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SnittyCakez [2012-01-24 22:21:40 +0000 UTC]
I LOVE this! The detail is awsome ^^
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horsesandponies [2011-06-06 22:01:32 +0000 UTC]
THIS IS AWSOME!!!!!!!She is WAY better than my character Bella GREAT job
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feralkin In reply to horsesandponies [2011-06-07 06:03:10 +0000 UTC]
Thanks but don't put Bella down- she's also great in her own way.
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Topgallant [2011-04-02 23:31:48 +0000 UTC]
C: I want your OC to be canon.
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feralkin In reply to Topgallant [2011-04-03 05:52:27 +0000 UTC]
Thanks a lot! I'd love her to be canon too, by the looks of Legacy it doesn't seem like poor Alan and Lora have any children though I could be wrong...
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Topgallant In reply to feralkin [2011-04-04 07:10:28 +0000 UTC]
I think they would have mentioned it, even in passing, but they probably wanted nothing to take away from Sam's importance.
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feralkin In reply to Topgallant [2011-04-04 12:03:28 +0000 UTC]
I have a feeling Sam and Quorra's relationship might just steal the limelight in the next film. I am still hoping that some of the original characters get more attention though.
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lonegungirl42 [2011-02-24 00:32:31 +0000 UTC]
Love the art and the idea. I've often wished that SOMEWHERE between the movies, comics, and games that somebody would have a daughter instead of just a bunch of sons :/
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feralkin In reply to lonegungirl42 [2011-02-24 05:41:48 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! It is good to know that there are others out there who feel this way I mean there are enough fan girls out there who need representation. Characters like Quorra can be entertaining but seem to exist on the outskirts of the central story.
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lonegungirl42 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-24 15:10:48 +0000 UTC]
Agreed. Personally, I really liked Quorra, but I didn't like her treatment in the movie - - she didn't get to participate much; she seemed to mostly be there to watch the men talk and occasionally hit things :/ Really wish there was more female representation in Tron in general... couldn't believe they didn't even _mention_ Lora in the new movie.
/end rant, lol
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feralkin In reply to lonegungirl42 [2011-02-24 16:41:31 +0000 UTC]
Quorra has a wonderful child-like persona, very inquisitive and intelligent. Sorry to say she may be a little wasted on Sam. Despite his adrenalin junkie habits personality-wise he was a little dull, though one can understand why he looks bewildered a lot of the time.
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KHwhitelion [2011-02-21 18:05:19 +0000 UTC]
This. IS. So. COOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have a canon son?
I like the daughter idea better.
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MatchstickPrincess In reply to feralkin [2011-02-21 14:35:25 +0000 UTC]
I have missed seeing your more intricate pieces, I will admit, but at the same time I'm rather enjoying seeing you experiment with different styles and mediums. Also, the concept art pieces you've done for me are brilliant!
I eagerly await this fanfic of yours. I'm sure it's going to be fantastic. Tell me where you'll be posting it so I can be sure to have a look, okay?
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-21 11:50:49 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, I've gotten other comments suggesting I do away with Jet but I really don't mind including him since he's a pretty decent character.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-22 02:29:53 +0000 UTC]
I agree. Jet is a decent character. Honestly, I did a "ficlet" of a fan fiction story that introduced Jet into the film timeline after the events of "Tron: Legacy." Of course, the story was of Sam approaching Jet to help him out with a "project." (I went as far as to even incorporate a bit of the cellphone conversation between Jet and Alan from the game into the first "part" of the story, as well as mentioning that Jet helped out his mother in creating Ma3a for the digitization lab) If you want to read it, here's the link for it. If not, don't worry. Honestly, I don't know if I'll continue it or even what to do about it, but I think it opens the door to many to consider the possibility that Jet could be involve in the films' timeline (especially since for the next film, it's hinted that Dillenger, Jr. and his father is going to cause some havoc with Encom, and it'd be great to have the trifecta from the first film of Dillenger vs. Flynn and Bradley). [link]
But I agree with your character too, as I can also see her being involved in the storyline.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-22 07:45:55 +0000 UTC]
It's not really great. Honestly, not much happens, as I tried to look at it as a character piece than a plot-driven piece. But I hope you enjoy it.
