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Happy delayed valentine's day, folks!! <333

OMG, long artist's comments! Don't care, read

Take it slow, pepole. I know this is hard to deal with (well, for some of you XD) so please, please, please, read carefully.

Question/Answers time:

Q: Did you know this from the very first time?
A: Yes, yes we did. This is NOT something we just decided to come up with.

Q: Then why did you wait so long to reveal it?
A: We wanted to explore audience's reaction to their weird relationship, fortunately, a lot of them got it right. Even this part.

Q: Why did you decided to put them together?
A: Because they're Phienas' daughter and Ferb's son. Just for that simple fact they both CAN'T have average couples, their mates have to be special. And what is more special than this?

Q: Their families, what do they think?
A: That is a LONG story to be told. But, basically, Ferb and Vanessa always knew (and because of their own 'forbbiden' relationship they support their boy all the way), Isabella knew it latter but got happy because she loves Thomas too and she wants a special guy to be her daughter's boyfriend. Phineas...Phineas is so troubled. Not because it is about Thomas, mostly because he doesn't know how to handle Marie's feelings and also his own feelings about 'losing' his little girl.
But, at the end: they look for their children's happiness. End of the story (isn't that a parents' duty?) And the fact that Phineas goes with Ferb looking for advice, just puts them more together than ever. That's a lovely subplot we love to work on.

The "this is so wrong!" time.

Wrong? Do you believe that if this was wrong we would allow it? Do you believe we didn't make any research and collected data? We DID investigate, we did collect data. See below.
And, if even then you think this is wrong and bad and forbbiden and horrible: go and take care of yaoi/yuri shippers (nothing against them -w-) and only then you can come and tell us what to do with OUR characters ;D

Info:

FIRST: Let me remind you Thomas and Marie have this big "STEP-cousins" business, they are NOT related by blood, and they have different lastnames for legal facts. But, let's check what laws, religion and psychology say about real-cousins relationships.

Laws
"The group is people who are married to their cousins. These people note that 20 percent of marriages around the world are between first cousins, that Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin married their first cousins, and that first-cousin marriage, while prohibited in half the United States, is legal in Canada and throughout Europe"
In USA, allowed at: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona (conditional), california, Colorado, connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois (conditional), Indiana (if 'first cousins' label removed by laws), Kansas (HALF cousins, yes), Mississippi (ADOPTED cousins, yes), Montana (HALF cousins, yes), Nebraska (half-cousins), Nevada (half-cousins), New Jersey, New Mexico, New york, North Carolina (double cousins not allowed), Oklahoma (half), Oregon (adopted), Rhode island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah (conditional) Vermon, Virginia, West Virginia (adopted), Wisconsin (conditional)

AND: We are not even talking about marriage here! LOL.

Religion
I talked with a priest who's friend of mine and he said that marriage between cousins at chatolic religion is totally ALLOWED. Even then: In Leviticus chapter 18 (KJV), God tells us that we are not to have sexual relations with the following:

any close relative (which you will clearly see does not include cousins), your mother, your father's wife, your sister, (whole or half) "whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere" (v.9)
your grandchild, the daughter of your father's wife (step-sister), your father's sister (aunt) "as she is your father's close relative", your mother's sister (aunt) "as she is your mother's close relative", your father's brother's wife (aunt), your son's wife, your brother's wife, with both a woman and her daughter, your wife's sister as a rival wife (to spite your first wife), during "uncleanness of her monthly period", with your neighbor's wife, with a member of the same sex; the Bible says "that is detestable", with an animal; the Bible refers to this as "a perversion"

-w- God allows it. For more info, you can look for here

Psychology
The closest relationship prevails - note that cousinship is not calculated between individuals when one is descended from the other, for example, two individuals are not called cousins if they are any degree of grandparent, parent and child. Also cousinship is not calculated between individuals of any degree of aunt/uncle and nephew/niece relationship to each other.

At PnF's universe
Look at this family three and search if Phin and Ferb have a DIRECT line putting them together .u.

There is not line, is it?


Dear supporters: Thank you. That's all I have to say.

Dear neutrals: Also, thank you. You're an example of amazing artistic behavior.

