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AHh, haven't had much to submit lately.. D:I doodle Subcat occasionally! Did this yesterday. Still can't remember the idea I had for the short though DX
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I love so much faces of the cat and the fish ! lil
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I love your style jfc. Can I just throw /all of my money at you/ and plead for you to draw my future egyptian mau in the, uh, future? Ahaha I'll have to stalk your commission status like a hawk when that day comes. 
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Hahaha! Yeah, that'll be the day, I havent taken commissions on DA in years XD thank you!!!
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Shhh, miracles happen once in a while if you ~*~believe~*~. Only now I'm just quoting song lyrics OTL.
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That's cool!
I thought it was a bobcat but.... bobcats don't have such a long tail hehehe
Good job as usual
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Haha yeah, im not sure what he is.. just a subcat, i guess!
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Love how slinky you've made the feline, and the monochrome, works well with it all n.n
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Thanks! Im glad it comes off as slinky just from the back view, haha
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So slinky, could be a kittyleech XD
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The fish is so funny! He's like, "Yeah I'm a fish. Move on." The cat's whiskers are so pretty! I cant never get whiskers to look right!
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Looks really cute. I love the cat's expression. :3
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Doesn't seeem like it's that hard to remember, does it? (God, I'm looking through old art too and finding characters from projects that (due to either rights conflicts or sheer apathy) never got off the ground.
What intrigues me, though, is the sheer formula for the conflict. Easily graspable, simple to animate, easily stylized, lends itself to good abstract light patterns, and, of course, has the aura of 'Why the hell didn't I think of that?'
Reminds me of a thought I had of a short involving a cat city on the ocean (that looks like it was made out of cat toys) that lives off fishing; where the social class rank is determined by how far away you are from the water. (Most of the main action would take place in a casino where they gamble with both money and up to nine of their lives - that part intrigues me likewise.) It's nowhere near as coherent plot-wise as some of my other short ideas, but the environment and the mode of conflict make it automatically worth heavy consideration. That's what this reminds me of - the vibe that atmosphere and basic concept will erase all concerns about the plot or gags. You create this, and I can tell you it'll feature pretty highly in a shorts competition or something... by dint of concept alone.
[link] Also, I didn't get to finish a piece of fanart I was planning on surprising you with, but the linework and composition alone was worth a post...
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Haha subcat?
Would be sooo fun to animate, super difficult as well, i'm rotten with light lanky things.
Ahaha looks like you've got a story to pick up on though! Gotta love social class of animals in odd living situations, haha!
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Fun is right - the shape of this guy and the caricatures...
Light lanky things are fun as hell once you get to know them. What probably helps is if you get the poses down first full-size before animation. See, light and lanky types, with their limbs that splay everyplace and yet have to all touch the ground or the objects they manipulate, take a certain degree of foreplanning to make solid.
Well, the main attraction to the Cat City one would be my soundtrack. Completely written and half recorded, it's little more than 'Bolero'-esque variations in tone on a single, 2 measure guitar riff played on multiple guitars and settings and overlapped. (I have no patience for transcription, but it was nearly identical to the riff to 'Alex Chilton.')
Thought it would keep everything to a driving, Wilfred Jackson beat - and an interesting gimmick for the festivals.
But - hey, I'm curious on your side - do you ever have projects that your brain says 'this is a good idea' contrast with projects that your brain orders you to make before you get shot in a drive-by? I only have four projects in the latter camp (working on for years and set to stretch out over many more) and the contrast between them and my throwaway ideas astonish me.
What, you've never seen/done fanart yet? 
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Yeah, a LOT of pre planning for posing will have to be done, but at the same time, something so long and light will be fun to weave in and out of environments. Meh! maybe i'll do a test or two sometime C:
Ahh, yeah thats the part I tend to neglect over the course of a project, I'm not so good with any sort of soundtrack, although I do like adding in sound effects!
Yeah, I guess. I have a string of projects sitting in my mind right now that have sort of stuck with me over the years, some feel more worthwhile and important than others. Anything besides those are just the reaaally tiny beginnings of what could be a story or film that never quite take off (yet.) AAeehhh.
I dunno! I'm just totally stumped as to which project I need to pick up right now, Anchor seems like my best bet, as it could go in so many other directions beyond just a pitch idea for a show. AND UGH! I keep forgetting about gatordog!! DX And now i've been fleshing out a childrens book idea too.. So much to do, so little motivation XD
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What helps is an understanding of graphic silhouette - and I'd recommend you check out some of Rod Scribner's animation. He always drew them kinda tall...