Honestly, I'm surprised you haven't started a graphic novel with Angela as the protagonist. TBH, I'd like to read such a story (kinda makes me wonder what she thinks of Kevin Flynn's disappearance, and what she thinks of Quorra also).
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-22 10:13:24 +0000 UTC]
I really enjoyed your fic, I think character pieces are fun as you can get inside their heads instead of rushing through events.
Jet is a background character in mine but he defiantly made an impression on Angela. In my story he is out of Encom pursuing his own career outside of his parents' shadow. His sister has just left to do the same though for different reasons. It is a big adjustment for her as she keeps looking back. She loves the order of programming amidst all the chaos. I think she's also a daddy's girl to some extent and fears that she'll disappoint him whereas Jet seems to be more content in himself.
Angela's memories of Flynn will defiantly come into play as will Ida's interaction with Quorra I'd imagine they'd learn a lot from each other. Anyway I hope to post the first Chapter this evening I can send you a link.
I'd love to do a series of graphic novels but I'll write down my ideas first (then illustrate them as the time presents itself).I have already written an essay here!
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-22 12:13:01 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. Honestly, I don't know if I'll do another "part" of the story, but I have been considering on allowing anyone to take what I've done with Jet and run with it if they want to. And as strange as it sounds, it seems that we've both got an idea on how Jet would come off, as someone who is wanting to get away out of that shadow, no matter how much the parents want him to. And I can understand how Angela is. Being a younger kid myself, it's always difficult trying to step away from the parents without the fear of causing harm to them in some way, especially the fear of trying to accomplish something for yourself, that they're willing to back you up on, and failing in front of them. If I'm wrong with my interpretation, I apologize.
Definitely sounds like you've got a plan going and can't wait to check out the story.
BTW, if you need a program to "script" out the graphic novel (be it for this story or for another), Celtx is pretty good program. I've used it to write several short film scripts and am working on a feature-length with it. Here's the link for Celtx: [link]
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-22 15:10:45 +0000 UTC]
Also thanks for the link to Celtx, I've been writing in a novel-style rather than script. I will keep that in mind for the future.
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-22 15:05:51 +0000 UTC]
Here is the Fan fiction: [link]
I think you should definitely do another part of the story. Jet just strikes me as someone who wants to explore new territory. I don't believe people have to be just like their parents so he is an example of that and Angela seemed to contrast nicely to him in that she wants to follow in their footsteps but she knows she's going to have to do it her own way.
So your interpretation is spot on. Angela realizes that even her father has his flaws (perhaps not being assertive enough and letting the company use him). Then her program, Ida will have to change her ideas about Tron too as he would almost be a legendary figure to her(without her knowing the connection between their users). They both have to come to terms with the vulnerabilities of those they respect.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-22 17:02:56 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I've considered doing another chapter, and even considered taking some of the story details presented in "Tron 2.0" and "Legacy"-ize it a bit, having the Bradleys, Sam and Quorra fighting Ed Dillenger Snr both inside and outside the system (but decided against it primarily because I try to stick with continuity of a story, and until a "Tron 3" is released, anything with the Dillengers trying to take over Encom would be off-limits). As for what to do for another chapter, it's kinda hard to decide on. I don't know if Jet should take Sam up on the offer for the job (as with the way I have the story right now, it leaves the possibility open that if Jet somehow turned up in the next film, people could deduce that he finally took Sam up on the job or if he doesn't turn up in the next film, people could deduce he continued to not have any involvement out of personal risk.
As for what I would do for the next part is hard to say, as my muse hasn't hit me with the idea crowbar (J/k).
But I will admit, much like how Sam trained in Amazon Capoeira (as its revealed in one of the websites for the Flynn Lives ARG) and being a base jumper, I think Jet would be well verse in Parkor and would somehow be able to use it in-system if it ever came to that.
Also, I almost forgot... I don't know if you've actually seen the videos or was involved with Flynn Lives (like I was), but remember when Jet mentions seeing the "Encom dog and pony show" video on YouTube in my fic? This was what he was referring to.
