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Published: 2010-08-01 18:31:30 +0000 UTC; Views: 1540; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 35
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Now his few joys are: apologizing to dictators, bashing America, snubbing our long time allies and looting the treasury.Fear not, Mr President. The American people will return you community organizing ASAP.
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I wonder what he's like in a pick-up basketball game?
"Hey, man I was open..."
"Dropped it? Now way, man... that was a bad pass!"
"This hoop isn't regulation..."
"This net isn't regulation..."
"This backboard isn't regulation..."
"I'm too used to playing organized, full-court ball..."
"Man, I had three guys on my back that time..."
"My timing's off 'cuz I didn't sleep good last night..."
"This ball needs some air..."
"This ball has too much air in it..."
"This ball isn't regulation..."
etcetera....
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and you are prob being generous there.
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you dont like community organizers. neither does your master Beck.
the following is an excerpt from Sojourners' Magazine...a christian publication:
When radio and TV personality Glenn Beck spits out the phrase βcommunity organizers,β it sounds like a curse. President Obama, of course, was a community organizer in the Altgeld Gardens public housing project in Chicago when he was in his early 20s. That fact alone seems enough to sour Beck on organizers, about whom he has said, βThese people are bullies. These people are thugs.β At other times heβs called them βagitatorsβ bent on establishing a βthugocracy.β
As writer Danny Duncan Collum explains in this issue, Christians are involved in community organizing as public witness to their faith. Churches recognize that sin is not only personal, but also social and economic. Community organizing empowers disenfranchised people to redress the structural sin that leaves them in poverty or at the mercy of corporate greed. When churches address issues of social justice and act with dignity in the public square, they provide an effectiveβand evangelicalβwitness to the gospel.
Beck articulates the fears of the rich and powerful when he warns, βSo, while these community organizers appear to be agitating for one seemingly noble goal or another, their underlying mission is ... βhow the have-nots can take power from the haves.ββ On that score, Beck may be right. Congregation-based community organizing puts into action Maryβs Magnificat: βGod has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; God has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty awayβ (Luke 1:52-53).
have you even read the bible, dickless?
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have you even read the bible, dickless?
Typical "anything-to-win-an-argument" approach. You find an article on the Internet that "proves" your point. You quote scripture that apparently goes with it.... and then this line?
It's easy to cherry-pick scriptures and post them out of context. To equate Obama's "community organizing" with Christians fulfilling the Great Commission is a sad stretch. Sojourner's is a left-leaning magazine, well-outside mainstream Christianity. It is self-described as a "progressive Christian commentary on faith, politics and culture".
I'd suggest reading the whole Bible before you start believing anything someone writes, purporting it to be "Christian".
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the arguments between Conservatoons and i have been going on for a long long time. there is more to this approach on my part than just this thread. many past instances where he has taken stands on issues that are contrary to the teachings of christ. i do realize the ease at which anyone can 'cherry-pick scriptures', but that seems to be all anyone does with their religion anymore, and it is certainly all that they understand in comment form. honestly, i have read the entire bible and found it at least a barbaric, out-of-date cult and at best hypocritical albeit good-intentioned. the bible contains as many inhumane and cruel commands as the koran. they both advocate domestic abuse, murder, and slavery, not to mention the exclusivity of their religion over all others. i do not support anything of the kind. i do believe in the teachings of jeshua al-nazaretha in their purest form. those teachings are pure and what you would call liberal in nature. they are socialist, and they are anti-capitalist. you can believe what you like, and so can i, but when religion and politic ride in the same cart, the whirlwind follows.
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but that seems to be all anyone does with their religion anymore, and it is certainly all that they understand in comment form
The anyone/everyone argument is weak. That's a moral equivalency argument. A true liberal (which hasn't been seen in the party since the likes of Scoop Jackson and George McGovern) eschews that as pure ideology bereft of any moral authority, from whence liberalism was originally derived.
My point, which you missed, was that Christianity wasn't meant to be political. The Jews thought Christ was going to come as a liberator and throw off the yoke of Roman domination. Instead, he came to bring a better, more universal type of liberation.
