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Description This is the classic small theropod from North America, but it turns out that Ornitholestes has been harder to pin down than researchers originally thought. It appears to be more closely related to birds than the allosaur-grade theropod that some thought. While it's not as close to Paraves as say oviraptosaurs, there are a couple features that seem to be "proto-deinonychosaur" in general, including the narrowing and somewhat stiffened distal tail, and a sort of incipient "killer claw" on the second toe. I wish more was known of the wrist and pectoral girdle, but for now they are speculations based on where Ornitholestes comes out in phylogenetic studies. Even at this stage of bird evolution Ornitholestes was almost certainly covered in a fur-like feather covering, and quite possibly sported proto-wings on its hands and tail.


Edit 2016: I was treated to some high resolution images, some from angles not previously available in print. It turns out that the pelvis did not have a vertical pubis, and the hind legs were more robust than my earlier skeletal.

I posted this right away (I don't want new art to be done without it), but my Patreon supporters www.patreon.com/skeletaldrawin… a behind the scenes look that showed what has changed between the original version in 2007, the 2013 revision, and the current update.
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DrScottHartman In reply to ??? [2016-12-16 16:00:07 +0000 UTC]

Depending on the phylogenetic analysis, yes.

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DinoBrian47 In reply to DrScottHartman [2016-12-17 15:34:31 +0000 UTC]

Alright, then. I guess it's nice to see that "Jurassic raptors" really did exist.

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Corallianassa In reply to DinoBrian47 [2016-12-18 13:37:12 +0000 UTC]

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DinoBrian47 In reply to Corallianassa [2016-12-22 12:14:26 +0000 UTC]

Well, I didn't mean actual deinonychosaurs, just their closest relatives.

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Corallianassa In reply to DinoBrian47 [2016-12-22 19:02:25 +0000 UTC]

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DinoBrian47 In reply to Corallianassa [2017-02-16 12:31:16 +0000 UTC]

Why Marshosaurus?

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Corallianassa In reply to DinoBrian47 [2017-02-17 19:25:09 +0000 UTC]

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DinoBrian47 In reply to Corallianassa [2017-02-19 10:00:03 +0000 UTC]

The way I see it, maybe they should have utilized Marshosaurus to stand in for the Velociraptors rather than just beef up old Velo to the size of a Deinonychus.

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DrScottHartman In reply to DinoBrian47 [2016-12-17 20:41:43 +0000 UTC]

Raptors don't exist until the Cenozoic. Or did you mean deinonychosaurs?

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Liopurodon4x In reply to DrScottHartman [2021-11-29 03:22:45 +0000 UTC]

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DinoBrian47 In reply to DrScottHartman [2016-12-22 12:13:43 +0000 UTC]

I actually meant deinonychosaurs and their closest relatives, not the birds of prey.

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DrScottHartman In reply to DinoBrian47 [2016-12-28 21:42:19 +0000 UTC]

I knew that's what you meant, but it's really preferable to use the proper terms, rather than one that is more correctly used for another group of dinosaurs.

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DinoBrian47 In reply to DrScottHartman [2016-12-28 22:25:09 +0000 UTC]

Would coelurosaurians be okay?

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TheDubstepAddict [2016-10-25 20:49:31 +0000 UTC]

O fak I messed up

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zackilamiahavok [2016-08-14 20:35:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your beautiful skeletals!  Just finished a quick sketch of Ornitholestes hermanni based on your skeletal reconstruction (feather pattern from the theory that it may fit into the Microraptor clade).  It's here , if you're interested in checking it out!

I look forward to being continuously inspired by your work!

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Gojira5000 [2016-06-08 20:09:40 +0000 UTC]

Looking between Ornitholestes and Jiangchangosaurus (and other basal therizinosaurs) they seem to have quite a few similarities; maybe Ornitholestes is a very basal therizinosaur?

Probably not, but it's interesting to hypothesize, nonetheless.

