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EDIT: Threw in a motion blur to try to make it look a little nicer. No small task, considering it's a JPEG...
The original has been sta.sh'd
Posed in gMod--Map used gm_bigcity
You ever notice how much more extreme newer sonic games are, compared to the classics? Modern Sonic narrowly escapes near-death situations on a daily basis; as far as I can remember, Classic Sonic's done it...once or twice.
Anyway, so this is the idea I had in my head for what Classic Sonic's first escape-an-explosion-and-be-chased-by-robots-up-the-side-of-a-building experience would be like.
Honestly, one of my favorite things to do in gm_bigcity is to fill the streets with cars. There's something simple yet rewarding about it.
Sonic and all related characters (C) SEGA, Sonic Team
Garry's Mod, HL2 (C) Valve, Garry Newmann
If anybody wants to edit this and make it that much more awesome, I will allow you to do so. You must, however, credit me and let me see it when you're done.
Physics dictates that Classic Sonic would fall off the building after jumping like that. Of course, physics also dictates that you can't run up the side of a building anyway, so physics can go suck it.
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Boom. Two birds with one stone.
Three birds if you're a Sonic fan.
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I say we just wiped out the babylon rogues. ^,^
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Haha an excellent analogy!
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Classic Sonic: I can move on a Z-axis!
Modern: Enjoy it while you can.
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Classic: ...? *Falls off building*
Modern: Shoulda toldja, mini-me: never jump when wallrunning.
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Classic Sonic dies, then Modern Sonic dies.
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knuckles: *squeals with delight* Do you know what this means, Tails? With Sonic out of the way, they're gonna have no choice but to make a game out of their second-most-important character. Knuckles the Echidna will finally happen!
Tails: -.- Remind me: which one of us has been around since Sonic 2?
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Knuckles & Tails:
Tails: *facepalm*
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Shadow: People love me more. They should make a game about me now.
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Knuckles: Yeah, cuz we all know how well your first one did.
Shadow: Quiet, you! I am the ultimate lifeform!
Tails: *Double-facepalm*
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Silver: Um. Can I have a game?
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???: You know who really needs a REAL game?
(Rainbow Dash appears)
RD: Me!
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*both Sonics return from the grave*
Sonics: WHAT?!
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Rainbow: You're reign of boredom has gone on long enough! Let a real speedster takes the reins. I can fly!
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Tails: *Dry look at Rainbow. Spins tails and lifts off ground*
Modern Sonic: Shaddup, Tails. *to Rainbow* You really think you're fast enough to beat me in a race? Land, sea or air, there's no one faster than Sonic the Hedgehog. Not sure if you know this, Gay-bow hair, but I'm the fastest thing alive. I'll leave you in the dust any day of the week, any time of day.
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(Rainbow has already took off at her highest speed, did a Sonic Rainboom, and got back before he finished his rant)
RD: Did you say something, slowpoke?
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Sonic: *blinks twice, then just smirks* Oh, no you don't. Last time I met someone who came even close to matching my speed, he cheated by using Chaos Control.
Shadow: *big, sonadow fafic eyes* Sonikku! You remembered!
Sonic: Riiiiight. Anyway, I'm not gonna be cheated out of a fair race again. If you want to prove to me you're fast, you're gonna have to do it side-by-side with me--no headstarts, no cheating--just a fair race between a pair of speed addicts such as ourselves. Now, before we set anything up, can someone take care of Shadow? He's acting all...fanfic-y again.
Knuckles: I'm on it. *walks over and bops Shadow really hard on the head*
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Shadow: Bastard.
Tails: Okay. On your marks. Get set. GO!
RD: (performs exactly as before, and got back before Tails finished saying "Go".)
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Sonic: *waiting for her to get back. Leaned up against a building, rubbing his nose smugly* What did I say about head starts, huh? You didn't even give the kid a chance to say, "Go!" Good thing I expected as much from you and was able to get a start right when you did. What took ya so long to get back, streaky?
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Shadow: (swipes the Chaos Emerald Sonic used) Bastard.
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(Sonic didn't use Chaos Control. He ran fair 'n square. 
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I am not going into that debate.
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Fair enough. Though since a conversation about Rainbow Dash vs Sonic is always going to come to the debate of which one's faster, I suppose we have nothing more to say to each other.
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Other than, if you watch Screwattack's Death Battle, they both have stats for RD and Sonic.
Sonic can go, for sure, at Mach 1. Which means he reaches about 900 MPH.
RD can reach Mach 5. Which is going Hypersonic. Meaning she gets to almost 4000 MPH. With her Sonic Rainboom, not only does she reach Mach 10, but she breaks the light spectrum. She can hit High-hypersonic in 10 seconds flat.
