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IsoGraph60XYZ [2013-04-17 03:21:47 +0000 UTC]

Poignant-Is this based on info as to how the wreck settled then? Shipwrecks've always fascinated me-for the 'frozen-in-time'/history capsule of them i think.They serve as a physical reminder of Battles long gone to History & most peoples memory's [unfortunetly].Land battles ruins are Taken away for scrap-recycle,and terrain is rebuilt& farmed again-you have to sleuth about on google earth [Yeah GE!] to see faded trench lines /over grown fortifications.But the presence of one w/ divers or[today-for the deep ones] ROVs & pictures-not mention amazing 3D sonar views-add's an emotional impact more so than a dock side museum or a A/c or AFV in same.
I keep hoping some of 'classic' movies [when i was akid-opps,showim my age] will get re-makes w/new CGI efffects as were used in master & Commander and such.So many stories to be told.

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zanetwinsfromsodor In reply to IsoGraph60XYZ [2021-10-31 12:34:56 +0000 UTC]

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diversdream [2011-05-13 09:18:33 +0000 UTC]

ORP Grom (H 71)

Type Destroyer
Class Grom
Pennant H 71
Built by JS White & Co (Cowes UK)
Laid down 17 Jul 1935
Launched 20 Jul 1936
Commissioned 11 May 1937
Sunk 4 May 1940

History
Grom means thunder in Polish

During the Norwegian campaign, ORP Grom (Komandor Podporucznik Aleksander Hulewicz) was sunk in the Rombaken Fjord near Narvik by a Luftwaffe He111 (Lt Korthals Aircrew) belonging to KG100.
There were 59 killed and 30 wounded amongst the 154 survivors who were rescued by HM Ships Aurora,Bedouin, Enterprise and Faulkner which included the Commanding officer Komandor Podporucznik Aleksander Hulewicz.

Before being lost she bombarded the German troops in the Narvik area and delivered stores to the British light cruiser HMS Enterprise.

Commanders

Kmdr Stanislaw Hryniewiecki, ORP
11 May 1937 - 4 Mar 1938

Kmdr Aleksander Hulewicz ORP
4 Mar 1938 - 4 May 1940

Noteable events involving Grom include:

1 Sep 1939

The Polish destroyers ORP Burza (Kapitan Marynarki Stanislaw Michal Nahorski ORP), ORP Grom (Kapitan Marynarcki Aleksander Hulewicz ORP) and ORP Blyskawica (Komandor Podporucznik Wlodzimierz Andrzey Kodrebski-Poraj ORP) were met in the North Sea by British aircraft and the British destroyers HMS Wallace (Lt Cmdr William Maurice Lloyd Astwood RN) and HMS Wanderer (Cmdr Reginald Francis Morice RN).
They were escorted to Leith.

6 Nov 1939
ORP Blyskawica (Porucznik Marynarki Tadeusz Gorazdowski ORP) and ORP Grom (Komandor Podporucznik Aleksander Hulewicz ORP) recieved orders to find and rescue downed British pilots in the Dogger Bank area.
The Polish ships were attacked by two German He-115 Seaplanes.
One of them dropped a torpedo aimed at the ORP Blyskawica.
The destroyer turned rapidly and avoided the threat.

21 Nov 1939
Around 2100 hours the British destroyers HMS Griffin (Lt Cmdr John Lee-Barber RN with Capt George Elvey Creasy MVO RN aboard), HMS Gipsy (Lt Cmdr Nigel John Crossley RN), HMS Keith (Cmdr Henry Thurston Wake Pawsey OBE RN), HMS Boadicea (Lt Cmdr George Bodley Kingdon RN) and the Polish destroyer ORP Grom (Komandor Podporucznik Aleksander Hulewicz ORP) were ordered to leave Harwich and establish a patrol in the North Sea.
Shortly before that, a German He 59 seaplane dropped two magnetic mines nearby.

HMS Gipsy hit one of these mines and is sunk.
Most of the survivors were picked up by HMS Griffin and HMS Keith.

4 Apr 1940
The Polish destroyers ORP Burza, ORP Grom and ORP Blyskawica reached their new homeport in Rosyth.
In the afternoon they leave the harbor with the British light cruisers HMS Arethusa,HMS Galatea and three British destroyers.
These ships were ordered to conduct a patrol in the North Sea and were later ordered to intercept German invasion groups later reported as heading for Norway.