Preface: [link]
Part 1: [link]
Part 2: [link]
And Space Paranoids Online: [link]
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-22 17:54:42 +0000 UTC]
I think the Dillingers will definitely play a part in the next film, you don't cast an actor like Cillian Murphy to be part of the furniture. Its just a question of how they will do it as you an never predict how things will turn out.
Most of my information comes from the Tron Wiki, a terrible source I know. I did know of Space Paranoids and have heard of the Flynn Lives campaign but my knowledge is very limited. Thanks for the links.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-22 18:30:17 +0000 UTC]
Well, from what's been reported, there's been a "teaser" filmed for a "Tron 3" where Alan runs into the guy who is running the Flynn Lives campaign (hint: it's someone from the original film), Quorra is swamped by the paparazzi outside of Encom and both Dillengers Snr. and Jr. meet up to discuss how things are "going according to plan. But even before that report, it was reported that if "Part 3" was made, that Cillian Murphy would be playing the lead villain.
You're very much welcome. Honestly, there's a lot of things revealed in the Flynn Lives ARG that not many people know. Like for example, the page that Alan got that CLU sent... It didn't reach Alan's beeper until the events of the film due to FL members who hacked an old telephone server using a Digital Pulse. If you really want to know a lot about the Flynn Lives ARG, go here (the timeline gives a bit of detail of events, the actions that occurred and some of the items that was sent out in relation to the ARG): [link]
BTW, if you want an Encom Badge template for Angela (for when she used to work for Encom), you can go here. There's a lot of digital scans of swag given out during the ARG (such as paper "props" that were sent in the mail): [link]
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-22 19:20:15 +0000 UTC]
I've heard of the infamous teaser and I hope it is who I think it is behind the Flynn Lives campaign. All I'll say is that I really enjoyed Ram as a character and Dan Shor's popcorn eater (that was a nice touch in the fan fic by the way). So much effort has gone on behind the scenes of this film.
Thanks again for the links I am leaching off you. The badges could come in handy and I can't believe there's even the old-school arcade font available.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-23 06:12:29 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, it's Dan Shor according to what I heard. Honestly, I was surprised to find out that the popcorn eater and Ram were both played by the same actor (but then again, you don't get a clear view of the popcorn eater's face, so I guess no one made the connection). The popcorn thing in the fic was not just a reference to the scene from the film (and the subsequent scene from the opening of "Tron 2.0"). But I also have it in there because I wanted to show how, in certain details, that Jet is similar to his old man. I actually came close to having Jet at the elevator about to punch the door after the phone call, only for it to open at the last second (much like how Alan did after the meeting with Dillenger in the original film), but I decided against it because I thought it would have been way too "oh, another "TRON" reference."
You're very much welcome. I rather share the links than not. Yeah, there's a wide variety of stuff available that's "TRON" related. I'm actually a member of the Replica Prop Forum, and there's an ongoing discussion in relation to "TRON: Legacy" outfits and mods for the Deluxe ID disc. So, yeah, the limits of "TRON" stuff is wide.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-23 11:38:51 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree, there is a thin line between nods and redoing the film. Definitely thank you.
Don't worry, I was only a baby when it came out in theaters, but I got to watch it when I was little on VHS (back when the VHS format was still new). Though the film wasn't a commercial success back in its heyday, it became a classic in its own right. At least when "TRON: Legacy" hits DVD, the original will also be re-released on DVD for those who don't have the two-disc edition (I was lucky to get the two-disc edition a while back). Honestly, to quote Edgar Wright, the director of "Shaun of the Dead" and "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World", "Most people are upset that newer people haven't seen a classic movie. But, for me, I kinda envy them when they do, because they are experiencing it for the first time."
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-23 12:46:51 +0000 UTC]
Very true- what you said about old movies. Though I don't recall finding a VHS of Tron out this way, even though I remember Star Wars from an early age.
