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Description Macbeth and Lady Macbeth are just relentless. I want an AU where all the Shakespeare characters live in a neighborhood together and Lady M always plots against the neighbors like, "Titania thinks that her garden is better than mine. I'm going to go hint that Oberon is cheating on her." Or, "That punk Mercutio egged our house last week. I'm going to bake him a cake and put poison in it." And then Macbeth is always like, "Uh, yes, dear..."

I had a lot of fun drawing Lady Macbeth's dress.
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VertFaere [2015-06-10 19:30:02 +0000 UTC]

This may be my weird sense of humor, but I love his tragedies. Great drawing,the poses echo the words nicely.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-10 19:32:47 +0000 UTC]

Oh, the tragedies are excellent, though. They highlight the flaws of human nature...in the case of Macbeth, selfish ambition. Thanks!

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-10 20:15:02 +0000 UTC]

I never looked at it that way. I always considered them hilarious because it seems like he is mocking the insane things we do, to achieve an end. Like bring about our own fate in trying to aviod it(Macbeth), banning people from seeing each other then being surprised when they break the rules(Romeo and Juliet) and Insane people can get away with anything(Hamlet). The one thing I do not find amusing is the logic that killing yourself will finally bring you happiness, when you are perfectly healthy to begin with. (Romeo and Juliet). How is that romantic?

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-10 20:25:54 +0000 UTC]

Well, I had never looked at it in that way, and you are right, actually; the tragedies are full of bitter irony that can be rather funny if you remove the utter drama of it all. Hm...well, in the case of Romeo and Juliet, Romeo killed himself first because he thought that Juliet was dead, and Romeo was just so incredibly passion-ruled that he thought that he would rather die than live without her. After Juliet woke up and found Romeo dead, it was pretty much the same thing. So, they didn't commit suicide to gain happiness as much as they committed suicide to escape tragedy...not that that's a legitimate reason to kill yourself.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-10 20:42:40 +0000 UTC]

Hamlet would have been king, had there been less drama. All it takes is one slash of a poisoned sword. Even if juliet was truly dead, he could have gone on and honored her memory.Β  In the end, it was the parents who paid the price. Both lost children they loved because they were stubborn and prideful. The kids death didn't end the suffering. Im in a slightly serious mood today. Β  To lighten the mood though, Shakespere did a terrific job of writing the worstΒ  way to show our flaws. Another moment that stands out is Taming of the Shrew, were Kat is so superficial and the guy makes her realize that.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-19 22:18:48 +0000 UTC]

True, Romeo did not exactly provide a good example. I think that impulsivity is in his nature, which explains why he spontaneously fell in love with Juliet even though a few hours previous he was in love with a different girl, Rosaline. Ah yes, that's a good moment in Taming of the Shrew. I think that when Petruchio says that, Kate really thinks about it and gives it some consideration, because shortly after, she becomes willing to humor him in his game.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-19 22:39:20 +0000 UTC]

That is one play that ends happily. I want to reread "A midsummers nights dream". Its so chaotic, but funny. I think that one shows the importance of knowing what someone looks like when your going to send someone on a mission.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-19 22:50:07 +0000 UTC]

"The guy and the girl are wearing Athenian garments," says Oberon without considering the fact that they are in a forest that is right next to Athens. Yeah, he probably could have chosen some other way to distinguish them...

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-19 22:53:14 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps by their eye color, or asking their name, in their sleep? Heh. I wouldn't rely on him to give a good description to a police officer about a mysterious person he saw, leavingΒ  a crime scene.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-19 23:00:18 +0000 UTC]

Definitely not...although I think Oberon would rather take matters of justice into his own hands than trust local law enforcement. Of course, his ideas of justice would be giving people animal heads and causing general havoc.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-19 23:05:09 +0000 UTC]

To be fair, I thought giving someone who was named "Bottom", should be given the head of an ass. I suspect he did it for another reason, other then the name. He wanted to make an "ass" out of her, for taking the boy he found. Or something like that. Clearly those two have martial issues. I guess they need to redefine what an open marriage means to them.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-19 23:09:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes, the pun is there. Actually, Titania found the boy first--his mother died in childbirth and so she vowed to raise him. I think it was rather selfish on Oberon's part to want to make the boy his servant in spite of this...but maybe that's just me. In any case, you're right. Titania and Oberon need a lot of help; it seems they can't even meet without accusing one another of infidelity and stubbornness and other such offenses.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-19 23:16:13 +0000 UTC]

