rule within the college of heralds because one would certainly not want to accidentally slight a lord.
There's probably people who know, but its interesting to speculate about
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Well, heraldry originated in high-mediaeval tournaments. Everyone of knightly status or above had a crest, a physical object on his helmet for the joust, including sovereign princes. For example, the King of Aragon had a crest of a Dragon Or, that of Castile a Castle Or, the King of France a Fleur-de-lis Or, the Emperor an Eagle displayed Sable, the King of England a Lion statant guardant Or upon a chapeau Gules lined Ermine. Even today, crests and crowns live on in the Royal Arms of Her Majesty in right of the UK, which has for a crest upon the royal helmet the crown, thereupon aforesaid lion.
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And who said you never learn anything interesting from comments on DA eh? sweet.
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We don't have that on youtube XD
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wow man, this is incredibly awesome
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