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Feesu-san — Murder is Murder
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Published: 2014-09-12 23:00:37 +0000 UTC; Views: 3270; Favourites: 37; Downloads: 0
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Probably the least debated topic but, lemme get something straight:Life is created solely by God and a sacred gift from Him (Genesis 2:7). He gave life to every living thing, including humans (Genesis 1:26; John 1:1-3). And we all have been given a choice between life and death (Deuteronomy 30:19). Now some of you may ask at this point "But does that make euthanasia acceptable?" No. It doesn't. Euthanasia spurns the gift and embraces the curse.
No matter what anyone thinks, euthanasia is murder. Plus, the Bible made it perfectly clear "Thou shall not kill", is that so hard?
In all honesty, the doctors are not God. Okay? They have no right whatsoever to decide who lives and who dies. Its only God who will be the judge of that, and its only Him who gives and takes away life, not man, and certainly not a bunch of doctors.
You know what's also the worst part about euthanasia? Is that the children, vulnerable and disabled ones are at risk, and it will force them to go with the blood-spilling procedure. Its not right. And as we speak now, there are doctors, as well as Paralympians who are strongly against euthanasia.
Even though death may be inevitable, it is not our place to seek death for our friend or loved one who is critically ill in anyway. By performing assisted suicide on a person, you may think that "putting him/her out of misery" or some "dignifying death", before God, you're clearly committing murder, and such act is sinful before God. Murder is not "dignifying" in any way, shape or form, no matter how you try to sugarcoat it; it is nothing but a blood-spilling act that does nothing but take the life of an innocent soul. You may think that it may the "right thing to do", but in reality, your hands will be full of blood.
Now, we as Christians should always bear in mind that this planet is not our permanent home. With that being said, think about Paul the Apostle; he was under house arrest in Rome, he was then thrown into a stone cell, most of his companions deserted him. His closest friends were miles away, ministering to others. But despite these horrible and harsh conditions, Paul still trusted in God; he still knew that God had a plan for Him, despite going through these sufferings (2 Timothy 2:10).
It may seem like all is over, but in the midst of the suffering, God is still working, and will continue to do so until we draw our very last breath (Philippians 1:6 ).
All in all, euthanasia is never okay, it is murder before God. There will come a time when we will eventually leave this world, but that is not for us to decide; that should be left into God's hands.
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Yes, it takes the life of an innocent soul... because their life is miserable and they'd rather pass on than stay on the mortal plane and suffer, only to die a couple days later because some moron on deviantart got offended by his wish to die a peaceful death instead of rotting away in a hospital somewhere.
"They have no right whatsoever to decide who lives and who dies."
Then they should stop saving people's lives. Who the fuck even are these people, trying to disrupt the will of god by curing the diseases that he gave the patients?! Besides, this is completely irrelevant because the doctor isn't the one who decides if a person is euthanized or not. Sure, he gives permission, but the patient has to agree to be euthanized as well.
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can someone euthanize me so i don't have to read these anymore
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I support only euthanasia when the patient wants/demands it.
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Yup.
I admit, I wondered if special needs people like me should be euthanized. But no, that would not be right.
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So the first paragraph is copy-pasted from GotQuestions.org, which says that no, the decision is one to be guided by prayer and not necessarily wrong. xD
C'mon, lovely. Jesus took the context of a situation into account when deeming someone a murderer, so you can't just go throwing around absolutes like this for a happening with many sides and reasons for each path to take on the matter.
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Oh yeah, I might add, you ever heard of Hisashi Ouchi? The Japanese man who was exposed to lethal amounts of radiation and had his skin melted off, lost 20 liters of body fluids a day, literally had his chromosomes destroyed? They worked round the clock trying to keep him alive, gave him meds not even available in Japan yet, even though he begged for death after the first week and wound up living for 83 days. (You think I'm kidding, go look it up.) By your logic, "They have no right whatsoever to decide who lives and who dies. Its only God who will be the judge of that, and its only Him who gives and takes away life, not man, and certainly not a bunch of doctors," that should be commendable.