That's a really silly reason to argue. I think Oberon is jealous of any attention she gives someone else. He's probably fooling around just as much as she is. What made it even better in my opinion is that the actor whoΒ  played him in the movie with all the other big named stars, is gay. Anyway could have given those lines but I tend to read a lot into how someone reads lines, and the emotions they put into them. A good actor will put a piece of themselves into the character. Just like an author would put pieces of themselves or their lives into their works.Β 

Anyway, your very knowledgeable about Shakespeare. I cannot wait to take a course in Shakespeare, for collage. It would be for fun mostly.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-25 00:32:54 +0000 UTC]

True...being the fairy king, one would probably be accustomed to always being the center of attention. Oh, that is interesting--in one production (one that was filmed at the Globe Theatre in London, actually) Oberon went so far as to kiss Puck on the lips after Puck had given Titania the potion. I agree, and it's interesting to see how different actors choose to portray the same character.

Thank you, although I'm certainly not an expert. Me too--I was a little disappointed that there wasn't a Shakespeare class at my high school, but oh well--there will certainly be more than one Shakespeare class in college.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-25 00:43:33 +0000 UTC]

Titania likes attention too. What an odd couple. Really? I wish I could have seen that. I think Shakespeare had a better understanding of the world, as an artist, then a normal person wouldn't.Β  There is no term for their orientation, because its so mysterious. But the closest thing that could be related to is Bisexual. Then again, that's just my opinion and Im beginning to learn why people do not want to be labeled for their orientation. Heh.Β  There wasn't a Shakespeare class in my high school. There were a few assignments in English Literature that dealt with him,in the poetry area.

I taught myself how to read Shakespeare. Then when I got older, I really got into it when I realized it was just poetry, in a different form. I've memorized "To be or not to be", and that was a challenge. I know a sonnet "My mistress eyes are nothing like the sun", and I would like to memorize the balcony scene in Romeo and Juliet. I want to be able to mock it horrible, mwahahaaha! I get pleasure out of doing that.Β  Anyway, I'm sure there will be more then one Shakespeare course in college.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-06-25 19:07:53 +0000 UTC]

I was required to read Romeo and Juliet as well as Othello for school, and I also had to memorize a sonnet ("Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?"), but it wasn't until some time later that I realized that I really enjoyed Shakespeare. The language is really beautiful, but I think what I love most of all are the characters, and how three-dimensional they are. Haha, I have no problems with you horribly mocking Romeo and Juliet. There are quite a number of Shakespeare parodies that I have found hilarious.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-06-25 19:15:28 +0000 UTC]

I remember going to a Renaissance fair, and a group was putting onΒ  the play "Romeo and Juliet". They had an hour to do it, but completed it sooner, so they went on to see how fast they could do the play. In the end, it was a breif summary that was ultimately hilarious.Β  It consisted of them standing in a line, on the stage, delivering lines that stood out. Romeo fell down, then juilet. and romeo again. It was a small company, so they had guys playing the girls, and multiple parts. Th guy playing juliet, also played one of Romeo's cousins, and he forgot the wig was on his head.Β  Best. Play. Ever. Well second to "The unabridged complete plays of William Shakespeare". I forget who does it, but its four blokes doing all his plays in 2 hours.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-07-10 18:27:04 +0000 UTC]

That sounds absolutely terrific...Shakespearean tragedies become hilarious when parodied. Especially the ones with all the generous death. Oh yeah, the Reduced Shakespeare Company! I have yet to watch that one, but it's certainly on my list.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-07-10 20:57:03 +0000 UTC]

It was hilarious. Then they took questions from the audience I think and someone mentioned "Macbeth". The actor got irrated and insisted that the next person who said it had to stand up, hop on on leg in a backwards circle, three times. The person did it, but it was hard to tell if the actor was being serious or not.Β  Yeah, thats the one group. I watched it withΒ  two of my friends and we loved it. I understood the references more then them though.

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Eph5-8 In reply to VertFaere [2015-07-13 22:16:25 +0000 UTC]

I watched the Reduced Shakespeare Company on YouTube a couple of nights ago, and it was pretty funny. They didn't spend a lot of time on each of the plays though; they gave most of their time to the tragedies because "the tragedies are a lot funnier than the comedies". And that's true, in a parody. I think it's just the delightful irony that something so heavy is being treated so flippantly.

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VertFaere In reply to Eph5-8 [2015-07-14 00:27:25 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. That must be it. He could have made it really somber, but he didn't. Its like he was mocking things like star crossed lovers and being too obsessed with your own destiny.

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Flute-Maniac [2015-05-12 00:22:51 +0000 UTC]

That would be an AMAZING AU...and I love your character designs for MacB and his lady.

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