It's easier to draw fatties, but much easier to animate lankies. So many more interesting shapes to play with!^^
So, I'm curious - do you often lay out your poses fullsize beforehand, or do you really just wing it? I personally thumbnail everything, then throw the finished work out because I have a bad 'shrinking' habit. Wondering if fullsize character layouts would keep me consistent.
One of my 'drive by' ideas (which I haven't posted anything on dA of, it's quite sexually explicit) is presented as being played by a piano. The piano creates images, and part of the conceit is the total lack of music. All sound effects. I figure it'll save me time...
(Another film is adapted from an operetta and needs to retain the melodies, so that's arranging practice; another is a pastiche of Respighi's style spiced with actual quotes from 'The Birds' and the 'Rome' trilogy....not giving myself much room for composition, eh?)
Hrm, you could always try to write some of them down, see what people think. There's an apalling tendency of the audience to judge a concept more than a film (because they can't sympathise with craftsmanship, but CAN sympathize with having the best movie idea in the history of ever!)
Well, they're more likely to be made than an Opera - American - about Abu Sufyan. (Great story, have no idea why I'm trying to libretto it.) XD I oughtta try my hand at kid's books one of these days, because having art in vignettes just seems so awesome. And I used to be such a nerd for them!
(I have no ability to do art that isn't serving a purpose - the graphic design or the storytelling or something...)
Anchor could simply be a webseries...or a children's book series... anything really. (Although I would love to see Vince drawn in a parody of Dick Thompson's Shropshire Slasher fight.) I'd say that you have enough interesting elements in it already to put it anywhere you like.
Gatordog you should finish first - put it in the festival rounds, get your name out there. It establishes enough of your style.
(Me, I know so little that I'm making films to teach myself. I'm nowhere near your level of skill yet.)
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Yeah, and thats definitely something i'll need to study up on. I tend to just wing it for animation, i mean.. I sit and think on an action real well before I attempt, but once I start I tend to get carried away in the flow of whatever im doing. I do end up needing to thumbnail still sometimes though.
Haha oh my! You should do animatics for them! I never really have the music before I start the story/animatic, i bet it would really be helpful though!
And yeah, Anchor is fairly open to just about any form of storytelling, although I really like the idea of an episode based show. Maybe even a short homemade one for now. I'm slowly trying to solidify ideas, I dont think winging something that time consuming would be a good idea at this point XD
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You're one of those Jim Tyer types? I won't deny that I can see you often just cutting it jazzy and loose... (that test you made of Camille exceptionally so!)
I spent most of my learning period unable to afford a lot of bond paper (trying to figure out how to make 17 sheets of paper last 8 feet), so I had to plan and plan ahead the extremes (telling myself 'The inbetweens will just go in later when I can afford the paper, and if the animation doesn't turn out to be shit'). I envy that carefreedom!
I have some pieces that are basically animatic - all about setting sound up in the right way and colour timing and shit. Maybe I'll finish and post a few...
Don't just wing it if it'll eat your time up! But my philosophy runs towards 'If you build it, they will come.' It worked for Led Zeppelin.
What I'm proposing for you is to get at the bare minimum an animatic or test scene set of Gatordog and some pitch art for Anchor Dog. What you can to impress whom you need to impress.
(I'll need to emphasize the stupidity of my line of thinking by pointing out that during my artistic binges I sleep three hours a night, that I'm Alcohol Intolerant, and that I'm resolutely antisocial - meaning you probably have a lot of the time on your hands taken up by humans and soires and socialization. Be pragmatic, know the limits of your stamina, and please don't kill yourself.)
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Hahaha, maybe not that wild! I bullshit the rough, but still end up having to put the proper time in to get things looking decent XD
Im so slow to reply, sorry, haha. But thank you! Starting the project is always the roughest spot for me, sometimes I just need a little push of encouragement! Im horrible at getting online, but we should try and chat on skype or something!
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And in a studio setting, that so called 'proper time' to get things looking decent will either turn you into Yuri Norshteyn or get you fired.
I generally start the project and write up full treatments and basic design. Where I completely fall flat is trying to prepare honest-to-god concept art of the type that I can show other people...
I'm trying to compile an explanation of 'The Cunning Little Vixen' project, and about half of all the art is layout and storyboard drawings that I've already done. Saves me the work there.
One thing that might help is to draw some concept art and draw in some fans and investors... just thinking, trying to make a film without it is a pain in the ass. Make it easier for yourself. It doesn't have to be a Dreamworks-type film that looks like it had five photoshop-painted concept pieces for every rendered frame, but at least a few visual anchors for your future work.
