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Published: 2009-06-18 02:50:43 +0000 UTC; Views: 339; Favourites: 0; Downloads: 11
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Description PROBLEM: No tabbies in Apo

The folks most helpful in finding the solution (at least the ones that I can remember now that I'm updating this screenshot pic about two weeks after this all happened! LOL! Sorry if you helped and I forgot to mention you!):



Ok... here's a screenshot of my Apo 2.08 3D Hack (the way it was with the problem) with the Editor window open. There's no tabbies at all here on my version, even though I saw other people had them including my friend *wolfepaw who tried in vain with me to figure out Apo's unspoken complaint. I figured, "We have the same darn version so why don't I have tabs too?"

You can also see where my first three variations were hidden under the preview part of the Editor screen. I could scroll up there to them but I couldn't ever **SEE** them. I just had to scroll all the way up (hold down the up arrow until I knew it had plenty of time to get to the top) and then count how many times I hit the down arrow key to know where I was. What's up with that?

Well.... thanks to a great little gal I met in #Aposhack the problem is now worked out! =FarDareisMai told me that since I was using Vista that it was most likely a problem with my dpi; and sure enough that's what it was! Vista has a default value of 96 dpi; but I wanted a bigger font for ever-growing-older eyes. So I changed it to 120 dpi a while back and apparently forgot that I had changed it. (I really didn't realize it would make a difference to Apo anyway!) However this confuses Apo and won't allow it to display all of it's information in the editor screen or in the post-rendering screen. (I could also have the post-render screen come up but the "Save" button wasn't showing for me to be able to make changes! arg!) So changing the dpi to 96 fixed all the above problems at the same time! COOL!!!! I love it when all my problems are fixed with one simple change!!! Too bad **all** of life isn't like that!

Later I also had *beeper52 tell me the same cure! I already had it fixed but I definitely appreciate him taking the time to help me! Thanks beeper!!!! You're a keeper!!



Edit: 09Jul01
I had originally uploaded this to let *wolfepaw see my problem up close and personal. I started to delete it when Beeper52 told me later that he had found it and tried to help. Instead I figured it might be a good source for someone who's having Apo problems like I had. So if this is your problem and you're using Vista then try changing the dpi. If you don't know how to do that then just go to your desktop and right click. Then choose "Personalize" and a screen will pop up. Choose "Adjust Font Size (dpi)" and then "Default - 96 dpi". Save your settings and you're good to go (as long as this was actually your problem to begin with)!!! If this doesn't fix your problem then I would suggest trying the forums or ask around in #Aposhack .

Hope this helps!!!
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Comments: 12

beeper52 [2009-07-01 13:19:20 +0000 UTC]

You may try playing with the screen resolution.
Not sure if that will help but it's the only
thing that comes to mind. Have the same version
as you and don't have any problems.

A belated 'thanks' for adding the Pictonary
to your tut's. (Been spending alot of time
working on some animations, trying to learn
a few things in Photoshop 7 and contending
with a new computer.) Hope you have some fun
with it.

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Debi62 In reply to beeper52 [2009-07-02 01:12:36 +0000 UTC]

Oh thanks!!! yes I already fixed that problem! Indeed it was the dpi!!! Vista uses a default of 120 dpi but Apo needs a 96 dpi to function properly. Go figure! It got confused when it saw the 120 and refused to show me everything I needed to see! Silly program! It's all better now though! I found out how to fix it from =FarDareisMai when I went into #Aposhack that night! I guess I really need to delete that deviation or... better yet... I might just keep it around and put a link to it in my DA ID section for folks with the same problem! I've been trying to turn my ID into a help/link site for folks that are needing to find answers, especially noobs like me!!! LOL! It's starting to grow though now and I might soon have to go to journal entries instead!

Thanks for the Pictionary pack too! I'm sure I definitely *will* have some fun with it! I'm kind of like you right now though. I've got a lot of irons in the fire! I'm learning so many new things (or trying to)! Not only am I new to DA but I'm also new to Apo, GIMPshop, Terragen2, CSS and all that goes with them! So I'm like a kid in a candyshop playing with all my new toys!!! Maybe I should have said toystore though! LOL!

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beeper52 In reply to Debi62 [2009-07-02 12:34:24 +0000 UTC]

Good to hear your problem is fixed. Don't
you jusr love Vista! With Windows 7 to be
released soon I wonder how long Vista will
be supportrd by Microsoft. Guess that will
cause a whole new set of problems to be worked
out.

How is Terragen2? Had the original Terragen
on the old pc but deleted it for the space
on the hard drive. Downloaded Chaos Pro
yesterday and played with the animations some.
It's ok but if the resolution is to big then you
get a funky result. That's something they need to
work on. Think the next program will have to be
Ultra Fractal. Seen some really nice fractals
done with it. I've seen many fractal programs but
not familiar with CSS. Or would that be an Adobe
doo-dah?