Dear haters, bashers and non supporters: this message was specially for you, also:
I. Mean. It. I am NOT going to handle any war/fight. As you can see, we're NOT asking for your approval. WE ARE ACTUALLY into this and we are not taking this back. Got that right? Thank you.
Any bad comment is going to be removed ^-^

My dear dirty-little-secrets-keepers!: Scream, shout, squeal, do whatever you want! :'D Now you are allowed to fangirl (XD) about this like we did by notes or at MSN XDDDDD You are the most awesome people ever. I can't thank you enough for keeping the secret so far <333 (Do you want me guys to name you here? XD)

________



We were dying to reveal this :'DDDD Now...you can't tell how many fanarts, fanfics, ideas and stuff we have for this...
Thomarie is love, damn it <333333333333333

Aaaaand, the best part is that now we are allowed to show Marie's and Thomas' 'hidden' faces :'D Like Marie's solitude/hopelessness and Thomas' anger/jealous 'attacks'. So. Much. Fun.
Because everything about them is meant to be. No joke ._. we're scared about how things fit so perfectly, it's weird, our minds were so connected...and even then, Thomarie's story is so complicated, and sad, and complex and...sad XD

Congrats! To those clever people who discovered the whole thing without our word .u. even if you never said it, I'm sure a lot of you already expected this XD

Anyway. Longest artist comment ever, but they worth it :'D (now I have to publish their playlist, haven't I? ) Thank you so much for reading. Take a cookie if you did!

Love you :'D I really do.

Finally: This is FANDOM. Like seriously. XD


(It could be wrong, could be wrong) But it should have been right (..) Love is our resistance

Thomas Fletcher + Marie Flynn, ourselves ©
Original concept, style, several stuff © Dan Povenmire and Jeff 'Swampy' Marsh

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Comments: 440

Masky-Moo [2018-01-25 04:05:57 +0000 UTC]

noice

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Florafionpetals [2016-04-26 02:42:30 +0000 UTC]

Laughing at the two playing with the dolls X3

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SaraDere [2016-01-31 16:31:25 +0000 UTC]

This is literally my friends and I shipping people from afar....

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gokussj41234 [2015-11-25 19:01:15 +0000 UTC]

You do know there cousins right ?????

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Alcolm In reply to gokussj41234 [2017-01-07 04:13:30 +0000 UTC]

... Go read the description.

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Lillenarts In reply to gokussj41234 [2016-02-08 04:25:34 +0000 UTC]

They're not related by blood. Lol

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sky-the-ripper In reply to Lillenarts [2016-11-25 05:48:22 +0000 UTC]

But they're still cousins.

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gokussj41234 In reply to sky-the-ripper [2017-03-03 19:12:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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sky-the-ripper In reply to gokussj41234 [2017-03-04 01:15:39 +0000 UTC]

Even if not related by blood, cousins can't marry cousins... It's still considered insect by U.S. law

(I literally had to read the entire comment chair to remember what this was...)

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gokussj41234 In reply to gokussj41234 [2017-03-03 19:14:29 +0000 UTC]

I like it but there related

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Phinabellafan1253 [2015-10-23 18:26:20 +0000 UTC]

Marie has Phineas' obliviousness

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Marieflynn1234567890 [2015-08-27 22:53:33 +0000 UTC]

Aw!!!!! Im a fan of you!!!!!!!! And phineas and ferb 2 or thomarie? Oh whatever its called,

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LordMushroomKat [2015-06-12 20:52:47 +0000 UTC]

Thomarie 4 life!!!

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totaldramashipper [2014-12-11 05:48:41 +0000 UTC]

How are they step cousins exactly

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KraangTheConqueror In reply to totaldramashipper [2015-04-10 02:16:33 +0000 UTC]

Ferb is step-brother of Phineas. Ferb married Vanessa and have Thomas while Phineas married Isabella and have Marie.

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Princess-Lorelei [2014-08-07 15:56:38 +0000 UTC]

So I totally never heard of any of your work but I am fangirling to and I don't even know why! I'm so reading this!

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ElyPandita In reply to Princess-Lorelei [2014-08-07 16:17:07 +0000 UTC]

Lol, thank you ~

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whenyinmetyang [2013-10-10 09:34:06 +0000 UTC]

 they are not related, period.

that is SO cuuute! i noticed that thomas acts like he doesn't give a hoot but he really cares about her

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Dounuts1998 [2013-09-11 22:21:14 +0000 UTC]

What did you mean by Thomas loves Marie because she just her fathers daughter? I'm not hating on the relationship or anything I'm just confused at what you meant by it.

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whenyinmetyang In reply to Dounuts1998 [2013-10-10 09:32:05 +0000 UTC]

but she is her father's daughter. she's oblivious too like him.