...Honey, are you SERIOUSLY that ignorant? 'Cause frankly, as a fellow Christian, I find the idea to be absolutely barbaric.
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So I should just let my dog live a more painful life until they die a very long and painful death?
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Does the term "terminal cancer" not ring any bells?
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What if the person was going to painfully die anyways? Err..
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how long does it take for someone to die if their intestines rupture?
or if their brain is melting.
what kind of slow and agonising deaths of injury or illness exist and how long do they last? humans can have the options for lots of drugs and comphert in dying.
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I'm not sure if you're talking about humans or animals, but personally, I don't like the idea of it for humans. But sometimes animals are in a LOT of pain. And it's better to let them go. I'm always sad as heck when it comes down to that but still, it sometimes HAS to
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What about the people who suffer terminal cancer? Why should we let them suffer their incurable disease?
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Okay, I don't want to be spreading hate all through your gallery, because you're entitled to your opinions just as I am entitled to mine, but I truly believe that you have NO idea what euthenasia is, because it is NOT against the will of the sick, otherwise it wouldn't be called assisted suicide, now would it? Please try to learn what it really is before jumping to conclusions.
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Oh okay, so I should have just let my dying and suffering dog die painfully?
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Actually, the Bible says, "Thou Shalt Not MURDER."
If what you said was true, then God would have prohibited the eating of meat. If you were right, we'd all be vegetarians.
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old comment is old but vegetarians murder plants
ahhHHAHAHHA this joke is terrible im sorry
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As someone who cares for a woman who is terminally ill, this makes me sick to my stomach.
At the moment we can control her pain through various medications and pretty much make it through each day, We do know that it won't last forever. The painkillers will eventually not be enough. The medications won't be able to control her cancer's growth as time goes on.
It's already bad now.
Imagine a pain that blots everything out. A sensation of agony that consumes every thought you have until you are nothing but a feeble form shivering under the blankets. Even when the pain is held back with a small mountain of medications she can't enjoy the things she loves. She can't read for long. She can hardly walk even with support. The medication has her in a mild state of confusion at all times.
The Doctors say it will get worse.
Those are the times that I think she has the right to decide what she wants to do with her life. At the moment she is comfortable when we can control the pain. And if we're lucky we'll have a few more years of peace if you will. We know it won't last forever. It's not the nature of these things to do so.
When the time comes where it is impossible to maintain the quality of life there should be that choice. It's insane to ask someone who can find no rest to put up with that kind of torture.
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thank you so much for this comment
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Yeah. The 10 Commandments state that "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... Except...
Exodus 2:12 And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand. (This was MOSES, BTW.)
Exodus 17:9-14
9 And Moses said unto Joshua, Choose us out men, and go out, fight with Amalek: to-morrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the rod of God in my hand.
10 So Joshua did as Moses had said to him, and fought with Amalek: and Moses, Aaron, and Hur went up to the top of the hill.
11 And it came to pass, when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed; and when he let down his hand, Amalek prevailed.
12 But Moses’ hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; And his hands were steady until the going down of the sun.
13 And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.
14 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: that I will utterly blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
(This is actual, total GENOCIDE, just to clarify.)
Exodus 31:26-28
26 then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Whoso is on Jehovah’s side, let him come unto me. And all
the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
27 And he said unto them, Thus saith Jehovah, the God of Israel, Put ye every man his sword upon his thigh, and
go to and fro from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion,
and every man his neighbor.
28 And the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three
thousand men.
Numbers 15:32-36
32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it had not been declared what should be done to him.
35 And Jehovah said unto Moses, The man shall surely be put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him to death with stones; as Jehovah commanded Moses.
And I'll bring up Numbers 31:16-18 (Again)
16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against Jehovah in the matter of Peor, and so the plague was among the congregation of Jehovah.