Candy...Toys... both are great and alot of fun!
Have fun!!

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Debi62 In reply to beeper52 [2009-07-03 01:42:07 +0000 UTC]

Actually I *do* love Vista... or at least *like* it. I love my sidebar thingies!!! I don't think it's Vista that caused the problems for me though. I think it's a quirk of Apo. I had somebody tell me recently about Win 7 coming out next year. She said they will probably offer a free upgrade if you have Vista but I'm waiting to make sure. I don't want to have to go back to Vista from Win 7 if they charge for it. Downgrading Windows can cause problems. arg. I will change to Win 7 sooner or later though. I'll have to when I get a new puter. That won't be for a while though, hopefully, as I just got this one in November.

I'm still in the process of learning T2. I never had the original. I just recently learned about T2 from somebody here on DA... probably not more than 3 weeks ago I think. is the one that told me about it. I also know that is using it too now. He's learning it but he's better than I am at it at this point. I've not spent that much time with it though really... a few days so far and that's it. I've not been putting too much into that one because I just have the trial version that's free. That version only lets you render at I believe 800x600. I've been so busy jumping back and forth between the new things I'm learning that I've not done much with it really. I've not rendered anything. Actually I never even completed the first thing I was working on. I got frustrated with it. It's kind of a pain to figure out at times. I messed something up and lost some changes I'd made. Not even the undo would bring them back. I don't know what happened but I got frustrated over it and gave up. I've not gone back to it since then because I've got so much other stuff to keep me busy! LOL! I imagine if you already know the original then T2 should be a snap for you though.

CSS is not fractal. It's programming code. Cascading Style Sheets. It's the language of the new journal skins. I'm trying to learn so that I can make my own skins. I'm an animule of many different colors! I'm learning many new things at one time!

And I don't "doo-dah"! I'm a nice girl!

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beeper52 In reply to Debi62 [2009-07-06 17:27:39 +0000 UTC]

Vista, from what I have discovered so far, has it's own
little quirk's. Gotten use to several of them. Really
use to navigating around in Windows without any problem.

Spent all morning trying to get the latest version of
flam3 to work on the new pc. (Haven't had any problems
with the old pc.) Not sure if it's Vista, the flam3 program
or me being the problem. Looks as though it's time to do
some research. That or take the time to write my own script.

Glad to hear that you're not one of those "doo-dah" girls!
Nowadays it would be asking alot to keep up with a "do-dah"
girl. sigh...

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Debi62 In reply to beeper52 [2009-07-09 09:37:34 +0000 UTC]

LOL! Exactly what does it take to keep up with a doodah girl? LOL! On second thought, I'm not sure I really want to know the answer to that question!


I've heard of flam3 but I've not really researched it yet, much less downloaded it. It's open source too though, right? Like Apo? If you find it has something to do with Vista, please let me know. If I do try it out then it will probably do to me whatever it's doing to you. arg.

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beeper52 In reply to Debi62 [2009-07-09 12:11:20 +0000 UTC]

Flam3 and Flam4 are programs that will
take a minimum of two APO flame files, morph's them,
and then creates an output
jpg files to be put together
for a final amimation video.
It's a nice change in doing
things but the thing to keep
in mind is that it does take
awhile to render everything.
- i.e. For a 5 flame list
and 1,000 jpg's (200 for
each flame) took abut
35 hours on the old pc.

They are open source and are
free. The flam3 works well
with the Windows XP while
Flam4 is suppose to work
with Windows Vista. The
flam4 has given me a few
problems though. Have the
program downloaded and
everything comes up fine.
When I try to run the
program it's asking for
the encoder. So, I need
to find the right codec's
for it to run correctly.
When I find them I'll let
you know. So far...AAARRRGGGG!

Been so long that I've
forgotten what a 'doo-dah'
girl even looks like. Just
as well since the wife
would recognize the look
and swat me on the back
of the head. Just a
thought... If a 'doo-dah'
girl and a 'doo-dah' guy
married and had offspring,
would the children be
'doo-duh's?

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Debi62 In reply to beeper52 [2009-07-09 13:45:31 +0000 UTC]



Hilarious!!!!! I can just see the dumb look on those kids faces!! Instead of Da-da their first words would be Duh-duh!

Yeah I'd not blame your wife a bit for smacking you on the back of the head if you looked at a doo-dah!!

Could "doo-duhs" also be what really stupid camptown ladies sing? LOL!
~Dumb camptown ladies sing this song... doo-duh! doo-duh!~

I'll have to go get the flam4 sooner or later. I've got so many new toys right now that I'm trying to learn that I think I'd better wait until I get a better grip on what I've already got! LOL! It sounds quite interesting though! But..... 35 hours!!!!!!

