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Description You heard Kenshiro: stop the bashing, or you'll get the Fist of the North Star up your rectum.
Seriously, how many people there are out there, thinking that the best way to spend their days is to start an hate-mongering campaign against people who don't exist?
Like Inuki1, who seems to hold an irrational hate for Kagura, calling her the "Wind Bitch", all for the sake to pair Sesshomaru and Rin, ignoring that Sesshomaru is a father figure to Rin, and that if he was to have his way with her, he would be a filthy pedophile; apparently, Inuki1 thinks that affection equals love, even when it defiles every common sense. Yes, Sesshomaru screamed when he thought Rin was death, but simply because he had just learned how to feel compassion. How did he learn that? By watching Kagura diyng right in front of him, without being able to save her, that's how!
Inuki1 also tends to ignore that Rin herself thinks Sesshomaru and Kagura should be together, and shows kind of a crush on Kohaku.
Inuki1 also says that Kagura is "Evil and manipolative": yeah, it's totally her fault, it's not like there is an evil demonic nutjob that literally keeps her hostage and coul kill her at will at any moment. And also, it's not like she uses every chance she gets to help Sesshomaru, helping saving Rin.
She is not evil, she just wants to be free from the rule of Naraku: I think it's pretty understandable! Plus, when Moryomaru insulted Kagura, Sesshomaru hit him so hard he broke Tokijin, and harmed Moryomaru's armor, which was thought to be invincible.
When I told her those same exact things, she canceled my comments and blocked me, because she is afraid of freedom and democracy. She is clearly a very insecure person, and can not live with knowing that people have the chance to disagree with her.
Then we have Splashgirl04, which is to Winry Rockbell what Inuki 1 is to Kagura: she created her own OC, and made a horrible stamp talking about how said OC slaughtered Winry Rockbell; I explained that this thing was futile (being Ed not real and all), and that Bashing was wrong; her answers were comments full of insults and mockery, with no point or argument whatsoever. She also hid both my comments and her answers, out of genuine fear that somebody could actually share my opinion and telling her an opinion she wouldn't like.
She also hates Kagome Higurashi, calling her a Mary-Sue: as it often happens with bashing, the canon characters are called "Mary-Sues" without being one. A Mary-Sue is an overly-idealized character, who never makes any mistake, and whose power and backstory are equally idealized and/or go against every rule of the story she is part of. We all know Kagome is neither of those things.
Among her favourites, we can list a deviation who rejoices for Winry's death (again), a stamp saying that "EdXFangirls" is right and the Canon is wrong (I shit you not, my fellow deviants), some anti-abortion stuff (not to get political, but saying that the Fetus is more important than his mother's physical and mental health, because he is a potential life while she is an actual life, is utter, self-contradicting bullshit), a stamp against immature comments (really fucking hypocrite, seeing how many immature comments she uses), a stamp against hate (again, hypocrisy like there was no tomorrow) and a stamp saying that it's wrong to block comments who gave you a polite disagreement (HYPOCRISY, Splashgirl04 is your name!). Finally, she blocked me, because apparently polite, logical, rightful and truthful disagreement freaks her out.
Now, after a rant about two bashers I have personally been in contact with, let's get down to some of the worst treated girls out there.
Inoue Orihime, from "Bleach": she is hated because she doesn't want to fight, and she keeps screaming "Kurosaki-kun!"; first of all, being pacifist is not being weak. Red-Hair Shanks, Vash the Stampede, Afro Samurai, Saito Hiraga, Shunsui Kyoraku, Retsu Unohana and Kenshiro himself (just to name a few) try to avoid the fight, except when it's the only possible way to solve things, but they are not weak. They are some of the most unstoppable badasses out there. And Orihime is not "weak", either: she is technically nearly omnipotent, being able to cancel every wound, create unattackable shields, cutting everything and even stopping the will of God Himself. And when she screams "Kurosaki-kun"... well, I might be wrong, but it could have something to do with the person he loves being in deadly danger to protect her.
Haruno Sakura, from "Naruto": she is treated like one straw short of a complete imbecillle, all because of the first series, where she is kind of obsessed with Sasuke. Then, Shippuuden came out, she went toe-to-toe with an Akatsuki (only helped by an old woman), and shown to have grown a lot as a character, becoming ungodly powerful, and physically stronger even than Tsunade herself. But still, she is ignored, and treated like she is some kind of incompetent, whiny little idiot, especially by SasuNaru and NaruHina. I myself am a NaruHina, but I do believe it's pretty clear by now I am not bashing her. Plus, she is one of the few character who actually manage to make a scratch on Pain, while all the rest of the village could barely ruin his clothes, and Naruto has an hard time against him, even with the Kyuubi chakra and the Sage Mode.
Hyuuga Hinata, from "Naruto": she is hated because she is shy and insecure, and this makes her weak. No, continue to fight even against her own weaknesses doesn't make her a "weak character", makes her one of the strongest willed ones. She faced Pein's strongest body face-off, refusing to give up, all to help Naruto, and during the battle with the Juubi, she made a massacre of enemies.
Seras Victoria, from "Hellsing": let's get out from Shueisha, and venture in the trigger-happy world of Kohta Hirano, aka "The Manga's Quentin Tarantino" (but he actually managed to out-Tarantinize Tarantino himself). She is called a slut. Flas news: being a prostitute and being a virgin can not co-exist. She is virgin, thus, she is not a slut. She is weak at the beginning because she still feels human, and even Alucard (of all people) says that there si nothing wrong with that. Even before becoming a complete vampire, she defeated Jan Valentine and his army of Ghouls, and held her ground against the Dandy Man. When she completes her growing, Alucard is actually proud of her.
Mai, from "Avatar - The Last Airbender": I'll be short, here. She is hated just because Zuko makes all the fangirls wet, and she managed to have his "fruit tart".
Kairi, from "Kingdom Hearts": she is called a bitch for "getting in the way" of the SoRiku pairing. It doesn't make sense: the entire first game was pretty much Sora and Riku fighting to win her heart (literally, at a certain point)! Plus, even is they were gay (which they are not), she would only want them to be happy, and she would stay their friend. They would hate to see her hurt in anyway. She is also called "useless": well, excuse her for not being as ungodly powerful as two guys who hold the strongest weapons in the Multiverse! Except that she now has her own Keyblade and is going to learn how to use it.
Gilda, from "My Little Pony: Friendship is magic": I can't believe how she is still considered a Villain, a worse one than Discord, no less. They allowed him to repent, but they didn't allow HER. The only thing she did wrong was wanting to spend some time with a friend she hasn't seen in years, and getting angry for objectively annoying pranks done by Pinkie, although she was obviously not pleased. Okay, she could have avoited to threaten Fluttershy or to steal apples, but that's not even comparable to what other characters did. He reactions were exaggerated, but still normal for any human being (or... Griffon being, or something).