I'm comfy on dA - nobody reads the comments sections anyway. ^^ But I'll look around for chat programs or something. (I'm terrible at chats, because I type at like 70 wpm, and most people can't read that fast. Of course, that also means I write overlong comments, but eh.)
I haven't gone on skype since my sophomore year of high school. Partly because a conversation on it got me suspended. (Don't ask, but a teenage girl read my muscleflex comments to other guys as 'intention of raep.' Because she was and is a massive drama whore. (I also hold against her some oddly raep-y comments she made towards my (then 13) sister, so...wait, why the hell am I saying this? XD))
If starting the project is such a rough spot, Anchor can wait for a few years while you do your establishing projects. And after me writing all those parody lyrics. "Oh such a riot, oh what a glow [burning building shots] / our island truly has fishing gone / in the wake of a pirate named Ancla Perron -we've all gone crazy, our treasury gone in the dead of the night..." [link]
(That's two Webber songs I've referenced to you in the last two days. I'm dreadfully sorry for that.)
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haha yeah.. Im speedy! but i've never had to work in a real deadline oriented studio setting.. nervewracking!
XD sounds like we have opposite problems! I love the concept art part, I always hope it'll just do the talking for me, and yes... draw in the onlookers!
"It doesn't have to be a Dreamworks-type film that looks like it had five photoshop-painted concept pieces for every rendered frame, " LOLOL, yes.
I hate chat... programs? thingies. I do JoinMe sessions with buddies though, then I can talk and draw at the same time 
I may put it on the back burner, but I love poking at projects every now and then anyways. And oh my gosh XD haha . That link actually saved me from trying to add this comment while my internet was down!
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I've spent the past hour and a half on an endless loop of the Temptation's 'I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie Honey Bunch)'. I'm one to talk of worker productivity.
I'm fast and not too worried, but it freaks me out. I always have to redo my own tests because of amateur mistakes (like the character shrinking) and the notion of having a deadline for those scares me.
I hope I can explain it verbally, but the sad part is that, while I can write dialogue like a pro, I can't write descriptive. (My current description of 'The Cunning Little Vixen' casually bandies about words like 'eryxinophobic', 'anthrophilic,' 'pelf and store', 'akin to Hippolomeme' (Or whoever it was racing Atalanta, I don't know my greek myths), 'best laid plans gang aft agley,' 'de mortuis nil nisi bonum,' 'La Commedia e finite,' and 'cathartestod' (which probably isn't a dictionary word, but a pun between 'catharsis' and 'liebestod', either one of which they might not know...).
If you understand any of those references, I want to chat with you. (Between Wagner, Burns, Leoncavallo, and Anne Bradstreet, I read WAY too much for my own good.)
I saw 'Puss in Boots' a month ago at a matinee of screaming mexican kids (Dreamworks has their marketing on lock, donyey?) - and it looked as if they built neverending pages of concept art for every board in the houses. Far from being 'Thief and the Cobbler'-esque, it was a morass of brain vomit the likes of which one can only imagine after reading 'The Fountainhead.'
(I now love that phrase, 'morass of brain vomit' - thanks for goading me to write that. ^^)
I don't have the resources for 'join.me' sessions, but it sounds fun as hell. Chat programs tend to be little boxes of nothingness...hallelujah, kindred soul.
We were at an age when everybody involved was fucking stupid. (My friends dismissed it as 'ho shit', only I was thinking, how could I have been so stupid as to not even check who was in the chatroom?)
I can picture Vince as Che, with a giant classical guitar... (well, giant for his size.)
I have a lot of things that should rightfully be on the back burner. Once I compile an investor's description of 'Vixen' I might throw that on the back burner in favor of the smaller films. (One of them I haven't any animation yet, but the complete colour scheme mapped out save two cutaway shots. XD So erratic!)
The problem with that strategy, though, is that compiling it means assembling colour model charts for every character (something I put off for a year and a half), writing down a history, putting a cast page up, drawing the accompanying concept art, paring down my references to Ruggero Leoncavallo and Greek psychologial nomina in the full story synopsis...