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beeper52 In reply to Debi62 [2009-07-09 18:29:33 +0000 UTC]

As that redneck comedian would say, "Now that's funny! I don't care
what anybody says." LMAO! Duh-duh's and doo-duh's! Thanks for giving
me a big chuckle this afternoon! I needed that.

That 35 hours was the total time for rendering. I spread that out
over several days. Divide it into several parts and let it run
at night. It's not so bad that way. Another nice result I've
gotten is using a rotational script that writes the output to a
folder. Nothing fancy but with an interesting fractal sometimes
the result can make a nice animation. And it takes less than an
hour for 200 jpg's. While that is running you can let it run in
the background and been doing something else.

Gotta run now. I hear the cookie monster. Need cookies. Have to
make cookies. Devour cookies. Repeat as often as necessay.

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Debi62 In reply to beeper52 [2009-07-10 04:54:20 +0000 UTC]

Hey turnabout's fair play! LOL! You made me laugh so hard the other night that I had to put my hand over my mouth to keep from waking up my neighbors!!! LOL!

I think the redneck you're talking about is Larry the Cable Guy. If not, it might be Jeff Foxworthy.... but I think it's Larry that says that. Here's some of his stuff:

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He gets pretty rude and crude at times but he's got some really funny stuff! LOL! I like Jeff Dunham too! He also has some bad words and stuff in his routines but he's still so funny! LOL! I especially like Achmed the Dead Terrorist!!!

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"Silence! I kill you!" I found a DA stamp with Achmed!!! I just need to finish putting in all my stamps!



I think the only animated script that I have so far is from ^cmptrwhz . At least I can't remember another one off hand. Is the one you're talking about on DA?


Cookies!!! Save me some! LOL! Oreos..... NutterButter... chocolate chip.... YUM!!

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beeper52 In reply to Debi62 [2009-07-10 14:32:54 +0000 UTC]

I hope you weren't drinking
anything the other night!

You're right, it was Larry
The Cable Guy. He is funny
but as you mentioned is
lewed, crude and socially
unacceptable. Jeff
Foxworthy is funnier and
doesn't have to be as crude. What can you say
about Achmed? ...Boom!
Gotta love the guy. I have
to watch it every time
it comes on the Comedy
Channel. Let me know
when you have the Achmed
stamp is done. Gotta add
it to mine.

We were watching the
national news the other
night when they had a
segment on United Airlines
and how the baggage
handlers broke this guy's
guitar. Little did they
know that he had a band.
Being the creative person
that he is, he wrote a
song about and put it on
You Tube. Last count he
had 1.3 million hits.

[link]

Actually, it is a catchy
song and the band is really
good.

Being in Tennessee what else
could I make other than
Smoky Mountain Snowcaps?
Yes, they are very good.
Wife took half of them to
work with her this morning.
That leaves me with eight
cookies. Make that seven.
At the rate they are
disappearing I'm not sure
how long they are gonna
last!

This is the second time
I'm typing this. Went
back to the link with
the animation and when
I did that, everything
was lost. Just as well
since it was a short
tirade on 'robo calls'
and 'voice recogition'
when all you want to do
is talk to a real live
breathing person to
resolve the problem.
Maybe another day.

I'll post the rotational
animation I did yesterday
on You Tube later today
and note you with the link.

Time for another cookie and
go play in APO now. Later.

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Debi62 In reply to beeper52 [2009-07-12 06:17:30 +0000 UTC]

Nope! Luckily wasn't drinking anything! Might have shorted out my keyboard!!! LOL!

The Achmed stamp isn't mine! I just faved it and need to put it in my stampies section. You can see it in my faves in the stamp folder. I don't think I have that many in there yet so it shouldn't be hard to find. I'd go find it for you now but I really need to get my butt off here and get in the bed or I won't want to get up for church in the morning.... uhm... in a few hours! LOL!

United Breaks Guitars!!!!! Hilarious!!!! It's up to 2,241,601 views now!!!! I'll bet he gets a response **NOW**!!!! They're really good too! I'll bet that probably will do wonders for their careers! LOL! Just think! A busted guitar could make him a star!! LOL!!!

I hope the Smokey Mountain Snowcaps are the cookies!! LOL! Otherwise you might be trying to play God!! LOL! There **IS*** a limit to what we can create with Apo there dude!! LOL!

Oh darn! You mean I missed a robo calls and voice recognition tirade?!?!?!?!!? LOL! However shall I sleep tonight?!?!!?!!?

Yes do give me the link to the animation! Sounds cool!

Ok... it's after 1am and now I'm hungry! LOL! I guess it's a glass of water to cool the hunger pangs and then off to bed. Too late to be eating now! I'll **NEVER** get to sleep if I do! is always talking about food and making me hungry too! LOL! So does !!!! I guess you must be in cahoots with them! LOL!!

Later gator!!

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