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Mirroraptor In reply to Gojira5000 [2016-07-13 08:13:18 +0000 UTC]

Maybe or not;in many Tree Ornitholestes was on the backbone of Maniraptoriformes and far fron Therizino.We still don't know what has happend between the backbone Miniraptoriformes and Fukuivenator-specialized carpel and finger,maybe mean that there is a climbing animal.(My English was pool and maybe made a lot of mistakes,I'm sorry about it.)

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XStreamChaosOfficial [2016-06-08 03:00:24 +0000 UTC]

Cool!

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Pyroraptor42 [2016-06-06 00:13:48 +0000 UTC]

I miss its "horn", but I like how now is a "proto-deinonychosaur"

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TheropodHunter [2016-06-05 23:19:01 +0000 UTC]

This was one of my favourites as a kid. 

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DrScottHartman In reply to TheropodHunter [2016-06-05 23:36:08 +0000 UTC]

My only memories of Ornitholestes as a kid are that it was the dinosaur always chasing Archaeopteryx in paintings.

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CommonHouseGecko In reply to DrScottHartman [2017-03-13 02:37:35 +0000 UTC]

"My only memories of Ornitholestes as a kid are that it was the dinosaur always chasing Archaeopteryx in paintings"
I remember this cliche'. In my young mind Ornitholestes was the jurassic equivalent of Willy E. Coyote (and given its ecological niche that was not so far from true).

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TheropodHunter In reply to DrScottHartman [2016-06-06 13:51:20 +0000 UTC]

"Walking With Dinosaurs" introduced me to Ornitholestes. Good show, but has some flaws. 

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DrScottHartman In reply to TheropodHunter [2016-06-06 16:53:32 +0000 UTC]

Anatomically it has a _lot_ of flaws, but it was still one of the first to at least try and treat dinosaurs like real animals.

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TheropodHunter In reply to DrScottHartman [2016-06-06 21:56:51 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes, good point. 

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Tomozaurus [2016-06-05 21:51:05 +0000 UTC]

Gee this thing is kind of weirdly convergent on nosasaurids.

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DrScottHartman In reply to Tomozaurus [2016-06-05 23:35:29 +0000 UTC]

You're right. That's sort of odd, but very cool.

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Patchi1995 [2016-06-05 21:03:36 +0000 UTC]

I knew that Ornitholestes was a small Morrison tyrannosaur, but unlike tyrannosaurs, Ornitholestes was a closer base of the paraves. Great one!

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Archanubis [2015-05-30 09:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Definitely different from the animal depicted in Walking with Dinosaurs .  I knew that the nasal horn had been discredited, but I hadn't realized that it had a proto-sickle claw akin to the raptors and troodons.

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thediremoose [2015-05-03 03:20:36 +0000 UTC]

The Tyrrell's Ornitholestes casts are actually mounted with hyperextended second toes. With Dromaeosaurus mounted in the gallery nearby, the resemblance is striking.

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DrScottHartman In reply to thediremoose [2015-05-04 14:58:58 +0000 UTC]

I can imagine. I found some photos of that mount - I like it!

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PedroSalas [2014-05-01 19:23:54 +0000 UTC]

My version

pedrosalas.deviantart.com/art/…

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Ornitholestes1 [2013-03-01 00:11:49 +0000 UTC]

Handsome devil, aren't I?

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DrScottHartman In reply to Ornitholestes1 [2013-03-01 00:21:35 +0000 UTC]

Want to know a vaguely creepy coincidence? The updated image file I uploaded was titled Ornitholestes[1].jpg.

Cue the Twilight Zone music

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Ornitholestes1 In reply to DrScottHartman [2013-03-02 01:25:33 +0000 UTC]

Doo de doo doo doo dee doo doo...There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to....Eh, never mind.

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ZEGH8578 [2013-02-28 18:47:35 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know it has such a confirmed "raptor claw", that is indeed quite intriguing. Is it lifted to the maximum in this restoration? As in - lift it any more, and it will break or cause pain? If the claw has grown this much by this species, it is sign that it has been an adapted feature for quite some time. How sure are we still about Archaeopteryx lifted toe? Archie's claw isn't even that much bigger than the other, which makes me curious wether the claw grows large first, or the toe flexibility, evolutionary speaking.