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SuperFangirl13 In reply to whenyinmetyang [2014-07-08 17:39:46 +0000 UTC]

Looks of mom, attitude of dad.

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3The3Third3 [2013-09-02 13:53:30 +0000 UTC]

I don't understand what the big deal is, last time I checked Phineas and Ferb was fiction not real life so I don't see why there are even haters to begin with AND everyone seems to be forgetting the most important part.

They  look so cute together   

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ElyPandita In reply to 3The3Third3 [2013-09-02 19:28:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. Really.

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justinmackrow2 [2013-08-24 07:57:18 +0000 UTC]

So Thomas and Marie are an invention created by Doofensmirts?

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SuperFangirl13 In reply to justinmackrow2 [2014-08-08 01:38:19 +0000 UTC]

I believe the girls in the lab coats are the authors, if that's what you mean by 'Doofensmirtzs'.

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ElyPandita In reply to justinmackrow2 [2013-08-24 13:37:31 +0000 UTC]

No

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THEYYCALLMEEHELEN [2013-04-26 22:58:48 +0000 UTC]

wow you guys went all out on the legal facts just for a relationship that exists on the web . wow u guys really want this.

hey all you guys out there who are scrolling though the comments thinking " these kids shouldn't be together" or "they shouldn't be making out at a young age" or "this is just wrong " just remember they aren't your characters and that this is made up fandom just for people's entertainment . this is not real there for they shouldn't be trying to prove to you that this is right for a made up relationship online , every body has their own opinion but as you can see they don't care and you are just wasting your time trying to argue with them because they aren't gonna change their minds . and plus use your imagination, this is what they want to do and if you dont like it or dont have anything nice to say .DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!!!
and if you are reading this thinking that this chick is crazy about what shes saying and want to argue you about it with me than fine just dont bother these people . plus i took the time to write this because i care !
bottom line is you hate it dont read it

oh and this is awesome , love it !

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TnMyFnL-Monce-0810 [2013-04-02 13:00:13 +0000 UTC]

AWESOME

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Bricks-of-glass [2013-04-01 15:36:24 +0000 UTC]

I really don't want to bother you with a pointless question, but I really want to know!
You listed all the states in USA that allow cousin relationships. BUT, were is Danville located? "Danville is a major city in the Tri-State Area. A geographic anomaly, Danville is near the ocean, yet it is within a day's driving distance of Mount Rushmore." [link]
"Mount Rushmore is located in South Dakota" [link] So unless they decided to move, It's not allowed.

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ElyPandita In reply to Bricks-of-glass [2013-04-01 19:02:22 +0000 UTC]

I'm not in the fandom anymore, thank you.

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Thomarie456 In reply to ElyPandita [2015-07-31 19:15:16 +0000 UTC]

The lab coats on the Women are SOOOO CUUUUTTTEEEEE....            I wanted the Thomarie Honeymoon Accident comic, but cannot be displayed since the last time I checked on Deviant Art.

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Thomarie456 In reply to Thomarie456 [2015-08-05 16:26:48 +0000 UTC]

Again: The lab coats on the Women are SOOOO CUUUUTTTEEEEE...            I wanted the Thomarie Honeymoon Accident comic, but cannot be displayed since the last time I checked on Deviant Art.

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Thomarie456 In reply to Thomarie456 [2015-08-05 16:50:18 +0000 UTC]

3rd time: The lab coats on the women are SOOOO CUUUUTTTEEEEE...            I wanted the Thomarie Honeymoon Accident comic, but cannot be displayed since the last time I checked on Deviant Art.

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Thomarie456 In reply to Thomarie456 [2015-08-13 15:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Omg!  Jul 31 and Aug 5 are when I posted the comment!!!!!!!!!!!
Shame on sotosbros for making pics of beach girls.

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nuazka [2012-12-18 12:37:21 +0000 UTC]

I LOVE YOUR DESCRIPTION.

Now I can ship Braejack in peace. :'D

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Tink555 [2012-12-04 03:15:00 +0000 UTC]

Ely, I have a very serious question for you... Why in the world did you decide to make Marie and Thomas a couple? I'm honestly not gonna lie, I really do love SOME of your art work, but this kind of ruined it for me. They are cousins! COUSINS! They shouldn't love each other THAT way! I mean seriously, they are ten years old! TEN!!!!!!! They shouldn't be making out at TEN years old!!! That is just WRONG!!! Seriously, I never thought this way about anyone at ten years old! I'm sorry if this sounds mean, but seriously!

