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Yeah, I actually did it.I dared to speak ill of a pairing.
I dared to express an opinion different from the one of somebody else.
Thus, I deserve to burn in the flaming pits of Hell itself all the way through after the end of the eternity.
No, just kidding, I didn't to anything wrong.
Except for copying Inuki1 motivational poster, but I didn't even download it: I re-created it with the program, then I used it to make this other motivational. I needed it to prove my point.
IMPORTANT: THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-RIN RANT. I AM AGAINST BASHING, AND I PERSONALLY LIKE RIN VERY MUCH. FRIGGIN CUTE, AND CAN YOU NOT ADORE HER?
I noticed that, for some reason, there happen to be many people thinking that Sesshomaru is in love with Rin.
I'll try to keep it simple: HE IS NOT.
He is a sort of father figure to Rin, and he never shown any kind of romantic interest in her. He feels affection, but not love.
And, seriously, last time we see her she is 11. That's obscenely young even for Feudal Japan! In that time it was commons for a woman to have experience when she was 14-15, but a girl could not be considered a woman if she hadn't had her period. Last time I checked, girls don't start their period when they are 11, unless something is wrong.
Does that mean that this pairing depicts Sesshomaru as a filthy pedophile? Why, yer, of course it does! Eeven if he never used violence, it would still be statutory rape.
Rabid SesshoRin fangirls say that "they might fall in love when she will be grown-up!". One thing at the time:
1) If you aknowledge that this "might" happen "when she is older", "after the end of the series", you can't say it is canon, because you admit it's just what YOU personally think MIGHT happen in a never-seen, never-mentioned future.
2) It would still be Sesshomaru having sex with a girl he has grown as if she was his own daughter, and thet he literally saw growing up. That's hardly any less sick and wrong.
Finally, rabid SesshoRin fangirls state that he cried for Rin, but not for Kagura. Skipping that Kagura was actually shown to have feelings for him, skipping that when Moryomaru insulted her we saw Sesshomaru absolutely livid for the first time (worse tha when Inuyasha cut his bloody arm off), skipping that Rin herself ships SesshomaruXKagura, thinking they could be her new parents, there is another detail.
Sesshomaru is a bastard, but he also is a demon of honor, a noble warrior, and of a nobleman he possesses the pride (he IS a prince, after all): when he saw Kagura die, he was hurt, but he thought she died for a good reason. She was a warrior, fighting a war, and she died as such; not to mention that he saw she was happy to die like this, and he was satisfied in seeing she became wind, fulfilling her wish.
But Rin was an innocent soul who had no part in that fight; he would have already disliked such a things, for it was not honourable, but at that point in the series he had learned to care for other people /right because he suffered for Kagura's death), and Rin got killed for his own greed, stubborness, hybris and lust for power.
So, like they say: ship and let ship, right?
Yes, but there are two details:
1) I am merely responding to an opinion expressed. Seeing Inuki1 blocked me, to keep me from telling my opinion, I can only do such.
2) IT'S FUCKING PAEDOPHILIA WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT, DUDE! WE CAN'T LET THIS PASS FOR SOMETHING GOOD AND LIKEABLE, LET ALONE RIGHT!
Rin, Sesshomaru & Kagura (c) Takahashi Rumiko and all the other rightful owners.
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I never seen their relationship as familial or romantic. I do imagine Rin being train by Inuyasha and the group so she can defend herself. By the time she reaches her teenage years Sesshomaru becomes the ruler of the west just like his dad. However things start to off in Japan again. This time we'll see Sesshomaru with Rin, Jaken, and others join together to stop whats happening. For Sesshomaru, he would develop a new found respect for Rin and began to see her as an equal. Like their bond is based on platonic trust and respect What do you think?
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I've never seen anyone complain about this ship being pedophilia, but I've seen people complaining about Trunks and Mai being pedophilia. And personally, I see Sesshomaru and Rin as having more of a father/daughter relationship.
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The paring is CANNON to the story
The love he feels for Rin will CHANGE form over TIME as he is an immortal Demon and ages very slowly but time moves VERY quickly for a human such as Rin and besides HE DOES give Rin the CHOICE to go back to his side or to stay in the village and live as a Human. and dont even go there with the age difference its no different for Kagome and Inuyasha as Inuyasha is like 250 years old in the story as well.
Also in the Feudal Era the women are like 13-14 when they are married and some already have children by the time they are 15-16. so your response is just miss informed on the matter
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It's kinda true though. Reminds me of Renesmee and Jake, in Twilight. Same thing.
Still like the pairing. RinXSesshomaru forever!
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But the thing is...if you say it's 'sick and wrong' for even the prospect of them becoming a couple once she's an ADULT, then you have to think ANY pairing in fiction or fantasy that involves a human and a non-human hundreds/thousands of years old is wrong and sick too. Inuyasha is over a hundred years older than Kagome, but them being together is perfectly fine. Likewise...a demon/vampire/elf/whatever character who falls in love with a human character (even if the human is a teenager or older when they meet) is still a child chronologically when it comes to someone who's lived for centuries.