Those were just a minimal part of some of the most notorious and atrocious examples of Bashing, but there are thousands more. If a perfectly good and likeable character exists, you can be sure someone will create repulsive art to hate him for no senseful reason.
Stop the bashing: spread the love for fandoms, not the hate.

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Comments: 87

MercenaryX [2016-12-20 07:43:18 +0000 UTC]

YES!

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tea78iscool In reply to MercenaryX [2017-12-21 23:10:32 +0000 UTC]

Sakura i could understand..But seras and the other female characters Β that's a huge awww *** no!!!! I really can't stand seras haters they just hate seras because Β they srsly think seras is ruining they're Β stupid alucard x integra ship and alucard x integra is not canon and alucard x seras is not canon too

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MercenaryX In reply to tea78iscool [2017-12-22 02:51:55 +0000 UTC]

What?

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tea78iscool In reply to MercenaryX [2017-12-25 00:09:14 +0000 UTC]

I don't really hate sakura anymore I hated how kishi written sakura. Sakura could have been a awesome character. Β And im starting to find sakura haters annoyingΒ 

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MercenaryX In reply to tea78iscool [2017-12-25 00:15:23 +0000 UTC]

I kind of see what you mean.

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tea78iscool In reply to MercenaryX [2017-12-25 00:17:33 +0000 UTC]

I actually feel bad for sakura she deserved epic character development but she never get it I wanted her to get over dumb sasuke.....

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MercenaryX In reply to tea78iscool [2017-12-25 19:21:52 +0000 UTC]

If anything I am okay with her being with Sasuke, Just wish it was developed more. At least we see some of it with her and her daughter now.