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ElyPandita In reply to Tink555 [2012-12-04 10:41:59 +0000 UTC]

The make out picture was for the trolls. They'll never kiss while they're children.

They're not biologically related, PnF are step-brothers. And you can find a whole explanaron about the issue in the comic named "The truth".

Finally, I'm not into the PnF fandom anymore, so I'd be really glad If you and people in general stopped asking me questions like this. That doesn't make me feel happy but really mad instead.

I'm sorry and I hope this solved your questions.

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waterstar98 In reply to ElyPandita [2020-07-04 20:16:52 +0000 UTC]

It’s sad to hear that your not in the fandom anymore and sad that you stopped this it’s so cute but I understand and I hope life been treating you well

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Tink555 In reply to ElyPandita [2012-12-04 23:18:09 +0000 UTC]

So you're saying that you made a picture of two children making out, just for the people who already hate that couple in the first place... Isnt that just a tiny bit anti-climatic?
It doesn't really matter if they are biologically related or not. Tell me something, have you ever once heard Phineas refer to Ferb as his stepbrother, or Ferb do the same to Phineas. One of my favorite things about this show is that although both Phineas and Ferb are both from broken families, they still act as if they are, and always have been one big family. They have ALWAYS seemed to just ignore the step part.
I'm really sorry for bugging you about that, but I believe this is your fault. You were one of the ones who decided to put time and effort into these characters... I'm afraid answering these types of questions is the result of it.
Thank you for actually taking the time to answer them.

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Thomarie456 In reply to Tink555 [2015-08-13 15:22:29 +0000 UTC]

Well, Plan A:  Ferb actually kills  Phineas and Candace kills Ferb and Mom kills Candace and Dad kills Mom and dies. Also,  Plan B:  Phineas decides to play on the tire swing, and   Phineas dies on the Tire swing by burning flames into Candace's heart.


Plan C: Candace sets a fire in the stove, and kills her whole family and she dies, too.
 
  

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ytsejam58 [2012-11-17 00:51:58 +0000 UTC]

At first i was a little weirded out by the cousin thing. Cuz when i think of me and my cousin, it seems weird. But then u mentioned that p and f arent really blood related. So that makes more sence to me.

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nondoka [2012-10-13 21:11:56 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I forgot Phineas and Ferb aren't even blood related. They're step brothers! Now it all makes sense :'D
Love this relationship, they're adorable.

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Mollxoxo18 [2012-10-13 17:38:51 +0000 UTC]

you got fanfics ? kewl x

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plreg [2012-10-04 02:58:22 +0000 UTC]

yikez! THAT IS SO WEIRD/ COOL! It works out and thank you SOO MUCH FOR HAVING IT IN ENGLISH! And wow since 2010 well done girlz!

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breezestar1 [2012-09-05 23:56:47 +0000 UTC]

AWESOME

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flavia0028 [2012-09-04 00:23:53 +0000 UTC]

EVERYONE!!!!! THOSE 'GIRLS' ARE THE CREATORS, OF THE CHARACTERS!!!!

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RedJoey1992 [2012-08-27 01:08:37 +0000 UTC]

Okay, This is by far the most completely idiotic idea i've ever read.

Since when did being related by blood matters more than family matters. You did make Marie and Thomas step-cousins but you wrote down thay they are not related by blood so they can have a reationship. That is like a horrible loophole of an excuse to make them get together.

Have you seen the show and how the blended family thing works? Well Lawrence has been accepted by Phineas and Candace as their true dad. So if you wanted them to have a romance, why are they step-cousins in the first place? You did know that Phineas and Ferb are stepbrothers, right?

I still think that she needs a real crush, One who isn't related by blood, not a step-cousin who may not be related by blood but is related by family bonds.

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ElyPandita In reply to RedJoey1992 [2012-08-27 01:10:37 +0000 UTC]

Haters to the left, thank you

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RedJoey1992 In reply to ElyPandita [2012-08-27 01:16:53 +0000 UTC]

I think I got a better Phinabella OC that'll blow Marie out of the Water: Rachel 'Ray Gun' Flynn: [link]

Her Profile: [link]

Come On, I Dare you to read it.

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ElyPandita In reply to RedJoey1992 [2012-08-27 01:20:58 +0000 UTC]

I don't want to, sweetie, I'm sorry I'm sick of this fandom and everything that goes with it. I'd appreciate if you leave me alone and put all this effort on your beloved OC.

Have a nice day.

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