If you think the idea of them becoming a pair when she's grown up is gross and choose to interpret their relationship as purely surrogate father/older brother figure, then that's certainly your choice and I'll never attack anyone purely for having a different opinion...but don't call other people 'sick' for having a different opinion. Hopefully no one thinks they're in love when she's a CHILD, but when she's an adult...well, I'd think the bigger hang up about this potential pairing would not be the fact that he knew her as a little girl, but the fact that he turns into a giant white dog. lol
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... *manly tear* ...Oh wait, I'm not a man. Or a boy.
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I hate this pairing also. Plus I'm just gonna leave this here....
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I can't believe people still don't understand this pairing. Literally NOBODY is saying they were romantically involved during the time the anime took place--pretty much any fanfiction you're going to find is set well into the future. Everyone is shipping an adult Rin with him. I'm not sure that I've EVER come across a pedo age range fanfiction for this pairing.
He also didn't care about Kagura as much as you seem to think he did. Sesshomaru was going to let Kagura be washed away by the river she was floating down in that episode where she's hurt and floating down river (can't remember which one) until Rin tries to save Kagura. Only when Jaken tries to get Rin out of the water and both of them are unable to get out the water does Sesshomaru grab all of them. He felt bad for her (that's for sure) and pitied her but he certainly didn't love her, nor was he on his way to loving her. Rin never shipped them--all she did was mention that she thought Kagura had a crush on Sesshomaru. That's it. She never had some dream of them becoming her parents because she was happy with Sesshomaru and Jaken as things were. So, no, Kagura/Sesshomaru was NOT canon. Kagura had feelings for him (without a doubt) but he certainly didn't have them for her. He was empathetic but that was it.
Then, at the end of the Final Act, apparently Rin had been left to live in the village with Kaede. Sesshomaru clearly visited her multiple times and gave her expensive gifts, indicated by Kaede saying something to the effect of "Sesshomaru gave you ANOTHER gift?" to Rin, implying he's been giving her lots of things. In that time period, guess what giving expensive gifts to a person implied? Courting. In that time period, girls tended to get married MUCH earlier than they do now, so it wouldn't be too farfetched.
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I want your references on where Rumiko says that Sesshoumaru and Rin were considered "Father/Daughter" (because I've discussed this with a Japanese friend of mine who likes InuYasha but has no preference on Sesshoumaru's love interest *I lived in Japan for 4 months might I add* and she said that Rumiko never addresses it even though she searched the Japanese web for me).
And I also want your references for where it says that Sesshoumaru gives her a kimono only on her birthday. If you don't have references or proof from a credible source, I will, and so should everyone else on here, rightly assume you are making up things to help your cause.
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No creo que pongan ese tipo de cosas en una serie animada donde la ven inocentes, por que yo veía esta serie cuando tenía 13 o 14 años y mi hermana pequeña la veía conmigo mi hermana pequeña tenía 5 años. Yo no era la única quien veía la serie también amigas/amigos míos también veían la serie ellos eran de mi edad otros eran más pequeños que yo. Yo en todos estos años que he visto la serie nunca he visto a Sesshomaru ver a Rin de manera romántica, sino más bien como una hija a quien cuidar y a quien proteger salvandola de los peligros... como dije antes si Sesshomaru se sintiera atraído por Rin que tan solo es una niña pequeña si se sintiera atraído sexualmente por una niña sería un pedofilo. Por eso digo que no van a poner ese tipo de cosas en una serie animada donde la ve gente grande y niños pequeños, tu eso lo verás normal pero la gente eso no lo ve normal en ningún sentido, de todas maneras la propia Rumiko ya ha dicho que la relación es de padre e hija.
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Amiga yo te recomiendo que busques las entrevistas que le hicieron a Rumiko, en esas entrevistas dice que su relación es de padre e hija, o también como te dije si tienes a tu amigo japonés pues dile que se entreviste en persona con Rumiko y que le diga la respuesta... ese japonés que te conté el vive en los Estados Unidos y fue a Japón por asunto de trabajos. Bueno el con otros otakus tuvieron una entrevista en persona con Rumiko le preguntaron sobre la relación de Sesshomaru y Rin, la misma Rumiko dijo que su relación es padre e hija. Como te dije esa persona me contó esto solo a mí y otras personas de confianza también me contó que su amigo japonés no va por ahí diciendo que se ha entrevistado en persona con Rumiko ni lo va diciendo por redes social ni por Internet, el solo se lo ha contado a esta persona que es su amiga a sus familiares y a gente de confianza con el... Además esta persona y su amigo japonés se alegraron de que Rumiko les dijera que la relación de Sesshomaru y Rin solo es padre e hija. A ellos no les gustaba verlos como pareja, por que dijeron Sesshomaru estuvo cuidando de Rin protegiendola y siempre salvadola como un padre o como un guardián el nunca la ha visto de manera romántica... como ellos dicen si Sesshomaru estuviera atraído por Rin que es una niña pequeña si estuviera atraído sexualmente sería un pedofilo eso no solo lo piensan ellos muchas personas con quienes que he hablado también piensa a sin es normal que piensen de esa manera. Ha ellos les gusta más ver juntos a Sesshomaru y Kagura ya que ambos son adultos y son demonios también tienen mucha química juntos.