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The answers to the references above, if you don't recognize one or two of them - And, because you earned it - 'Eryxinophobia' is dehumanizationatorily negative perception, violence against, or discrimination towards sexually liberated females; 'anthrophile' is a lover of humans, like one's pet dog or Ayn Rand; 'pelf and store' is a reference to a line from Anne Bradstreet's "Here followes some verses upon the burning of our house, July 10th, 1666" ("There's [Heaven] wealth enough, I neede no more / Farewell my pelf, farewell my store / the world no longer let me love, / my earthly treasure lies above."); 'Hippomenes' (or Meleanon) was in Greek Myth the victor to Atalanta's footrace with the aid of irresistable golden apples (See the Judgement of Paris, skyliae like dem gold apples); 'skyliae' is the plural female nominative form of the greek term for 'bitch;' 'gang aft agley' means to often go awry (akin to a plan) and is from the original scottish form of Robert Burns' "To A Mouse" ("But Mousie, thou art no thy lane / In proving foresight may be vain: / The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men / gang aft agley, / an' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain, / for promis'd joy!") Not only the inspiration for Steinbeck's title, it's a beautiful poem, memorize it today if anything; "De Mortuis Nil Nisi Bonum' is a latin phrase meaning 'Speak nothing but good of the dead'; "La Commedia e Finite" (The comedy is over, or the play is finished) is the famous final line of Ruggero Leoncavallo's "I Pagliacci," and no performance agrees whether Canio or Tonio says it; "Cathartestod" is a mixture of 'Catharsis,' from the greek κάθαΟΟΞΉΟ, to clean or wash the soul (you've heard of this one, probably) and Richard Wagner's conception of the 'Liebestod,' literally 'Love Death' in English. What it comes down to is the female lead redeeming the male lead through dying for him. (Nota bene that Senta (Die Flueguende Hollander), Elisabeth (Tannhauser), Elsa (Lohengrin), Brunhilde, Isolde, Thisbe, Juliet, Heathcliff [Wuthering Heights], Poryphyra's lover, Young Werther...) But theoretically, as I use it, it means love (and by extention Catharsis) as brought to highest peak by mortality.
I do adore Schopenhauer, you can read Animation as the attempt to attain the Noumenon and the 'desire gulf' is a fair description of not being able to finish a film...ertrinken, versinken, - unbewusst, - hΓΆchste Lust! [The final lines of 'Tristan und Isolde,' meaning 'to drown, to flounder, unconscious - the greatest of all joys!' as a dying Isolde sings over Tristan's corpse. I am a frighteningly knowledgable Wagner nut.])
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OH GOSH WAIT!
is this the monster comment i just replied to XDD
You just have a full brain waiting to explode! you should start on a blog for animation/film commentary, that'd be sweet!
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Deadlines not enough of a problem for you if you can read comments and such? This was the fabled monster comment.
I'd agree that were I to make features, the excuse would have to be that I want to do things that the mainstream ISN'T doing. Worlds that you actually soak in instead of just 'feeling,' as they put it; copious coitus; fuzzy characters; pleasingly listenable dialogue; clear, moist soundtrack (with the microphone set on 'medium'); realistic camera shots; thrillingly abrupt tone shifts...
I would love to do a blog like that if I knew ENOUGH. I know too little to justify itself. But maybe I'll start a continuing blog about teaching Looney Tunes to high schoolers...
And it does sound intriguing! A personal blog, where nobody gives a shit when you swing from one post to the next between Washam and Wagner and Wasabi recipes.
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Hahaha I didnt realize, it snuck up on me!
And of course, thats the only way to go
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Eh, things happen.
Personal blogging sounds so much fun...
'Making 'em move' is on my shopping list, and I love a lot of the shit Thunderbean turns out. But personally, I don't know him.
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i think i merged two comment answers into one.
Derp!
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We all do that sometimes. XD
A blog sounds fun, but I'm worried that, because of my mild Aspergers, a blog of mine'd be like Steven Hartley or Grayson Ponti - just another autistic american teenager with a blog obsessive with old cartoons (although I'll probably have better grammar. XD)
And that old stereotype about run-ons? It's pretty true. How many neurotypicals do you see scribing sentences akin to "Clampett certainly had a much edgier and sharper timing than he did earlier where in this era his timing was very fluid and I'm mentioning this because I feel it would be interesting to keep going through the years when we watch Clampett's timing get sharper through those years"?
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I think it looks really nice, and the color scheme is very suiting! C:
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aww haven't seen Subcat in a while! I don't think I realized he had spots until just now :3
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Haha he had like... three spottish markings on his limbs/back/face, my kitty sort of inspired the full out spots. Cant imagine animating them though! haha.
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I love how lean and tall the cat is... I can never manage to draw anything but short and chubby ones! To each their own~
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I have that very same issue! I was hoping with a long slender body, drawing subcat would force me to make more dynamic poses (or really lazy ones, haha) Im usually drawing short chubbing things though XD
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Aha, indeed, it seems like you are a=just a tad bit better at it than I am- it'll always be a challenge for us chubby-lovers!
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Oh I have loved subcat! So glad he's back!
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