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Published: 2009-05-28 03:04:06 +0000 UTC; Views: 9713; Favourites: 41; Downloads: 2277
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Description Well this came about because I was just screwing around with Photoshop and, due to my Ottoman Empire AAR, was working with flags.

So I decided to create a flag that would be a possible and realistic option for an Ottoman Empire that had held onto most of its territory through the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries and, much like Imperial Russia, had failed to modernize or liberalize its government.

And this isn't related to my Alternate History scenario from before, just in case there are any questions.

Thus while Turkish soldiers are fighting in the bloody conflicts of The Great War revolutionaries take to the streets in Istanbul late in 1917 protesting the war, the lack of food, and every other grievance they have with the government.

Sultan Mehmed V flees the city when it becomes obvious it is no longer safe for him there. Workers take up arms in every city as the troubles spreads, plunging the empire into a dangerous revolution.
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Comments: 34

Soviet-Sultana [2017-11-15 17:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Perfect. Just perfect 🖤

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TeslaTitanicX [2017-08-13 02:04:44 +0000 UTC]

You devil! Symbolizing Crescent as a sickle makes you more stupid!

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moenchii [2017-01-15 21:58:58 +0000 UTC]

I saw this today on Instagram and it said that the bible hates Islam and Communism. xD

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TeslaTitanicX In reply to moenchii [2017-08-13 02:05:24 +0000 UTC]

NOPE

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TeslaTitanicX In reply to moenchii [2017-08-13 02:04:18 +0000 UTC]

Not funny you KURWA KRAUT!

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moenchii In reply to TeslaTitanicX [2017-08-13 10:26:46 +0000 UTC]

Excuse me sir, can I help you?

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tynergy [2012-12-22 20:25:47 +0000 UTC]

you cant edit a TUrkish flag as you wish.. Turkish flag didnt created by someone randomly.. it appeared on floor during our great war.

taht day moon was crescent and had a start next to it and it was reflecting from the blood pool on the ground.. there was so much blood everywhere. so you cant modify our flag like that its disrespectfull for our culture

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TheMadBananaDoctor In reply to tynergy [2016-04-24 12:08:38 +0000 UTC]

You have to realize there is something called "Alternate History", and most of the time the person specifically chooses that country because they love them. This also isn't supposed to be taken seriously

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DaemonofDecay In reply to tynergy [2012-12-24 20:08:09 +0000 UTC]

I respect Turkey and the flag, but this is not a sign of disrespect but simply a thought about what would Turkey's flag have looked like if it had been taken over by a Soviet government. It's not serious nor political in the least.

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Oromarth123 [2012-10-04 22:00:07 +0000 UTC]

A rather "late" word of caution, my friend:

Turkish people don't like communism. It's mainly due to the reason that we're a largely conservative folk; people used to die daily in the late 80's because of the anarchist in-fighting between communist and conservationist sympathysants.

An unfortunate err on our fact is, that most communist sympathysants of today's Turkey are usually teenagers who have almost-zero understanding of the concepts of economy and politics. They are all romantic idealist wannabees that try to shove their ideals down people's throats. As you can understand, that puts people off the edge when it comes to even talking to them. And almost every single one of them would stop supporting communism the day the step on the floor of universities; basically they are hypocrites due to their small level of understanding and illiteracy.

Anyways; it is a rather interesting concept. The flag does look somewhat ironic though, with the crescent being the symbol of islamic conservatism and the hammer - lets just say they are regarded as completely opposite symbols.

However, you have my fav!

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DaemonofDecay In reply to Oromarth123 [2012-12-24 20:09:30 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I understand the conflict, but then, this isn't meant to promote communism or as a sign of disrespect towards Turkey. Yet people will get upset over such things regardless.

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Oromarth123 In reply to DaemonofDecay [2012-12-24 21:12:47 +0000 UTC]

My thoughts exactly, old sport. ^_^

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Kermit1654 [2012-06-16 17:07:19 +0000 UTC]

ottaman failed to modernize because ottoman didn't exploit anywhere and anybody

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DaemonofDecay In reply to Kermit1654 [2012-12-24 20:11:02 +0000 UTC]

One could argue that the reason they failed to modernize was because of their losses in Europe and elsewhere and the need to maintain a strong central authority figure - the Sultan and Caliph - to hold together an Empire of Turks, Arabs, Kurds, Greeks, etc. etc. etc. Modernization is not easy when you are trying to hold onto absolute power.