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Amigo si me crees o no a mi da igual, además su amigo japonés si se entrevistó con Rumiko en persona y Rumiko le dijo que la relación de Sesshomaru y Rin solo era de padre e hija. Ella dijo que ningún momento se le ocurrió emparejarlos en un futuro... También me contó esta persona que su amigo no fue el único que se entrevistó con Rumiko, también se entrevistaron otakus que estaban desesperados por saber la repuesta y Rumiko les dio la respuesta. Su amigo no va por ahí contandole ha todo el mundo que el se entrevistó con Rumiko ni tampoco lo va diciendo por Internet, el solo se lo dijo a esta persona que su amiga a sus familiares y gente de confianza solo a ellos a nadie más am también me dijo que le trajo autógrafos de Rumiko. Como te conté antes varias personas hablaron conmigo ellos vieron varias entrevistas que les hicieron a Rumiko, y en las entrevistas le preguntaron a Rumiko que si Sesshomaru y Rin son pareja o que si iba hacer algún romance... Rumiko dijo como respuesta que no, que su relación solo es de padre e hija. Tu no dices que tienes un japonés pues dile que se entreviste con Rumiko en persona.
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Sorry but no amount of explaining will convince me unless there is a credible and traceable source.
And if Rumiko really did come out and say that it's not canon? I seriously would not give a damn. I would accept it and move on with my life AND STILL SHIP SESS/RIN. Just like people ship Sesshoumaru and Kikyo, or Inuyasha and Sango. It's fiction, not rocket science. We should all be able to ship who we want without bashing (unless it's flat out child pornography! Which most sess/rin shipments are NOT). The only time I care what other people think about pairings is when they insult my own. To be honest? I don't hate the thought of Kagura and Sesshoumaru and I don't hate the thought of Kohaku and Rin. What I hate is when my pairing is bashed and labeled unnecessarily.
I never said it was canon, just that it was left open to have the potential of being canon (which writers do ALL THE TIME to keep momentum up for the fan bases and to not piss everyone off)
In fact, "canon" is a very funny term to begin with because manga artists are forced to obey their editors and marketers a lot of the time. If they create a chapter that would no doubt kill sales of the series, the editors will make the artist rewrite it. So I have no idea why people are focused on it being "canon" or "not." The fact is, is that I have SessRin fanart that looks very very canon.
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Varias personas me han contado de ellas vieron entrevistas que le hicieron a Rumiko, y en las entrevistas le preguntaron a Rumiko que si Sesshomaru y Rin son pareja o que si iba hacer algún romance... Rumiko dijo como respuesta que no, que su relación es padre e hija, incluso una persona me lo confirmó por que resulta que su amigo era un japonés y su amigo tuvo que ir a Japón por asuntos de trabajo y su amigo se entrevistó en persona con Rumiko. Y su amigo japonés le preguntó a Rumiko que cual era la relación de Sesshomaru y Rin, Rumiko le dijo como respuesta que su relación solo es de padre e hija, si la propia autora ya ha dicho que esa es su relación pues habrá que aceptarla y yasta... Además yo siempre lo he visto a sin como padre e hija.
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Sorry, but it is strange that someone actually met with her and didn't record her or post it somewhere on the Internet. If you can find these "facts" and prove that they aren't just lies, I'd be more willing to believe you.
Lo sentimos, pero es raro que alguien realmente se reunió con ella y no registró su o publicarla en algún lugar de Internet. Si usted puede encontrar estos "hechos" y demostrar que no son sólo mentiras, voy a estar más dispuestos a creer usted.
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Also, for anyone who thinks this isn't an acceptable archetype in Japanese literature or theme:
The Tale of Genji - guy who saves girl on battlefield, falls in love with her, and then raises her until she's of marriageable age to be with her (takes place in the past like Inuyasha).
Memoirs of a Geisha - Chiyo/Saiyuri met the chairman when she was maybe 8-10 years old, ends up being with him by the time she is 20 or so.
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I'm guessing you haven't heard the Inuyasha drama CD that was released by the Japanese Inuyasha anime voice actors, with the blessing of Rumiko Takahashi?
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Vamos haber el CD Asatte solo fue echo de manera especial para los fans de la serie, Rumiko solo dio permiso para que siguieran con la historia... pero ella no escribió la historia ni ha dirigido el guión ni tampoco las grabaciones. Por lo yo se y me han contado Rumiko no está de acuerdo con el lolicon.