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DrScottHartman In reply to ZEGH8578 [2013-02-28 19:00:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm really sure about Archaeopteryx, seeing as how I've personally spent hours examining the specimen in question (the Thermopolis Specimen). I'm only working from photographs and measurements on Ornitholestes, so I'm not as sure about the range of motion, but I suspect it can extend at least a bit more (though perhaps not to where it would be comfortable to carry around).

It's always possible that Archaeopteryx had secondarily reduced the size of the claw. Or perhaps whatever initial function they had (e.g. prey acquisition) soon led to a wide range of morphs as the toe was adapted to different lifestyles. As I think I mentioned in response to someone else, even some oviraptorids seem to show evidence of the toe proportions (shortened digit 2 with subequal 3 & 4), despite lacking the ability to hyperextend the second toe (and not having a scythe claw).

Another thing people may not be giving enough consideration to is how often theropods manipulated objects with their feet. As the hands became more incorporated into the wing (or reduced in some large theropods) pedal manipulation may have become more common...it certainly works for living theropods.

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Dinopithecus In reply to DrScottHartman [2016-06-06 01:11:49 +0000 UTC]

I know is comment is >3 years old, but regarding the foot manipulation part, does this include even theropods that lacked an opposable hallux (seems to be implied by your mention of large theropods with reduced hands)? Could their halluces still facilitate gripping even if not opposable?

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ZEGH8578 In reply to DrScottHartman [2013-02-28 19:14:05 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, I had not thought much about foot-manipulation - then again, I feel most people have ignored theropod hands in general, leaving them hanging there like useless appendages, while evidence suggest otherwise - such as simply: Large hands. Even comparatively small hands, such as carnosaurid hands are still large, and clearly had to be used for something. In yet another un-scanned drawing of a megalosaurid, I wanted to add a subtle attention to that, by showing it curling its fingers inwards - instead of just leaving them hanging - so to suggest that it is moving and curling and stretching its fingers while walking, kindov like a bored person tapping fingers against the desk
Lately I've also begun to imagine Tyrannosaurus mini-hands (which are remarkably well developed despite size) to be for communicative flapping I'm probably far from the only one with that suspicion, I'm sure!

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dinosaurusbrazil [2012-03-26 00:00:25 +0000 UTC]

This dinosaur could be a raptor?

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VovinaArt In reply to dinosaurusbrazil [2012-06-11 03:22:22 +0000 UTC]

It is an ancestor of the dromeosaurs and a member of the Maniraptora clade, but not a raptor in and of itself.

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dinosaurusbrazil In reply to VovinaArt [2012-06-20 23:17:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the information.

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DrScottHartman In reply to dinosaurusbrazil [2012-03-26 01:48:15 +0000 UTC]

No, it's not a dromaeosaur, but it may hint that it's closer to the base of paraves than previously thought. Alternatively, the hyper-extended second toe might be distributed more widely than we thought.

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amorousdino [2012-01-26 05:45:22 +0000 UTC]

I read somewhere that this little guy might have been a very primitive tyrannosauroid. Any truth to that?

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DrScottHartman In reply to amorousdino [2012-01-27 16:02:29 +0000 UTC]

It's true that someone proposed it I think Ornitholestes belongs further up the coelurosaur family tree than that, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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TyrannosaurusPrime [2011-04-23 15:37:46 +0000 UTC]

Is it me or did it had a "raptor" toe?

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DrScottHartman In reply to TyrannosaurusPrime [2011-04-23 18:33:32 +0000 UTC]

It's not just you.

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TyrannosaurusPrime In reply to DrScottHartman [2011-04-23 23:46:22 +0000 UTC]

Ok then.

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cryptidsaurian [2010-11-20 00:08:25 +0000 UTC]

didnt it have a small horn on the nose?

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DrScottHartman In reply to cryptidsaurian [2010-11-20 19:39:25 +0000 UTC]

Definitely not. The idea stemmed from a displaced nasal, but further preparation of the specimen has shown that there was no nose horn on Ornitholestes.

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