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franzoise [2009-07-19 21:49:52 +0000 UTC]
Beats=beatniks=hippies?
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-20 14:58:24 +0000 UTC]
well this is North beach where the whole Beat scene started on the west coast
so the older Beats from the mid 1950 stayed Beat, guess yes some were the first Beatniks but the younger Beats by say 1964 1965 got psychedelicized and i guess could say they became the first wave of true hippies which beget Punk which beget the ever circling repeat of the whole scene till now you can buy your hippie/punk stuff at a Gap clothing store and be Hippie Punk Skater or whatever one wants to be temporarily until you get bored.
The end came, just no one really saw it. Now it is all fashion and fakery, well except some I have seen in Europe, who in way take it seriously and live the life for real.
But what it all means is anyones guess now.
The cosmic loop waits for the swirl to continue.
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-20 19:04:30 +0000 UTC]
The hippie/punk stuffs are not the same now...all is different...young people are different, mentalities are different...the world is different
I was a teenager in the Punk Period listening The Sex Pistols...The Clash.... during hours and hours (my poor parents..)
I miss that time ...I think it was less pretentious, less tortuous ....we were more free to make what we wanted to do, what we wanted to say....
But it's just my opinion....
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-20 23:10:07 +0000 UTC]
well it;s all melded together,
and more a fashion deal
funny about 2-3 years ago i saw Johnny Rotten in a
Staples, that's a office supply store in Venice down in LA.
I asked him how it was going, a nice guy, but was surprising to find him looking for file folders.
We had a short chat then my dad interrupted us as he wanted to get the hell out of the store. Rotten smiled.
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-22 03:49:46 +0000 UTC]
if I ever do
that may have been a one time deal
rather run into the guys from Calexico
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-22 18:32:03 +0000 UTC]
Never say never
maybe you'll see him next week in your supermarket
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-23 02:55:35 +0000 UTC]
I'll be looking out
maybe in the produce aisle
looking for lettuce
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-23 18:42:08 +0000 UTC]
that depends
maybe he is not vegetarian
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-23 22:09:58 +0000 UTC]
Johnny Rotten aka John Lydon being an old Brit punk
I suspect not a veggyman
bangers and mash and a pint or ten fer him i bet
he didn't have great teeth as recall
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-25 12:56:26 +0000 UTC]
I suppose he opened his bottles of beer with his teeth..
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-25 21:19:28 +0000 UTC]
chipped teeth and all
but the myth or reality that Brits have bead teeth
who knows
seen some bad ones down in the Bayou
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-27 22:44:42 +0000 UTC]
well it's an old tale
maybe post WW II
and it was bad not bead
killed that whole line of thought
exactly
Louisiana.... down not far from New Orleans
beautiful part of the country,
Chenier is great, used to listen to all that cajun & creole music from down there. not so much anymore
check this out
[link]
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-30 15:39:34 +0000 UTC]
oopsss sorry...my finger slided on the keyboard when I was writing my sentence
"I see that you made a book on the hurricane Katrina "
seems to be interesting .
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-07-31 01:48:03 +0000 UTC]
yes the book was one of those things that had to be done
love that oat of the country
(in my opinion) NYC, here in San Francisco and New Orleans
are the three cities worth the American daydream
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-31 18:21:51 +0000 UTC]
Agree with your opinion
I will begin with NYC
since a long time ago I dream of that
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-08-01 02:08:41 +0000 UTC]
NYC....NO...SF
but don't let the dream become a fantasy and never do it.
Isn't the Euro kicking Yankee dollar's ass?
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DocSonian In reply to franzoise [2009-08-02 01:35:46 +0000 UTC]
that is a big prob
fear of flying and you like to travel
that is tough
yes...for one Europa wins on the cash deal with the Yankees.
we deserve all this
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franzoise In reply to DocSonian [2009-08-02 14:40:33 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is tough but not really insurmountable
As one of my friends says " no problems...just solutions"
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MarieHeart [2009-07-16 05:48:31 +0000 UTC]
This is one of my FAVS from this series!
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DocSonian In reply to MarieHeart [2009-07-17 02:29:02 +0000 UTC]
yea.....a hot one.....if i shoot that church enough, a priest may come out
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