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Sesshomaru y Rin no son pareja y CD Asatte no es oficial y Rumiko no lo hizo.
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The Archetypal, Logical, and Sound Reasoning Behind the
Sesshoumaru and Rin Pairing
This paper is a well-developed and researched piece of persuasive literature that is meant for all who look down upon the shipping of Sesshoumaru and Rin from Rumiko Takahashi’s acclaimed series, InuYasha. First, I would like to highlight that I am not some teenage fangirl locked away in her room. I am a post-college graduate with a high salary job and with a fixation on human psychology, literature and creative writing/storytelling, and logical reasoning. For me, I need proof and sound arguments to be swayed. So, for all others who share the need for logic before being convinced, I will gladly sit here and explain to you why the distaste for Sesshoumaru and Rin as a pair is immature, uneducated, and simply narrow-minded. Please see the convenient list below for the major points regarding the argument.
The Final Act Scene and Japanese Courtship History – While many can argue that Sesshoumaru’s giving Rin her kimonos in the Final Act is an act of fatherly love, or just simple care, it is very unusual for such nice gifts to be bestowed. Do you realize, that over the year or two that Rin was traveling with Sesshoumaru, she was only given one replacement kimono for her torn-one (from when she was attacked by wolves), after that replacement, she kept the same kimono for the length of the series. While this can be attributed to the fact that she hadn’t outgrown her orange squared one yet, or, simply, that Rumiko wanted us to constantly remember which characters were which by not changing their attire, it becomes obvious by Kaede’s words in the Kimono Scene of the Final Act that Rin was being lavished, not just cared for. “Did Sesshoumaru bring you something again?” This implies an undertone. Kaede is surprised to see such nice gifts being given to Rin, and so often at that. And this leads me to a reference,
“Exchanging of Gifts. Throughout all of the history of courtship, it is likely that the presentation of gifts by the groom-to-be to the object of his affections or to her father is one of the surest methods of winning approval— and in earlier cultures the idea of a lavish betrothal gift meant a great deal more than it does today. In times past, the suitor felt that part of himself was being given to his beloved and her family. In Japan, the sending of presents to the bride by the groom is one of the most essential aspects of the marriage ceremony. Once the gifts have been received by the bride and accepted, the marriage contract is considered complete and neither party can withdraw from the union,” (Strange Customs and Taboos, 2008).
It is a fact that in past Japanese Courtship, kimonos, and nice ones at that, were given out of courtship or extreme care. By the time that Rin goes to live in the village, she is approximately 9-10 years old (when she was first introduced in the second season, she was clarified to be 8 years old according to Inuyasha Wiki. Inuyasha Wiki also states that the length of the series in their time was about 2 years. This is where I derive her age. *don't believe me? Look at Rin's orange kimono right when they find Goshinki and notice the length of it. Go to the Final act and see how much shorter it is on her*). Making her 12 or 13 by the time we see Sesshoumaru giving her the nice kimono at the end of the series. Age for women to begin courtship in old-age Japan was much lower than what is accepted in the present. Here is a source for you: “The age of first marriage for women was much younger than it is today, although it rose toward the end of the Edo period. This was because girls began serving for a number of years as housemaids for aristocratic families and large landowners,” (Love and Marriage in the Edo Period, 2007).
The InuYasha Drama CD – If you are firm believer in the filler episodes… AKA Jaken Falls Ill, The Woman Who Fell in Love with Sesshoumaru, and Forever with Lord Sesshoumaru, then the InuYasha Drama CD should be proof enough in the Sesshoumaru Rin pairing. While the premise of the CD is very hysterical and not really believable, the relationships between all of the characters remain as constant as they did in the series. Sesshoumaru threatens to kill Jaken, Jaken mentions contentment with Sesshoumaru and following him until the end of time, Kagome and Inuyasha have stupid spats, Miroku and Sango are slightly temperamental, Rin is very mild-mannered towards everyone, and, the only truly surprising relationship difference is Sesshoumaru’s proclamation of his regard about (when he is speaking to Jaken/his father), and to Rin. While the setting isn’t convincing, the relationships are. Meaning that the relationship portrayed between Sesshoumaru and Rin is meant to be believed as well.
“But Rumiko didn’t write it! It isn’t canon!!!” And, you are correct. It isn’t canon, just like the filler episodes mentioned above are not canon. HOWEVER. Rumiko gave her blessing on the fillers and the Drama CD. So let that be what you make of it.
The Immaturity behind the “Pedophilia” Idea – If you are hung up on the fact that all of these sick fangirls who ship this pairing are inspiring pedophilia, then you are sailing on the ship of delusion. MOST SessRin shippers are shipping on the premise of Rin growing up into a woman. And if even this fact doesn’t sit well with you because of the knowledge that Sesshoumaru watched her grow up, and it’s “just plain weird,” then I have three points for you to recognize.