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tea78iscool In reply to MercenaryX [2017-12-25 21:25:48 +0000 UTC]

That's true and agreed when I saw sakura as a mother i was happy sakura devolped as a strong awesome parent tough cookie

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masterofhorr [2016-12-04 12:11:38 +0000 UTC]

"And Orihime is not "weak", either: she is technically nearly omnipotent, being able to cancel every wound, create unattackable shields, cutting everything and even stopping the will of God Himself."

1) I know this is the context of the Bleachverse, but wut?

2). What does it matter if she doesn't fight often? Is she a good character? Is she well-written.

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gambzilla In reply to masterofhorr [2016-12-04 22:15:33 +0000 UTC]

1) Orihime's power is literally to repel everything, even the will of God Himself.
2)That depends of your definition of well-written. Is she consistent in her portrayal? Does she have a personality? Does she genuinely care for her friends? Does she grow and evolve as a character? Yes, she does all of this.

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masterofhorr In reply to gambzilla [2016-12-04 23:26:32 +0000 UTC]

1) Yeah, in the Bleachverse's rules. It doesn't mean she could repel the will of The Living Tribunal or The Presence or anything. But I digress.


2). Yes that's generally what I mean by "well written".

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Xykon-7549 [2016-07-06 18:07:22 +0000 UTC]

I hate METAL BAWKSES. Is that bashing irrational?

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TheAnimeLord2013 [2015-06-07 19:05:32 +0000 UTC]

you forgot the annoying Tea haters. I cant stand them because Tea is awesome.

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bookwormsteve [2015-05-29 05:18:57 +0000 UTC]

To quote the beatles songs let it be

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FelisLupus [2014-12-23 00:09:29 +0000 UTC]

That bio though

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harleyquinnsfunhouse [2014-11-07 03:01:26 +0000 UTC]

I agree some people have way to much time on their hands and just use it to suck the fun out of everything instead of just letting things be.

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Caesar9999 [2014-07-25 11:40:10 +0000 UTC]

I once made a Troll Fic called "Naruto Uzumaki and Issei Hyoudou save the World!" which was my successful attempt at mocking those guys obsessed with bashing Issei Hyoudou from High School DxD for being a pervert(who turns out to be both a decent person and a guy willing to risk his life in front of very dangerous threats for both his friends and lots of people whom he doesn't really know personally) and/or demoting him to Butt Monkey status after having an OC/crossover character mostly Naruto-in-Name-Only take his place and do just as many perverted things with the harem the self-insert takes from Issei, all while taking away the parts that showed Issei Hyoudou IS a badass by having the replacement do them instead.

Because of that I got flamed a LOT. One guy who couldn't accept any criticism or arguments when I PM'ed his review of my story was Fairy Tail Dragon Slayer, he said thisΒ "That is against the rules, horrible grammar can get stories taken down VERY quickly." and thisΒ "If you bother responding, I will just block you.Β There was no point to you sending me this PM, so kindly go fuck yourself."

He really was a douche

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Gokussjdensetsuno45 In reply to Caesar9999 [2016-12-11 20:13:17 +0000 UTC]

Fairy Tail Dragon Slayer?

The guy who wrote a full character sheet full of bullshit claiming that Naruto could curb-stomp fucking Son Goku and the Dragon Ball universe as a whole?

That Fairy Tail Dragon Slayer?

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Caesar9999 In reply to Gokussjdensetsuno45 [2016-12-11 21:10:21 +0000 UTC]

Yup, he even banned me when I responded to his review/flaming on a PM

www.fanfiction.net/r/10531949/…

It happens a lot to me whenever I review a fic that does a lot of bashing, overpowered, edgy, asshole, INO MC's and an obsession with harem polls.

I make a review, they respond with an angry PM, I try doing a quick debate to see who's right and wrong, I'm accused of being as bad as hitler and they ban me to prevent me from speaking again both through PM's and reviews.

I think they also make an effort to delete negative reviews that actually criticise them while labelling it as 'flaming'

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Gokussjdensetsuno45 In reply to Caesar9999 [2016-12-11 23:42:53 +0000 UTC]

He call you bad as Hitler just because of a mere satire?

Wow . . .

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Caesar9999 In reply to Gokussjdensetsuno45 [2016-12-12 11:11:59 +0000 UTC]

Okay, let's just say there's no way to win if not to in the end just avoid them altogether.

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Caesar9999 In reply to Gokussjdensetsuno45 [2016-12-12 00:49:57 +0000 UTC]

Well the person I was talking to, the maker of this fic

www.fanfiction.net/s/11732282/…

May actually be really really young which explains his edginess. Well he also accused me of tolerating children being beaten to death by angry mobs even if it's both fictional and just plain bashing.