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women-children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 2:31-35
31 And Jehovah said unto me, Behold, I have begun to deliver up Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land.
32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz.
33 And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining:
35 only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, with the spoil of the cities which we had taken.
Those are just a few little extracts from the beginning of a book with more killing than every game of GTA ever! Truly, the Bible, and the god depicted in it, definitely condone killing. By the thousand, if we are to take the book literally. There isn't even any context. You kill your enemies, you kill unbelievers, you kill your own... Just because O Great Sky-Daddy says so. And these acts weren't mercy killings, they were the true definition of acts of murder. Killing, to you, is only bad when it suits your, and the Bible's agenda. If you really believe that all killing of other people is unconditionally wrong, then you should be against God, Moses, Samson, and the whole Bible in general, but you aren't. Instead, you push its agenda out of fear instilled by parental indoctrination and utter disregard for others. Darwinian self-preservation instinct at its finest: the epitome of selfishness.
Again, you're preaching the existence of life over the quality thereof. You're stating that people don't deserve the right to autonomy over their own bodies and lives, and that a little book written just under 2000 years ago by a committee should usurp that right. And yet again, I'll bring up 1 Timothy 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Half the people you're preaching to are men. If a man chooses to die, your Bible says you have no right to stop him, or even to object. As a woman, you should really think about who you're preaching to, or you'll go to Hell.
And this preaching of "God's Divine Plan" is rich, coming from somebody who PRAYS. Bear in mind that prayer is basically you asking God to directly alter his Grand Plan, be it to help you find your keys, or pass an exam when you may have been down to fail, because it doesn't suit you. You think you have the right to ask the being you believe created the universe to change something because it doesn't suit you, but people shouldn't have the right to do what they want with their own lives and bodies? If hypocrisy were electricity, you could power all the cities on the planet indefinitely.
The fact of the matter is that innocent people do not deserve the right to suffer indefinitely until they die. They have rights to their own bodies and their own lives. Whether you like it or not, you have no right over them or their lives and bodies, just your own. If you want to suffer until your body naturally packs-in, then good luck with that. Should you get cancer or Alzheimer's, or AIDS, or motor neuron, or anything else, I won't be marching into your hospital ward with a .357 Magnum. But you shouldn't do the same, literally or figuratively, with a Bible. There is one fundamental rule that you need to learn about life if you want to actually be a force for good and not a bigoted, hateful, fearful, selfish incarnation of malevolence: People have rights, ideas do not!
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...and your comment proves that someone can be both correct, & extremely wrong at the same time.
Also, it's 'THOU SHALL NOT MURDER!!!,' Not, thou shall not Kill. for some reason, ---Atheists, reporters, Baptists, tree-huggers, vegetarians & other non-Christians just seem to always get that wrong for some reason. 
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it's their own who say "all killing is murder" and "not kill not murder" and not their foes.
if murder is murder, then do we need 4 kinds of legal terms?
or like how if I teased someone to death over their sicko incest fanfiction involving real people. I need to be charged with murder?(when those people were just weak to begin with)
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Umm... Actually, before you go jumping to her defence... "No matter what anyone thinks, euthanasia is murder. Plus, the Bible made it perfectly clear "Thou shall not kill", is that so hard?" are her exact words.
Seems like she reads a different version of the "Truth" than you do.
I'm perfectly aware that there are different translations, though I decided to address FCU777's argument directly. You may note that as the reason I didn't source it, but still put it in quote marks.
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??? Unless ... No, I still don't get what you're trying to say.
When I say it's,THOU SHALL NOT MURDER!, I mean that's the actual words from the NIS Bible, (New International Standard) or the benchmark setting successor to the King James Bible.
Basically, if you are trying to have anything even Close to a civil, reasoned, factual, and honest discussion on the topic's of the Bible---You use these as your base scripture.
Also, whose defense was I jumping to??? Honestly, I've no idea what you mean, as I didn't think I was acting defensively on anyone's behalf.