1. Sesshoumaru leaves and comes back. He is not with her all of the time after leaving her at the village. This gives both parties time to grow into themselves and to realize what life means with and without the other. This is the crucial phase for them both as Rin matures both into a woman and into a concept of affection to Sesshoumaru.
2. Someone in your life has made the 20 year marital jump. Once a woman hits 20 in modern day, it is not entirely unacceptable for her to marry a 40 year old. And what’s more, divorced parents tend to make that jump in second and third marriages. Oh, and if we compare Sesshoumaru’s human year maturity at 19 (according to InuYasha Wiki), to Rin’s 8 (according to InuYasha Wiki) upon meeting, then when she is of marital age around 15, he is ONLY 26 YEARS OLD. Get over the jump. It’s not as high, nor as uncommon even today (though much more common in the past), than what you think.
3. Izayoi and InuTaishou – I’m going to let that sink in a moment... How do you suppose that worked in a completely moral relationship? Sesshoumaru is mentioned to be around 200 years old and he is still “young.” That would mean that InuTaishou was easily 400 years old or more when meeting a young 20 year old-ish (which is a conservative number for old time Japan, might I add) Izayoi. So what have we have learned today is that demons have to be cradle-robbers when coupling with humans. End of Story.
Rin, in Terms of Popular Japanese Media – Rin is often described as the “Loli” of the InuYasha series. And that is very much correct. Loli’s, or Lolita, aka young and cute girls, are important in anime because they have played crucial roles in developing the major characters of the series. And let’s be honest, with so many characters, you have to have a young girl somewhere that is given the same level of respect as any of the older characters. And in this series, Rin is given that respect by way of her kind spirit and her ability to develop and melt Sesshoumaru’s cold heart. Her purpose for the series was to get Sesshoumaru to a place where he could accept healing Tenseiga and be able to wield it as a weapon appropriately. But, it is also accepted in Japan for a Loli to be the subject of romantic interest (sadly).
Archetype in Literature/Manga – One of the major archetypes used across the board of Literature is the “Melting of a Cold Heart.” Let’s think about some popular ones for a moment, “Beauty and the Beast,” “Wall-E (invert the female and male roles),” “Mulan,” “Kamisama Hajimemashita,” “Wolf Girl Black Prince,” “Blue Spring Ride (Orange Manga).” They all have one thing in common. The warm-spirited girl melts the cold-heart of the boy and they end up falling for each other. The canon pairing of Sesshoumaru and Rin meets all the archetype requirements EXCEPT for the proclamation of “physical and romantic love,” which means the reader can imply that final step because of past archetypes.
Kagura and Sara, why neither would have been proper Love Interests – This one is short and sweet. Kagura, indeed, fell for Sesshoumaru, but it was not reciprocated. Sesshoumaru would have left her to die if it weren’t for Rin and Jaken jumping into the river after her to save her. Note that he only took action once both of his followers were in danger. Kagura later became an object of empathy. Perhaps if she would have survived they could have had something more, but Sesshoumaru’s feelings towards her were warm, though platonic, when her life had ended. Sara was just a sad case overall. She fell in love with him on sight, played her flute, and gained his sympathy. The same form of love speculation, though not near as validated, as Kagura. However, those two potential love interests have something more important in common as well…. They both fell for Sesshoumaru without truly knowing or adapting to his personality. They both fell shallowly in love with him. Rin, however, was able to get to know him, and was able to love him for who he was and who he wasn’t by way of their time spent throughout their travels.
This about sums up my two cents on the matter and I hope you all realize just how validated our shipping for the pair truly is. It’s easy to think of our own culture and our own time and to put a big fat “NO WAY” on the possibility. But when thinking of Eastern-Medieval culture, it makes more sense than not to ship Sesshoumaru and Rin.
P.S. A Little Extra Convincing
Foreshadowing – “It seems he has inherited one of his father’s more odder traits,” –Sesshoumaru’s Mother
Foreshadowing/History Repeating Itself – It is assumed Izayoi was the only human resurrected by InuTaishou with Tenseiga as his “something to protect.” Rin is the only human that Sesshoumaru resurrects.
Voice Actor of Sesshoumaru (Japanese) – claims that Rin was the only person Sesshoumaru ever seemed to truly love
Happy Shipping,
XeraQuick
References (too lazy to properly MLA)
web-japan.org/tokyo/know/marri…
www.unexplainedstuff.com/Super…
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The InuYasha Drama CD – If you are firm believer in the filler episodes… AKA Jaken Falls Ill, The Woman Who Fell in Love with Sesshoumaru, and Forever with Lord Sesshoumaru, then the InuYasha Drama CD should be proof enough in the Sesshoumaru Rin pairing. While the premise of the CD is very hysterical and not really believable, the relationships between all of the characters remain as constant as they did in the series. Sesshoumaru threatens to kill Jaken, Jaken mentions contentment with Sesshoumaru and following him until the end of time, Kagome and Inuyasha have stupid spats, Miroku and Sango are slightly temperamental, Rin is very mild-mannered towards everyone, and, the only truly surprising relationship difference is Sesshoumaru’s proclamation of his regard about (when he is speaking to Jaken/his father), and to Rin. While the setting isn’t convincing, the relationships are. Meaning that the relationship portrayed between Sesshoumaru and Rin is meant to be believed as well.