It's something I've encountered plenty of times on FFN, they make the excuse of it all being "fanfiction" and if we don't like it then we shouldn't read it let alone criticise it.

Which is a stupid thing all on its own, we all have the right to criticise things we do and do not like. Whether we're right or wrong, it's freedom of speech and being unable to tell insults from criticism can show what kind of person someone is

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Gokussjdensetsuno45 In reply to Caesar9999 [2016-12-12 21:18:27 +0000 UTC]

I examinated the kid's profile just to see what kind of cancer could I find.

I noticed he wrote a particular story called Naruto.exe, where Naruto is saved by herobrine and Sonic.exeΒ  . . .



Β Β 

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Caesar9999 In reply to Gokussjdensetsuno45 [2016-12-13 00:45:54 +0000 UTC]

His picture creeped me out.

Also, where'd you get that?

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Gokussjdensetsuno45 In reply to Caesar9999 [2016-12-13 02:58:22 +0000 UTC]

Add media > Emoticons > Search β€˜Time to stop’

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Caesar9999 In reply to Gokussjdensetsuno45 [2016-12-13 03:30:42 +0000 UTC]

Okay thanks, also what's your pic? Because it looks like Sasuke

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Gokussjdensetsuno45 In reply to Caesar9999 [2016-12-13 04:38:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it's Sasuke.

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AdrenalineRush1996 [2014-05-22 05:04:17 +0000 UTC]

You got a good point, also Asami Sato from Avatar: The Legend of Korra gets bashed too. I like her and I don't like how some fans bash her and blame her from taking Mako away from Korra, when in actual fact is the other way around.

Also, Skye from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been labelled a Mary-Sue by some fans, which is ironic as her name when she was at the orphanage is in fact Mary Sue Poots.

Several Arrow fans bash Laurel Lance as well since I read a lot of comments on Digital Spy saying "I hate Laurel", "Laurel must die" and many more, which I think is disrespectful.

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masterofhorr In reply to AdrenalineRush1996 [2016-12-04 12:12:49 +0000 UTC]

Skye essentially IS the closest thing the show has to a Sue

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AdrenalineRush1996 In reply to masterofhorr [2016-12-04 16:13:41 +0000 UTC]

Actually, Skye (or now under her real name Daisy) got rescued from the scrappy heap when Agents of SHIELD had grown the beard by season two, so she's no longer a Mary Sue. Her characterisation improved after season one.

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masterofhorr In reply to AdrenalineRush1996 [2016-12-04 17:08:13 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough

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TheAnimeLord2013 [2014-03-23 16:44:07 +0000 UTC]

I met a Winry cosplayer at Dragon*con, and grown to like her ever since. I best recommend ppl who do bashing to go to a convention and talk to a cosplayer dressed as the character you have a burning hatred for, and she/he will respond in character to your questions, and you may grow to like them.

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Drakohahn [2014-03-17 20:30:32 +0000 UTC]

I've seen so much hate, for both characters and the shows they come from in general, that I can't even bring myself to do hate at all. Don't get me wrong, I dislike quite a bit about certain characters and shows, but I never begrudge them for it.

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Caesar9999 In reply to Drakohahn [2014-07-25 11:43:27 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you. But to be honest there are only a few characters I hate and that's cause sometimes characters like Tsunderes get REALLY annoying when it's practically shown most of their thoughts and feelings are almost always concerned with the MC. Or when their too sociopathic or Complete Monster-ish to stand like those guys in Akame Ga Kiru. Or assholes whom I come to hate because their too racist, religious fundamentalist, too much Black and White Insanity, morally myopic and extremely hypocritical

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CrashValentine [2014-03-16 14:18:09 +0000 UTC]

Notable example, Lucario there a stupid guy who kills lucario in his videos. with full hate.

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TheAnimeLord2013 [2014-03-05 22:33:14 +0000 UTC]

I noticed Jean Grey from X men and wonder girl get a lot of backlash. People call jean grey a bitch, slut, and they say she ruined the X men. She ain't no storm, but Pheonix, her other form can bust galaxies and her haters, too.