Honestly I thought I might offend someone by being too aggressive/negative.
I did point out what I thought about that post, that it was basically wrong despite trying to present facts that supported their opinions. That, & point out the most egregious error that was made.that particular error, is a bit of a sore point for me.
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OK, let me make this clear for you... When I mentioned the words "Thou Shalt Not Kill", I was quoting FCU777, and her use of the words. I was deconstructing her point, and as such, I was stating that, in her view, the commandment said "Kill", which lead her to her false belief that the Bile does not condone killing. I was not using that as a source, such as the Bible, but pointing out a hole in her logic based on whatever Biblical text she must have read in order to state that the commandment said "Kill", and not "Murder". Basically, highlighting what she had said, based on the assumption that she possibly read it as "Thou Shalt Not Kill" somewhere, and believed it to be true.
And my point of you jumping to her defence is that you assume only non-Christians, such as myself, can get such things wrong. Clearly, my response to her may need some extra context, but what I said was not an error. If it were a sourcing error, I would have cited chapter and verse like I did with the actual sources I used, but as you can see, I did not. Perhaps it would be better if I quoted her entire sentence, but that would simply make it harder to pin down which part of her logic I was trying to address.
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oh. more to say. timing out thiough.
read my post futher down.
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Which post are you referring to? There are 2.
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either ~or
same problem.
Ithought he read all post's
Peace...
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sorry. I was referring to the fact that I only got to that reply about 2-3mins before the P.F.W.S. was closing down for the night. (Public Free Wi-Fi Space)
Again!
Anyway, either/or for which post, mainly cause I tend to think of it as one long comment, as opposed to separate parts. {note: Unless you're actively trolling, I'd fix that spelling error in your 2nd post before you offend someone. Hint: I do not read 'Bile'.)
additional comment below those if you want...
as to that whole 'non-christians' thing, wait...
...sorry for the wait, timed out on provided PC, now on tablet.
As I was saying, that was somewhat less of a serious statement of a belief it was all the fault of non-christians, and more the general experiences of myself thinking people would get the joke... That, plus I've encountered a lot of person's who seem to think this is the truth, and seem to think that they can then use the 5th commandment as evidence/propaganda against religion in general, and Christianity in particular. This annoys me...:-[
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Yeah, I think I get what you're trying to say now. Though 99% of 777's rhetoric is so facepalm-inducing that it's impossible sometimes to tell if people in her comments section are serious or joking.
That being the case (that you interpret the Bible based on its original context), does that mean you hold to the idea that all the nasty shit in the Bible, such as the rapes, mysoginy, rules on slavery, mass genocides, other killings, incest, etc. are morally correct?
As for the spelling mistake, it's actually a typo, as I'm using a shitty university keyboard which is vastly different to my own one. Though, witty keyboard is witty.
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If someone is suffering from a terminal illness that will kill them slowly and painfully, they should be given the option of release. No one should have to suffer in agony based on someone else's beliefs about who or what has authority over life.
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If only I could like this comment...
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You are right, intent is everything. When dealing with the concept of death, or murder, we always have to look at the intent. The example you gave, is good intentions, and therefore I don't believe it is wrong.
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Fucking nazi you're!
We have rights to end up your life! And if i want to kill myself i don't care if some religious freak disagree. Christians are backward.
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Well, no one has the right to end someone else's life, but yea they do have the right to end their own, regardless of anything a "religious freak" says
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The elements of common law murder are:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder
Killing is NOT always Murder.
That said, if its illegal, it is automatically Murder.
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Legal or not, murder will always be murder. And killing IS murder.
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Killing is not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being. There are lawful killings such as death row, in self defense, and so on. These are supported by the bible. I forget where it's at, but if a person were to break into someones home and the owner were to kill them no blood was to be shed on them. They didn't do anything wrong. It's killing, but not murder. If killing was wrong we couldn't eat... ever.
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