Reading your post, devoid as it is of capitalization or paragraph breaks, tells me you post not to be understood but to vent. It's kind of reminiscent of the musings of Ted Kaczynski.
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oh great, another assumption. this time my lack of capitalization is some underlying madness. anything to dehumanize your opponents, right?
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anything to dehumanize your opponents, right?
Pot? Is that you calling the kettle black?
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i take nothing away from you or conservatives in general. i do believe you all to be mislead and afraid, not scum or trash or anything else dehumanizing. we are all equal in America, no matter what our political leanings.
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...i do believe you all to be mislead and afraid...
That's a huge assumption based solely on your interpretation. One thing about absolutes is they are wrong as a hypothesis 100% of the time. Unfortunately,one who thinks in absolutes never applies the same rationale to themselves. I think I just ripped off Kierkegaard, there... my apologies.
And yes, I do agree with your stand on equality. I just wish we could all find more common ground, which is really all around us, if we'll only look. Right?
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my belief that conservatives are mislead and afraid is the only summation i can interpret after careful consideration. in other words, my thoughtful opinion. you are free to disagree with that. common ground is a rarity here on the internet, i'm afraid...i am in a perpetual siege mentality due to it. if i assume at all, this is why.
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I agree with what you're saying. But I'll wager that the next time I'm up in Wheeling or Youngstown (I know, but still close), we could get together for a beer and maybe some wings, and our discourse would be completely different. That's because 70% of communication is non-verbal, and the Internet is a sh*t-hole for any kind of discourse. Put another way, if we joined forums with our real names, faces and addresses showing, we'd be a heck of a lot more civil... and honest. I mean, I think I forgot to mention that I'm not really a former Navy Seal married to Miss Sweden 1978, did I? 
Consider this: when you're in a siege mentality, you are letting other folks choose the way you react. I used to mod back on Compuserve, "back in the day" (28K dial up), and it's really easy to lose yourself in the tribalism that goes on in the forums, and wherever.
The beauty of the Internet is that everything feels personal, but none of it is, really.
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this place can definitely bring out the savage. whereas you have been totally reasonable with me despite our disagreement, our host has never once in 6 months given me the benefit of the doubt. this asshole is 30% the reason why i expect the worst sometimes. i know i should do better, and i do with others, but i feel he deserves special attention sometimes.
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Finally, we can both agree that Beck was correct here.
I knew you would come around eventually. The messiah is growing ridiculous even to hardcore hippies.
no hippies please.
follow BO drawing guidelines.
do not skew my polls.
see FAQs.
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yeah, just ignore my challenge to your faith. do you miss my point again? the poor are the vessels of Christ. they are the ones that need to be protected from people like you, according to the religion you claim to believe in. you are a mortal sinner, according to your own beliefs, and you will burn in hell unless you repent. you believe in the bible, so therefore you agree.
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Let's just agree Beck is correct and move on.
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are you retarded or intentionally ignorant and dreadfully insecure? after all this time, i am still not sure. if i receive a childish quip or a bullshit copy-and-paste response, that means retarded.
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So are you w/ Glenn or not? You are losing me.
no hippies please.
follow BO drawing guidelines.
do not skew my polls.
see FAQs.
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verdict: retarded.
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Retarded? What a fine pejorative for a person who claims to be for the weak and the poor. You do realize that "retarded" in the sense you use it is an insult aimed at those who are the weakest and most unfortunate in any society, don't you?
Looking at your profile, I think you can do better. Or, are you out of your league...Donnie?
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actually, retarded means slowed down. i am a musician, and in music, a retard [accent on the tard] is a slowing of the tempo. slow, meaning not as quick. retarded, for me, has nothing to do with the mentally handicapped. to me, it means someone who thinks slower than i do. that must have been your assumptions based on the word 'retarded' the way you see it.
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...to me, it means someone who thinks slower than i do.
That IS the clinical definition of "retarded". By the way, "retarded" hasn't been used in the clinical sense in, what... 25 years?
And we both know that's not how you meant it. Otherwise, you would not have expounded ad nauseum, as you have here and tried to explain it away with mucic theory. Even Obama and Rahm Emmanuel had the stones to apologize for using that word in that sense.