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TheAnimeLord2013 [2014-03-05 22:09:34 +0000 UTC]

The same comment I said could be applied to my fave char in FMAB, Olivier Armstrong. She only acts mean and cruel at times is because she had a traumatic childhood, although never explained in the manga or anime, let's just say Mrs. Armstrong favored Alex over her and Mrs. Armstrong beat Olivier like a dog when Olivier was a child. If my mother had abused me in the same manner, I would be cold and heartless just like her. Olivier does tend to redeem herself after the promised day, though.

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TheAnimeLord2013 [2014-03-05 22:02:32 +0000 UTC]

Although I disagree with the bashing, I do sympathize with the villains of those series. I sympathize with Azula because she is misunderstood and has had mommy issues. I want her to join the gaang so badly. And I want her statue in Republic City at The power plant! RC would have even more beauty with Azula's sexy body watching over the power plant! If I saw Azula's statue in RC, I would have a fangasm big enough that I would cry tears of love.

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Caesar9999 In reply to TheAnimeLord2013 [2014-07-25 11:44:24 +0000 UTC]

I bet you wouldn't be able to sympathise with most of the villains from Akame Ga Kiru

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DeitiesorDemons [2013-12-01 22:27:06 +0000 UTC]

Wow, the people you mention in your description are really sad! Why be so hateful toward a character? They were just doing what the writer told them to! lol!

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Mobiusfan [2013-10-27 06:50:37 +0000 UTC]

I like the looks at the commonly bashed. You do the creators well with your insight.

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gambzilla In reply to Mobiusfan [2014-07-27 22:46:36 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I had no idea I did something that good. Could you link this thing to other people?

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Mobiusfan [2013-10-27 06:48:39 +0000 UTC]

When it comes to bashing. I am simply tired of people creating ship that should have never be thought of simply because they dislike the alternative. My theory is that this is the basis for yaoi. If the girl (usually) cannot have the boy, they no other girl can, even with cannon relationships, or at least sexuality.

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gambzilla In reply to Mobiusfan [2014-07-27 22:45:44 +0000 UTC]

Sad, isn't it?

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HollowMephiles [2013-09-30 06:13:33 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU!

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gambzilla In reply to HollowMephiles [2014-07-27 22:45:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh, it's nothing ^^

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soojinyeh [2013-08-23 12:40:00 +0000 UTC]

"Like Inuki1, who seems to hold an irrational hate for Kagura, calling her the "Wind Bitch",Β "


Which is proof that Kagura is the canon love interest. Think about it. If her love for Sesshomaru was so clearly one-sided and it's so obvious, then why is Inuki so jealous of her? Why is Inuki so resentful towards her? Because as much as she verbally denies it cause she doesn't want to admit to it cause she's jealous, she knows deep down that Sesshomaru was confirmed to have feelings for Kagura by tenseiga when it transformed into a fighting weapon cause of his feelings for her.


Some ses/rin fans will even mock her death and say they're glad she died, that's how low sess/rin shippers are.

And the fact that Rin in never bashed by Sess/Kagura fans shows that she is not a threat. because if Rin is the canon love interest what's with the complete lack of bashing, and lack of resentment towards her? It's cause she isn't threatening-and don't give me that it's cause she's a kid. Shippo is a kid too and everyone bashes him.

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gambzilla In reply to soojinyeh [2013-08-23 13:04:43 +0000 UTC]

Kudos to you, my lady!
I never said Kagura IS the canon lover; I am, myself, a SesshoKagu shipper, but objectively, it is not confirmed. But still, My point is that there are serious hints and we can see ad probable in the manga; it does make sense and, while not confirmed at canon, it's implied as such.
SesshoRin not only was not confirmed as canon, but their father-daughter relationship was; plus, as I mentioned, paedophilia is disgusting.

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soojinyeh In reply to gambzilla [2013-08-24 01:33:00 +0000 UTC]

It was proven not to be a romantic thing in nature when Rin was turned into a sess/kagura shipper, plus they clearly said at the end they're returning her to a human village. But the fangirls twist it around to be "oh she's gonna choose to be his wife later on!" when there's no evidence of that at all.Β 


Sess/Kagu is cofirmed Β by most to be semi or implied canon at the very least, even TV tropes recognizes this, unlike sess/rin which is considered by most to be father/daughter.

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gambzilla In reply to soojinyeh [2014-07-27 22:45:00 +0000 UTC]

Too bad it didn't end well for Kagura... even though, Sesshomaru's mother still has her Meidou stone...

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