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CJSutcliffe — Queens Of Speed
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Published: 2010-03-29 22:05:25 +0000 UTC; Views: 2601; Favourites: 78; Downloads: 78
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The East vs. The West.The old vs. the new.
The steam vs. the electric.
The loco vs. the unit.
To the right, an LNER A4, one of 35 locomotives that as Mallard proved in 1938 are among the fastest in the world.
To the left, a British Rail Class 390 Pendolino EMU, a tilting train operated by Virgin which holds the southbound non stop record from Glasgow to London fully loaded.
I know which one I'd rather have...
#DaRailyard 's deviation of the week (4/4/10-4/10/10)
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Just shows that the modern engine still has kept the A4's shape.
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It just show you that a 1930 steam loco still looks modern. Next to a Pendleno .
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I've noticed the crowd gathering around the steam engine...how many people do you think were crowding around the electric train?
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Very few I expect, didn't care that much to notice.
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It is, it shows the evolution of the same basic design principles in streamlining.
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Yeah, fascinating really that old Nigel got it so damn well shaped the best part of a hundred years ago and that the fastest trains in the UK today can manage maybe 20 miles an hour faster than Mallard's record if they were actually allowed to try.
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The Mallard was such a regal and elegant machine.
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Nice picture.
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Hmmm. Never thought about it before, but I wonder if Pendolino used the A4 as inspiration for the 390? Check out the similar shaped fronts.
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No, just good ol' aerodynamics.
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It's a very specific shape, though. If it was just aerodynamics then surely it'd be shaped like a rocket.
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Not really. The rocket travels up in the air. The train travels on track on land. The shape is quite common.
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Formula one cars travel on the land at great speed as do bullet trains. But they don't have that tapered earthworm head shape. Only these two engines seem to. The previous have the conical rocket shape.
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Formula One cars don't have conical rocket shapes. Not even their noses. Bullet trains only traveled at 200 kph until the 1980s. The TGV had a big influence on the Pendolino. The LNER had no influence because they started from scratch in the 1970s.
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Well F1s hardly brick-shaped, are they? They're a flattened cone. That would be considered conical. People get their influences from everywhere. I don't see why the Pendolino designers wouldn't have looked at the fasted ever steam locomotive and thought, ah, they may be onto something there. I'm just looking at it. From a designer's perspective. If I see something that bloody works and does it's job well, I take notice.
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"Well F1s hardly brick-shaped, are they?"
Irrelevant.
"They're a flattened cone."
No. Besides, flattened cones AREN'T cones anymore.
"That would be considered conical."
No, it wouldn't. If you continue with the "it's conical" argument that means you can't find a better explanation and you've lost the argument.
"People get their influences from everywhere."
Not really although they can get it from a lot of places although often you don't need influences.
"I don't see why the Pendolino designers wouldn't have looked at the fasted ever steam locomotive and thought, ah, they may be onto something there."
Because they're outdated, there was less nostalgia and there is aerodynamics and there was the TGV.
"I'm just looking at it. From a designer's perspective."
You're not. You're looking from a steam engine enthusiast's perspective.
"If I see something that bloody works and does it's job well, I take notice."
You don't have to. There is aerodynamics. Also this argument better supports the idea that the TGV was the influence than the LNER A4.
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Oh, good god. I'm not even going to bother reading this. I can see you just trawl dA to argue with people. You're wasting my time. Move along.
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You should see the hidden comment...
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A great comparison of then and now, although then wins every time!
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Now doesn't stand a chance. Progress was meant to improve, but on an admiration scale, things just died on 11th August 1968...
Thanks for the comment.
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Nice comparison of the EMU vs steam train
Just out of interest, where is this taken? I'm tempted to say Manchester Piccadilly...
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And you'd be spot on the money, platform 7 up near the bufferstop.
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Featured for DaRailyard's deviation of the week! [link]
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It's a VIRGIN! VIRGIN! VIRGIN! (Young Ones joke)
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It's interesting how similar their shapes are.
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Indeed, the streamlining is incredibly similar. Just goes to show how earlier streamlined locos influenced the design of some more modern rolling stock.
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Lovely comparrison shot, and a certain degree of design evolution present
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Ooo...aren't we classy!! Wow! I would have to join you on that train, without hesitation!
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I've seen Bittern many times and also shot her countless amounts of times aswell but none are as good as this!
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That horrible thing on the left, is no comparison to Bittern !
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