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I'd have to contest that. Since it is a Sonic Rainboom rather than a Visual Rainboom, that still implies that it's just the sound barrier she's breaking--Mach 1. Sure, there's a burst of rainbow-colored aurora, but that's not due to her breaking the light barrier; that's just cuz she's a special pony.
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Actually if you see that mach cone forming around her, that means she had already broken the sound barrier.
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Drawn for looks, obviously. I imagine the animators saw it as the sound barrier resisting her breaking through--like she was stretching it before it snapped. This is supported by the fact that the first time she tried it in that episode, the "Mach cone" formed, but she wasn't able to break the Sound barrier, and it whipped her back toward Twilight's place.
Besides, you can't travel above the speed of sound without first breaking the sound barrier--a sonic boom. When Dash was in the "mach cone," there was no sonic boom to precede it--only the Sonic Rainboom after.
So, the animators didn't know the mach cone wouldn't appear before she broke the sound barrier. They drew it in knowing two things: 1) It was in some way related to a sonic boom. 2) It would look really, really cool.
'Smy thoughts on the matter, anyhow.
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The "camera" was keeping up with her, and a boom occurs behind the thing making it. Fluttershy heard the boom.
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Uh, no. Go rewatch the scene. The only boom that takes place is the Sonic Rainboom. She only broke one barrier, and in order to break the light barrier, you'd have to had broken the sound barrier first. That would be two booms--or more specifically a boom and a flash.
Rainbow dash experienced one boom. Sure, there was a flash of light when that happened, but in order to break both the sound and light barriers at the same time, you'd have to make up for a difference of 299792117.71 meters/second in much less than a nanosecond. Quite frankly, this is impossible, and you're wrong.
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From Rainbow's point of view there is no boom. From everyone's point of view there was a boom.
There is a guy who did do the calculations, and it is kind of possible. Then again, this is a magical land. Anything can happen. And being a land where science is not applied in the grand scheme RD can go as fast as she wants.
On the other hoof, Sonic is bound by science in His World, and can only reach realistic speeds, granted he's a hedgehog, but there are rules he must adhere to.
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Sorry. Having trouble seeing the argument here and just how it counters mine.
Besides, when's the last time Sonic let science get in the way of the stuff he wanted to do? Does science allow him to breathe in space? Does science allow him to achieve a super state when he collects all of the Chaos Emeralds? Does science allow a hedgehog--shaped like a man--to run at speeds nearing the speed of sound without suffering either the injuries or the friction associated with that? Dude's had one pair of shoes his whole life (unless you count the Classic design as another pair); if science applied in his world, he would have to change shoes so constantly, he may as well just run barefoot. Science does not apply in the Sonic the Hedgehog universe.
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He only breathed in space in Sonic X.
There is actually more science to Sonic than one might think. The trump cards/mcguffins don't count. His shoes have been listed as light-weight friction resistant shoes. Which means they won't burn while he's tearing up the track. Besides it's cooler to fly. The ultimate freedom.
Rainbow Dash flies.
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Sonic Unleashed. Intro. Sonic breathing in space is canon in the games too.
Whether or not flying is cooler is a matter of opinion and, as such, has no place in this debate.
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That was the upper Atmosphere, and the ships probably had atmospheric shells.
And flying being better could actually be a fact since you build less friction speeding through the air than while you're on land. If the two started a race Rainbow would have hit top speed sooner than Sonic.
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The ships had atmospheric shells? Hold on a second. You said the laws of science absolutely do apply in the Sonic the hedgehog universe, and you're using personal atmospheric shells--something that doesn't exist and is probably scientifically impossible--to support that argument? Wow.
And actually, the ships weren't in the Earth's upper atmosphere--only the middle atmosphere. In fact, we can see by the fact that Eggman's laser passed through two atmospheric boundaries--being the tropopause and stratopause--before hitting the Earth, that his ships are flying in the mesosphere.
That being said, they were still really high above the Earth, so they'd probably be in the higher mesosphere, closer to the mesopause. Temperatures up there are around -92.5°C (-134.5°F)(180.65K); that's almost 100°C less than the point where frostbite starts rearing its ugly head. At that temperature, Sonic would experience what's known as "Deep frostbite" very, very quickly (despite the fact there was a fire ignited directly behind him--something that's probably near-improbably at this altitude, but I'm not going to bother going into that.)