“But Rumiko didn’t write it! It isn’t canon!!!” And, you are correct. It isn’t canon, just like the filler episodes mentioned above are not canon. HOWEVER. Rumiko gave her blessing on the fillers and the Drama CD. So let that be what you make of it.
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Sesshomaru y Rin no son pareja y cuando el CD Asatte yo y gente que conozco lo hemos investigado y te voy a decir lo que es. El CD Asatte son "episodios" extra grabados en un formato de audio por lo actores japoneses, publicado en un CD. Son la parodias o la sátira de la serie original, no se encuentran en ningún real canon o continuidad. No son oficiales. Los dramas fueron lanzados en múltiples formatos: Como CDs independientes, como suplementos de la prima con los lanzamientos de DVD japoneses o tocadas en la radio en proframas de radio, Sátira busca lo que significa sátira.
Mucha gente sabe que el CD Asatte no es oficial ni echo por Rumiko tampoco.
Conozco también a unas personas que han hablado con japoneses, y estas personas le preguntaron a los japoneses que si el CD Asatte es oficial y que si Rumiko lo había echo. Y los japoneses les dijeron a estas personas que todo Japón sabe que el CD Asatte no es oficial y que Rumiko no lo hizo ni los oficializó.
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También, Kagura está muerto, así que buena suerte con eso.
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Usted no me dijo nada de lo que yo ya no sabía.
Sé que Rumiko no les hizo. Yo sé que no es canónico.
Sin embargo, Rumiko dio su bendición en la grabación final. Ella tiene que aprobar todo lo que ella posee para que sea capaz de ser vendidos abiertamente. De lo contrario, podría reflexionar sobre su mal. El hecho es que ella aprobó la versión final. Lo que significa que ella no estaba totalmente en contra de la idea.
También, Rumiko es conocido por haber sido en los mítines que apoyaron "Lolicon" en el manga. Así que ella no está en contra de ella.
En mi opinión, Sesshoumaru no es un pedófilo. En mi opinión, él y Rin podría estar involucrado románticamente cuando sea mayor y después de que él la ha dejado en el pueblo por un tiempo.
He vivido en Japón y he tenido un amigo japonés estudian para mí también. Así que estoy bastante creíble allí también.
日本語は難しいとへんですから。
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Though personally. I could never view sess as a pedophile. At most I could see him leaving for awhile, returning, and freaking out when he realizes that's she's no longer a child. I don't do pedo relationships. And if Sess actually acted like her father, I may have grown into that fandom. But he gives her one kimono and protects her from danger only (until the end). Other than that, Rin looks after herself. He won't even help her get food. And his emotional empathy is lacking. IMO, if he's a father figure, he's a pretty bad one... He is, quite literally, her lord. Someone who simply rules and protects.
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Oh and just in case you needed someone who's actually lived in Japan and understands the language better than I do:
SESSHOUMARU/RIN: WHY I BELIEVE A ROMANTIC INTERPRETATION OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS VALID AND REASONABLE. (Note: I'm not saying other interpretations are unacceptable, or romantic relationship is the only 'right' way to interpret them. I am saying that romance is ONE OF the ways they CAN be interpreted, and it is not totally unreasonable to see their relationship that way.)
1) RT does not have anything against lolicon, and is, in fact, a supporter of lolicon (or at least, the right to write lolicon pairings in anime and manga) as evidenced by her showing up in Tokyo to protest a law that was purposed which would ban the production of lolicon in Tokyo. (SEE: )
Also, lolicon is defined as 15 and under in romantic relationships, and Kagome is 15, while InuYasha is 250 years old at minimum. (Sesshoumaru is 19 in 'human years', according to his Japanese Language character profile, and as shown in the InuYasha companion guide book, released in English as well.)
2)The mythology (which, RT is clearly very knowledgable about Japanese mythology due to her level of detail in depiction mythological creatures/legends in InuYasha, even down to the myth that tripping and falling in the woods is what would provoke wolf demons (ookami) to attack and kill you* and that is how Rin died) of the Inugami/Inumochi stating that male dog demons are able to be 'tamed' (only by human females, known as Inumochi, or 'dog-witches') into being protection spirits by offering them food* (Rin offered Sesshoumaru food, and considereing she had to bring more each day, and there were no 'leftovers' from the day before, we can infer that Sesshoumaru WAS in fact eating it, although his pride would never allow him to admit that aloud), and those male dog-demons become incredibly attached/bonded to their human women, and oftentimes romantically. Women with an out-of-control possesive dog demon would actually have to have them exorcized sometimes, to get them to leave them alone because the male dog-demons would kill would-be husbands, out of jealousy.
and* (for more detailed information on the relationships and legends of specific relationships between inugami and inumochi, please buy one of the many great books on the subject. Japanese Mythology A-Z by Roberts is good, and there are many more if you search.