That's like me calling you an ignorant hillbilly. Being from West Virginia, you'd probably assume that I meant it as a pejorative. "Oh, no... I meant it as "ignorant", unknowing of something through no fault of your own. and "hillbilly" as in a person of proud, Scots-Irish ancestry who lives in rural Appalachia." My claim of innocence would amount to claiming that I meant it in the same obtuse, pseudo-intellectual sense you did.
But we both know how I meant it.
I'll make you a deal: you don't BS me and I won't BS you.
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wow. just live your life as if there is nothing you don't already know.
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The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know.
Using the word "retard" and explaining it way is like dropping the "N-word" and trying to explain that away so type of nuance. When old Robert Bird dropped the N-word, even he stepped up and admitted that he screwed up.
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you chose not to take my explanation as legitimate. i told you what i meant, but you didn't believe me. this is your problem. the n-word has no comparison in this case, since it has no other meanings. i understand that people who want to piss me off choose to bring up the Honorable Senator Robert C. Byrd in some pejorative fashion, so save yourself the trouble, and stay on subject.
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No, I don't really have a problem communicating.
I've just read enough of your other postings, where you say here "to sh*t on you", "beat you down", "you people are just a stupid fu*ks", and so on, to suspect anything like, "I meant it in a musical sense", as being anything except some disingenuous, obtuse explanation. Sometimes, our words we spoke yesterday can poison our best intentions today, right?
You also assume that I didn't like Robert Byrd. While I didn't agree with him most times, I saw him as one of those nearly extinct liberals (as opposed as to the moonbats who now masquerade as a 'liberal') who once made the Democratic party great. Both my parents were these classical, "New Deal", liberal-types, and both were life-long Democrats. I admired the Senator when he called out Obama on his many unvetted Czars, as being an end-run around the Senate's Constitutionally-mandated oversight. If you'll recall Byrd also stood up for his colleagues Strom Thurmond and Trent Lott after the flap over Lott's remarks at Thurmond's 100th birthday party. In fact, it was Byrd's remarks on one of the Sunday talk shows where I learned that Senator Thurmond had an adopted black daughter. Byrd, Thurmond, Mansfield, Gore Sr. and that whole bunch of Dixie-crats lived in a different world where the prevailing winds took them places that on balance, most of them wouldn't have otherwise gone. Hell, even FDR couldn't do much on the civil rights front. I think President Clinton alluded to as much as Bob Byrd's funeral.
As far as "retarded" and the "N-word" being different, the result of their use is the same: using them hurts people. You can't nuance that.
If that's genuinely how you meant it, then I can't really say you didn't. However, I'd caution against using words that can be taken more than one way, unless you explain it. I'd offer that that's why some words, like the two mentioned above, are generally left out of most communications.
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i'm sorry about the assumption regarding Sen. Byrd. too many assholes on this site have attacked him in ways i cannot even repeat. alot of things said on this site make me quite furious, but never a person's right to say it. i appreciate you reading my posts, but to assume that i treat everyone the same is somewhat unfair. i treat people how they treat me ususally. Conservatoons and Kajm and a few others get it a little harder due to their extreme comments. if the word retarded offends you, i apologize.
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Apology accepted.
Until now, I hesitated telling you that I am the parent of an multiply disabled adult child. He just turned 29 and when he was born, he was called "profoundly retarded". That was a long time ago, but that word, like so many ugly words, has found new life in cyberspace.
Take care...
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I'm just curious: that pose in the pic looks familiar. I keep thinking Mark Twain, or someone similar. And I sometimes wonder if he doesn't deliberately pose in imitation of those other people.
Except where Il Duce is concerned. Reincarnation?
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Could be. Michelle is imitating Jackie O in wardrobe.
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no one has survived that game.
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yes, to some, sadly.
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the ballots don't make the results, the counters make the results
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Well put. Let's all chip in to a fund to buy him a large piece of cheese to go with it.
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No need. He'll just bill you.
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Or my great-grandkids...heck how about both
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thanks. simple & quick but I like it too.
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Isn't he blaming Bush again for the worsening economy?
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Hey, that never gets old.
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I blame Bush for him being in office.
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I can't argue with you there.
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