9 Apr 1940
The Polish destroyers ORP Burza, ORP Grom and ORP Blyskawica were ordered to join the British destroyer HMS Tartar and provide escort for convoy HN-24 (31 merchants escaping from Norway to England,some of them were loaded with Norwegian gold).
The convoy reached Britain without any loses.

12 Apr 1940
The Polish destroyers ORP Burza, ORP Grom and ORP Blyskawica entered Rosyth for refueling.
Then they were sent to Scapa Flow.

19 Apr 1940
The Polish destroyers ORP Burza, ORP Grom and ORP Blyskawica leave Scapa Flow and head towards Narvik. During a storm ORP Burza is damaged by high waves and forced to return.

21 Apr 1940
The Polish destroyers ORP Blyskawica and ORP Grom entered the Vest Fjord,off Narvik in Norway.

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spell657 [2011-04-04 16:28:42 +0000 UTC]

ciekawa praca musze przyznac;]
jednak "Grom" został zbombardowany, więc raczej nie ma dziury w poszyciu dennym, jaka powstaje w przypadku np. uderzenia torpedy. I z tym leżeniem do góry dnem też średnio, bo nie sądze aby w skalistych fiordach Norwegii nadbudówki okrętu mogłby wbić się tak głęboko w dno.
Ulubione.

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dugazm In reply to spell657 [2011-04-06 12:51:03 +0000 UTC]

polecam poczytac kilka opracowan na temat ORP Grom jak i relacji nurkow.
Pracowalem 7 lat jako grafik w MAGAZYNIE NURKOWANIE i sporo materialow na temat wrakow mialem do wgladu....
Wraki okretu (2x grom)rysowalem na podstawie szkicow, zdjec i opisow osob nurkujacych tam. W dno on nie jest wbity lecz pod wplywem uderzenia o dno nadbudowka wraz z cala reszta zostaly zmiazdzone....

polecam kilka fotek
[link]
A tu dyskusja na temat wyrw w poszyciu....
[link]

Witam forumowiczów. Przyczyna zatonięcia Groma podawana od wielu lat w różnych publikacjach mówi o jednej bombie która zdarła 20-sto metrowy pas poszycia na prawej burcie, natomiast druga bomba miała trafić w drugi aparat torpedowy powodując eksplozję....



reasumujac, zalecam poszperanie w google..to nie zabija.

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spell657 In reply to dugazm [2011-04-06 16:01:11 +0000 UTC]

thx za linki ciekawych rzeczy mozna wyczytac...;]
googli to ja osobiscie nie lubie wole miec tekst na zwyklym normalnym standardowym papierze...
to co ja wiem o "Gromie" pochodzi z ksiazki "Flota spod bialo-czerwonej" J. Piwowonskiego, ilustorowana przez niezyjacego juz niestety, Adama Werke( niestety mam bardzo destrukcyjnego mlodszego brata)...
anyway, jesli sie wepchalem w parade to sorry.

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dugazm In reply to spell657 [2011-04-06 19:05:44 +0000 UTC]

spokojnie, nigdzie sie nie wepchales, a czasy takie ze wydania gazetowe nie maja mozliwosci komentowania, sprawdzania i udokumentowywania "na zywo" niektorych faktow.
Czasami na forach mozna sie wiele nauczyc..sam, pracujac jako ilustrator, czesto czytam fora dotyczace okretow, samoltow itp...pomaga i unika sie popelniania jakis razacych bledow..pozdrawiam.

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spell657 In reply to dugazm [2011-04-06 19:16:19 +0000 UTC]

heh po prostu...
wszelakie ciezkie moje hobby to wszelkie latajace/pelzajace/plywajace (zwlaszcza) siejace destrukcje zelastwo... wprawdzie ksiazek o tej tematyce mam omgbardzoduzowtf...
osobiscie uwazam ze sie na tym znam ale to obiektywna opinia nie jest i czasem sie wpycham gdzie mnie srednio trzeba... chociaz i tak sie interesuje glownie dzialaniami na pacyfiku

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