3) The fact that in the Japanese language character profile for Rin, it is stated openly that Sesshoumaru LOVES Rin, and the kanji used is that of Shitai, which means 'to love deeply, to adore, to YEARN FOR' - this is NOT a paternal or familial or even a platonic kind of love. It is *almost* always used to indicate romantic feelings for someone, and frequently used for romantic feelings that one must wait to act upon (such as in the situation where two people were engaged to be married, but had to wait to be married in order to be together, or a woman waiting for her husband to come back from war, etc.,) which COULD, in THEORY indicate that Sesshoumaru is waiting for Rin to grow up before he acts on his romantic feelings for Rin.*
[link: and in case you don't know enough Japanese to navigate the site, go down to where they show each character next to a blurb (the inu-tachi is on top) and then click on the second from left yellow square to get the Sesshoumaru-tachi... or just look at this cap for help: )
（りん）殺生丸を慕い行動を共にしている人間の少女...
慕 The Kanji used in Shitau (minus the hiragana 'u'), and, as it is in the character blurb, 慕い Shitai)
Shitau or Shitai means, 'to adore', 'to love deeply', 'to yearn for', and 'to miss' as well.
3a) More telling though, is what words are NEVER used. When Sesshoumaru's mother refers to Rin being Sesshoumaru's 'beloved person', she does not use any of the words that would specifically indicate paternal feelings. She does not call her a 'beloved child', or a 'beloved daughter'... Instead, she uses one of the words for 'beloved' that can be taken either way, and THEN follows it up with, "You have inherited your father's strange trait and become like him," or you could also say, "You have become strange like your father by inheriting his trait," where the trait being referred to is understood to be his love for a human girl.
If RT wanted to end the debate immediately, she could have simply had Sesshoumaru's mother call Rin his beloved child, 愛し子 (itoshigo), or 愛児 (aiji), or beloved daughter. 愛嬢 (aijou) or 愛娘 (manamusume). She could have had Sesshoumaru himself refer to Rin as a daughter, or have Rin refer to Sesshoumaru as a daughter would a father. It would have been easy to clear it all up once and for all by writing a scene where Rin asks Sesshoumaru if he will be her father, now. Of course, he'd refuse, but at LEAST we would know Rin feels like Sesshoumaru is a father to her.
3b) Also, we have the situation in the third movie, which, while not directly written by RT, is considered to be part of the official canon by most, including word of God from the studio. The villain's sword (the sword could also arguably BE the villain), fights Sesshoumaru. Then a bit later he kidnaps Rin. Takemaru holds his blade above RIN'S head and says, "She is Izayoi... they are both Izayoi", and while we do get a camera pan to see Kagome's horrified face, it is RIN the villain tries to kill as Izayoi's effigy; he was clearly talking about HER when he said "she is Izayoi" the first time. It could be argued we saw Kagome's horrified face, to see her reaction to the villain saying that "Rin is Izayoi", because that has great implications for what Rin's relationship to Sesshoumaru is, and Kagome is reacting to finding out Sesshoumaru loves Rin - and/or we're just seeing her reaction to seeing Rin killed (well, saved just in the nick of time by Sesshoumaru. XD).
Later on, the villain Takemaru makes a pointed remark to Sesshoumaru, and says, "When these blades touch, I know all your secrets." It can EASILY be interpreted that he's talking about Sesshoumaru's 'secret' feelings for Rin, and, that knowing this secret is why he chose to go after Rin to get to Sesshoumaru, given the context.
3c) Many times Rin is compared to Kagome, who is in love with InuYasha.
In Jaken Falls Ill, it's even played with that Rin may be 'smitten' with a demon. Rin doesn't know what the word 'smitten' means, but it was clearly meant to tease the audience a bit.
In the final one minute of episode 99, "Sesshoumaru and Kouga: A Dangerous Encounter" Kouga sits musing that he guesses Sesshoumaru doesn't hate humans after all, and then begins to speculate on why Sesshoumaru allows Rin to follow him. He says, "If she were a pretty girl like Kagome, then I'd understand but... Hey, wait... You don't think...?" Hikaku and Ginta immediately rush to cover Kouga's mouth, while *sweatdropping, saying, "No! Don't say such a thing aloud!" It is left to the viewer to fill in the blank, which is not uncommon in Japanese language/culture. Things that are uncomfortable or awkward to speak of are left unsaid, but are CLEARLY understood by everyone involved.