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JaguarsSoul [2012-03-17 00:23:52 +0000 UTC]

Urgh... communism...
No... just no...
That flag is so gorgeous. It's sad to see it with a hammer.

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DaemonofDecay In reply to JaguarsSoul [2012-12-24 20:11:42 +0000 UTC]

I quite like the Turkish flag - although the Northern Cyprus one is more pleasing to my eyes, honestly.

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JaguarsSoul In reply to DaemonofDecay [2012-12-24 20:47:28 +0000 UTC]

That's cool ^^

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temptationmotif [2010-09-01 12:02:42 +0000 UTC]

So I decided to create a flag that would be a possible and realistic option for an Ottoman Empire that had held onto most of its territory through the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries and, much like Imperial Russia, had failed to modernize or liberalize its government.

ilim cehli izale edermis ahmakligi degil. ancak siz hem cahilliginize hem aptalliginiza hayran birakiyorsunuz!

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DaemonofDecay In reply to temptationmotif [2012-12-24 20:12:13 +0000 UTC]

Unfortunately I don't speak Turkish...

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ApathyCharacteR [2010-08-09 11:40:12 +0000 UTC]

abi adama ''hates communism'' demişsin de, neden kendi düşüncelerini türk milletine mal etmişsin anlamıyorum.neyse, komünist değilim fakat sempati duyuyorum.türkiyede de milyonlarca sempatizanı vardır.eski sovyetlere içten içe hayranlık duyuyorum şahsen. ha bide bu söylediklerimi ingilizceye çevir gözünü sevdiğim.ama adam yanlış etmiş orası ayrı.

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metude [2010-05-18 08:23:45 +0000 UTC]

Original image which you used in your art is not Ottoman Flag... You're using Turkish flag...

And many Turkish people hates communism...

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DaemonofDecay In reply to metude [2010-08-08 22:35:00 +0000 UTC]

The last incarnation of the Ottoman Empire's flag and the Republic of Turkey's flag are both very, very similar; only small differences between them. And I am fully aware that the Turks dislike communism: this was more an experiment for my alternate-history story and has absolutely nothing to do with the real world.

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ApathyCharacteR [2010-02-07 00:46:06 +0000 UTC]

senin gibiler yüzünden biz devrimciler yanlış anlaşılıyoruz.

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Kermit1654 In reply to ApathyCharacteR [2012-06-16 18:53:38 +0000 UTC]

he says "we are misunderstood because of you and who thinking like you we don't care hammer or russian

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DaemonofDecay In reply to ApathyCharacteR [2010-08-08 22:36:04 +0000 UTC]

Again, I don't speak Turkish (unfortunately). Heck, I can barely manage to speak English properly.

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atidelphi [2009-08-29 05:00:03 +0000 UTC]

Beynini ziqm, dünyada komünizm mi kaldı.

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DaemonofDecay In reply to atidelphi [2009-12-02 06:37:59 +0000 UTC]

Sorry mate, I don't speak Turkish.

Although I do spot a "communism" in there.

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uberjoe19 [2009-05-28 03:12:28 +0000 UTC]

Interesting concept.

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DaemonofDecay In reply to uberjoe19 [2009-05-28 05:19:22 +0000 UTC]

Well I always thought that the crescent and sickle would be a good swap in a flag.

And thanks!

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uberjoe19 In reply to DaemonofDecay [2009-05-28 05:20:45 +0000 UTC]

No problem, my friend. You been in a bit of a creative block lately?

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DaemonofDecay In reply to uberjoe19 [2009-05-28 05:22:04 +0000 UTC]

Meh. The last few weeks have seen me deal with finals, moving out of my apartment, and then being sick.

I want to do another Alternate History map, but I have a couple of things I need to catch up on first.

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uberjoe19 In reply to DaemonofDecay [2009-05-28 05:25:05 +0000 UTC]

Sounds like you've been having fun. Thanks to the windstorm and ice storm we had this school year here in Kentucky, I get out for the summer on the 3rd of June.

Here's a link to the ice storm article on Wikipedia.
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DaemonofDecay In reply to uberjoe19 [2009-05-31 06:30:29 +0000 UTC]

Ouch.

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uberjoe19 In reply to DaemonofDecay [2009-05-31 06:53:09 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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