As you said I guess it wasn't really a blockbuster but has grown into a cult classic.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-23 16:19:52 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I remember the VHS case for it. It was in one of those white plastic cases made of thin plastic, and had this inside the clear plastic slipcover: [link]
Honestly, I know of a lot of movies that weren't blockbusters, but have become cult classics/classics in their own right (like how it occurred with "TRON"). Amongst some of them include John Carpenter's "The Thing" and Ridley Scott's "Blade Runner" (both lost out at the box office because they were released at the same time as "E.T."), Walter Hill's "Streets of Fire", "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension", "The Evil Dead", "Pink Floyd's The Wall" and "Heathers" (just to name a few).
Honestly the most recent film I can think of that didn't do well at the box office, but was destined to become a cult classic is "Scott Pilgrim vs. The World" (seriously, when that was released in theaters on the same weekend as "The Expendables", I told one of my classmates, "It's not 'Scott Pilgrim vs. The World.' It's more like 'Scott Pilgrim vs. The Expendables'.") Now, I cannot help but have read a lot of comments for clips from that movie on YouTube where users have said, "MAN! I wish I had seen that one in the theaters!"
But back to "TRON", I think part of the reason why it became such an iconic film is because it was released in a time where technology was starting off. Arcades were big things, person computers had just been introduced to homes and hope of future technology was becoming an interesting thing (such as the introduction of the CD player, which a player itself originally cost at least $500 and was meant to be an extension of your home stereo system). Of course, it was one of the first "cyberpunk" movies if that term best fits. When it comes to "TRON: Legacy", it pretty much reflects (as Lora put it at the San Francisco event) "the future has come and is here." The Arcades are rare (I know of only one that still exists which is not a part of some sort of "fun place" where they have go-karts and such), now you can play video games on the smallest devices possible (as pointed out by Alan from the same event) and big time companies like Encom are now a dime a dozen. And, as strange as it sounds, digitization does exist in our world (not exactly as portrayed in the film, but Jeff Bridges stated that when he was getting his face scanned so that his face could be "de-aged" for CLU, he realized that he was being "digitized" like Flynn had been in the first film). The Grid in "TRON: Legacy" is basically what is known as a "sandbox program" (or a "sandbox game"), where a person can do anything (such as create items, manipulate the digital environment and such).
Honestly, if the film hadn't done at all well at the box office, I'm sure it would have been a "cult classic" in its own right and not just because it was a sequel to a cult classic already. But I'm hoping that whatever happens for the next film, that they at least keep the trifecta of Dillenger vs. Flynn & Bradley (like how it was in the first film). I'm actually hopeful to the point where I'm listening to "Finale", the track from the soundtrack to the film, on Grooveshark.
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-23 17:29:23 +0000 UTC]
You have a great knowledge of 80s classics. I only learned about a lot of titles like 'Blade Runner' and 'The Evil Dead' once I started studying Graphic art and looked at the influence of pop-culture.
In a way CGI animators design sets inside the computer and introduce and manipulate the actors in the environment so it really is extraordinary what is being done.
Tron Legacy is great in its own right but having a background knowledge of the original characters makes the things that happen to them in Legacy more meaningful and adds dimension to them.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-02-24 22:07:56 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm an '82 year model myself, so I would know a lot about the movies I grew up with.
The funny thing about the original "TRON" was that not all of the film was done in CG. Most of the "sets" that we see were done with hand-drawn animated plates. It's actually kinda funny, since by looking at the film you wouldn't really know it.
I agree. Having some info on the characters before going into "TRON: Legacy" made it somewhat of a great thing. My cousin, who never even seen the first film, saw "TRON: Legacy", but I told her she should watch the original so that she has a clearer idea on what happened to Flynn.
Here's a little something funny that's "TRON" related: [link]
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-02-25 09:50:55 +0000 UTC]
Some of the scenes from the original Tron were very well done considering that.
That link is quite funny, describing everything on the screen detracts from the drama.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-03-14 01:55:39 +0000 UTC]
Hey! I don't know if you have checked this out or not, but I heard about this via Ain't It Cool News. This is suppose to be on the upcoming DVD, but someone's released it early: [link]
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-03-14 06:52:42 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes a friend of mine sent me this link.It is quite exciting! I'm looking forward to seeing more of RAM and Alan for that matter.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-04-09 16:49:08 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, well, it's like "Star Wars". You notice how a lot of fan films involve space craft and saber battles? Well, that's what dazzled the fans the most. And basically, for "TRON", the thing that dazzled fans the most are the light cycles and disc wars (seriously, if you looked on YouTube, you'd find more people saying they liked the light cycle scene from the original more than they did the whole movie).