4) The fact that the class difference would not mean they could not be together, as women could marry above their class and the man would retain his station with no dishonor. The fourth Tokugawa shogunate's mother was a merchant's (the lowest class in Japanese society at the time) son. His father was the 3rd Tokugawa Shogunate, and he married a common girl, and it was accepted. It was unusual, but at least 3 times in notable history, a nobleman took a common woman as his wife. (You can see this information in this documentary (not sure which part it is, but it's here somewhere: www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcfge… )
5)Literary Precendent: The adult man/young girl (in waiting, until she was about 13, which was marrying age in sengoku jidai era) romantic relationship has been a staple of Japanese literature since literally the FIRST novel in recorded history, 'Tale of Genji', which featured a nobleman (an arrogant, womanizing, asshole with daddy issues and a bad temper), who found a nine year old girl on a battlefeild, saved her life, kept her with him for about a year (where, he fell in love with her, amidst his womanizing), so then he gave her to an old woman* to raise her and train her in the ways of women and how to be his 'perfect wife' and he came to collect her for marriage when she was 13 years old. Genji/Murasaki is a classic romance story in Japan (yes, it's romance, depsite the fact Genji starts out as quite a bastard, it's generally accepted that he learns to love due to Murasaki's gentle heart, and because of his love for her, he stops womanizing and being such a bastard by the end).
The story is largely misinterpreted by those with little to no understanding of Japanese culture as a story where Murasaki is somehow abused. Such is not the case. The deflowering scene, much like even modern-day Japanese erotica might read like a rape scene to someone who doesn't understand Japanese culture and sexual politics, but IT'S NOT A RAPE SCENE. Women were and ARE actually supposed to resist and cry and say 'stop, no please!' BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED 'FEMININE'. It also puts all the responsibility on the guy, thus saving the woman any embarrassment from sex. It's not HER fault, because HE FORCED HER... Thus, she doesn't have anything to be 'ashamed' over... If she just happens to end up liking it, well... No one has to know that.
Also, people who do not understand Japanese language frequently misinterpret this old woman to have been her actual grandmother, because 'obaasama' is used, however Japanese language uses familial titles even for unrealted people, who are of the proper age that they could be the person's grandma/uncle/older brother/older sister/daughter/neice etc., Any random teenage boy a little girl meets can be called by the title 'oniisan', and a young girl would call any random old woman she meets 'obaasama', even if they are unrelated.
6)The age difference would not only be fine, but EXPECTED in samurai and noble Japanese culture. Noblemen almost always had very young sexual partners. PEDOPHILIA WAS CONSIDERED TO BE THE MOST PURE AND HONORABLE FORM OF LOVE (which, again, you can read that little bit of info at the link I provided at the end of this), and a SACRED TRADITION.
Females taken by older men as concubines or brides were known as osanazuma 幼妻 (lit. "intimate playmate"), and frequently young girls (especially those born into concubine or courtesan status) were trained in the erotic arts starting as young as 8 or 9 years old, so they would be good concubines, courtesans, or wives, by the time they were 13 years old.
To quote:
"No one would would question why a powerful man ofn noble station would take beautiful youths to his bed, they would instead question why he did not."
The male/male version of Adult/Child sexual relationships was known as Wakashudo (the way of young men), and the gender neutral version of adult/child relationships was known as 'bi-do' or 'The beautiful way'.
You can find more information on the systematic practice of pederastic relationships (in the male/male version (the most noted type of pederasty, although it happened between men and young girls as well), the child made sure for about five years that the adult was 'worthy' and then started a sexual relationship with them when the child was around 11 or 12 and it didn't end until age 18 or 19 formally, but oftentimes it remained a life-long realtionship) in noble Japanese culture HERE:
To quote:
“A young man should test an older man for at least five years, and if he is assured of that person’s intentions, then he too should request the relationship… If the younger man can devote himself and get into the situation for five or six years then it will not be unsuitable.”(5)
It would appear that this process would have had to start at an early age indeed, since such relationships formally ended at the time of the coming-of-age ceremony, usually around the age of eighteen or nineteen. At that time the youth would receive the tonsure (a cutting of the forelocks to simulate a receding hairline, a symbolic grasp for status in a society in which people to this day compare birth dates in an effort to establish pecking order) and become available in turn for taking the role of the adult in other shudo relationships. As in ancient times however, the partners would usually remain close friends even after the end of the pedagogic/erotic phase, and some of these relationships did not dissolve with the passing of time, becoming instead life-long love affairs.
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And obviously the CD doesn't count as canon. But Rumiko never said which way Sess/Rin would go. She has never come out and said that it was or wasnt
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Except for the fact it's not. Skipping the fact that Inuyasha, despite being a century-old demon, still has the body and mind of a young man, him and Kagome got married once she reached legal age. It was confirmed. SesshoXRin, on the other hand, was literally confirmed by Takahashi to be JUST a father-daughter relationship.
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