Now, the highest any human's ever been in our atmosphere sans the safety of a climate-controlled space shuttle was when Felix Baumgartner pulled off his record-(and sound barrier)-shattering daredevil jump. Even from that height, the air was extremely thin and cold, and Felix needed a special breathing apparatus and climate-controlled suit to survive. The atmosphere from stratopause to metopause only gets colder and thinner the higher you get.
Based on all these facts, the idea that science would support Sonic the hedgehog standing nude--sans his usual attire--on the bay of an orbiting space ship without any form of breathing apparatus or climate-controlled suit and surviving for longer than a few seconds is, to be frank, ludicrous.
Also, as far as flying being better than running on the grounds of friction resistance, didn't you yourself say Sonic's shoes were specially made to be low-friction things? If his shoes could actually reduce his friction to the point where the soles didn't simply disappear every time he ran, he would experience the same level of friction that Rainbow Dash would flying through the air.
Besides that, the idea of a simple pair of sneakers being able to reduce friction is also scientifically ridiculous. We see no evidence of Sonic's sneakers emitting a lubricant to reduce friction, and really, when running, friction=traction. If his shoes were to somehow scientifically reduce his friction, it would come at the cost of traction. Sonic wouldn't be able to get a grip on the ground, and he'd just wind up running in place--if he didn't slip and fall on his face first.
I re-iterate: science does not apply in the Sonic the Hedgehog universe, and he can break any physical laws that Rainbow Dash does.
Good day, sir!
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Atmospherics shells. Doctor Who. And everything in Doctor Who is probable. So that takes care of Sonic.
While yes, there is little to no friction to Sonic's feet, the difference in air friction can make the speed vary. Closer to the ground the air is a bit more dense, so air pushes on Sonic harder than on RD when she's in the air. Not to mention while she's up , gravity has less of an effect so less friction, she can gain speed faster.
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Doctor Who is science-fiction, and real science has no place in it.
Plus, entirely different universe. Not a fair argument.
Only by a slight degree, since she never flies higher than the troposphere. She can't possible get to point B and back to the finish line that long before Sonic does. If she were to win, it would be a photo finish at best.
I see you also seem to have ignored every other argument I've made that was fact. Just give up; you're not going to win this one.
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On the contrary. [link]
Technically she does. Whenever she deals with weather, she's in the stratosphere, because that's where weather happens.
And now you know why I have given Sonic up, because of arguments like this. This could go one forever, and as fun as it could be, I would get bored, so let's just say that they both are super fast. However, in a fight, I see Sonic getting his brain knocked in by a good buck to the face.
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Still, you can't just assume that the laws of one universe apply to another. You said yourself that Friendship is Magic and Sonic the Hedgehog both exist in different universes that play by entirely different rules. Maybe Dr. Who has personal atmosphere shells, but Sonic the Hedgehog, until it's mentioned in-game, does not.
Ya got me there, actually.
Hey, you started it. And really, most of my arguments were solid enough for you to be able to say, "Eh, you're right," at any time and end the debate. So, really, you kept it going as well. Of course, it takes two to tango, so I did as well.
I think I can agree to that conclusion...if Sonic didn't see the kick coming. Dude's got some wicked-fast reflexes, ya know.
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I'm stubborn. Sorry.
Yeah, but he must be really weak if he can hurt by simply touching a bad guy.
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Haha no worries.
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And he can't swim. Personally a video game character is pretty useless if they can't swim in water stages.
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Sure, he can't swim. But I've personally always had more fun running around under the water.
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For SLOW platforming for a character who is FAST. no thanks.
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True. It kind of worked in the older games, but now that we have AMAZING speed-rather-than-platforming-focused games like Sonic Unleashed, the slow underwater platforming sections (or any platforming sections, really. I'm looking at you, Colors and Generations.) really drag the speed down as they force the player to stop and figure out how to continue.
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Yeah, and the 2D to 3D thing was a neat idea, but it's done now. Having Sonic run in 2D during modern stages are redundant. And having a 2D section solely to have platforming is cheap. If Sega can't put together a proper 3D section, and they can, then don't do platforming.
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Hey, at least we agree on one thing!
And that's why I'll always say Unleashed is my favorite Sonic game. Ignoring the night stages, they absolutely nailed the speed in the daytime stages, and unlike Colors and Generations, they don't force you to stop, slow down and do some 2D platforming.
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I haven't played the 360 version of Unleashed, and I think the Werehog was a good idea, if it was worked on a bit more, and it did succeed in 3D platforming, but the brawling should be something Knuckles does. Colors was just a 2D Sonic games with fancy set pieces. Generations does have SOME 3D platforming, and Planet wisp, in my opinion is mocking Sonic Colors because it's mainly 2D platforming.
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