The ficlet that I would adapt is the one I showed you before with Jet. All I had was an idea a short fan film that would have featured your character's voice and would have been a reworking of the ficlet's initial core story (a son having issues with his father). Honestly, if I did do it, I'd have you do the voice of Angela and give you credit for the use of your character.
But like I said, I doubt I'll do it, primarily because people think of the light cycles and disc wars when they hear "TRON."
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feralkin In reply to codebreaker2001 [2011-04-10 15:42:54 +0000 UTC]
It is a pity that we are so easily dazzeled by special effects but I am still sure there are a lot of people out there who will eventually grow bored of it all if they don't care about the plot or characters.
Aw, Angela deserves better than my voice! But thanks for proposing the idea nonetheless. I think the main problem would be my accent which I can only describe as a mixture between the British and New Zealander accents.
Still if you went ahead with the short film you'd be free to choose whoever you imagine would be suitable for her.You mustn't feel discouraged that no one would view such a ficlet on YouTube because I'm sure there are some people who would appreciate it.
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-04-11 05:53:20 +0000 UTC]
True on that. For me, my belief in any story is character and plot first, then the genre and the flashiness. Honestly, I believing doing effects old-school (model miniatures, matte-paintings, on-set effects) first. And if I can't do something old-school, only then would I resort to using CG. With "TRON" fans, I think most forgot that the first film was mostly done with hand drawn panels and some actual animation (like the logic probe and the Grid Bug sequence for example), with only certain sequences using CG. For me, if I did took Jet's story further from his apartment and had to have him inside a computer system, I would probably do some test shots with miniatures just to see what they'd look like. But primarily, my declaration of intent is character and story always. But I like the character pieces because it helps give you a view of the character's world, sometimes before or after a certain event. In the case of Jet, it'd probably be before Ma3a pulls him into the situation I sort of have in mind.
Sorry, I didn't check your profile to find out where you're from. Honestly, I originally considered doing sort of a split-screen chat thing, where we look at what appears to be Jet's desktop with him and Angela chatting via iChat, which probably would have been more difficult.
Well, I don't know if I will or not, especially since it'd be me just filming myself with my Canon T2i. But if I do, I'd definitely would hold a casting call for the voice of Angela and get your opinion on which one you think sound like her (especially since she's your character and you probably have a certain type of voice in mind for her). But I would have to write the scene with you so that I at least know I'm getting her dialogue right just as much as I'm getting Jet's down (and if I did, I'd give you co-writer credit and "Angela Bradley created by" credit. I always give credit where credit is due).
The funny thing is this: the ending, though I had the idea of Ma3a calling Jet (literally a 'call to adventure'), I'm not sure if Ma3a's dialogue from the "TRON 2.0" game can be extracted (especially without the musical score as the line I want to use is Ma3a saying, "Alan Two, I require immediate assistance).
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codebreaker2001 In reply to feralkin [2011-04-13 04:37:34 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. But serious: story and character comes first for me. Old school then new school.
I agree. It's weird how pop culture exists and reaches people, no matter where they are.
I know what you mean about work causing delay to fan work. I myself am still doing photo touchups for a club gig I did a couple of weeks back.
I know you don't about how to extract them. But I've begun looking into it, to see if they're wave files that can simply be removed and use without music. Like I said, I'm not sure if I'll do the short, but I always like to know what my options are during the decision process. For example, though I had the idea of the short ending with Ma3a calling Jet, I've considered on changing it to where it turns out that it's Yori (Cindy Morgan's character from the first film) that is calling (especially with a lot of people wanting Yori to be in the next one). And I've even toyed around with another idea, where after the phone conversation between Angela and Jet, to which Sam Flynn is brought up, Jet gets out the "Flynn's Arcade" token and has a flashback about being at Sam's place and recalling "the day video games died." (using footage from T:L). The idea is just rolling and I just like to have the options available to me if I proceed.
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