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doitforfun077 [2017-12-22 01:25:47 +0000 UTC]
This is great! Congrats. 👍👍👍
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CLCanadyArts [2016-04-11 06:59:21 +0000 UTC]
Very nice, though the "stupid whales" kinda threw off the feeling for me in the end, removing "stupid" would leave the original feeling intact, at least to me. Still like it though!
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Potatojam [2014-12-12 02:55:22 +0000 UTC]
This made me cry.Cause its so deep and true. You rock!
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Whalesarewsumatid [2014-03-30 23:20:20 +0000 UTC]
cant we just all be whales though? then we will be 'saved' and we will be awesome
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FishingforKitty In reply to Whalesarewsumatid [2014-05-24 22:48:29 +0000 UTC]
if we are all whales no can save us because whales cant do anything help each other in that way and if we are all people needing to be saved some one can mutually save someone and have that person save them as well and then we try to get to others
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LordofStupidity [2013-08-15 21:20:41 +0000 UTC]
I actually agree with . This jumps too rapidly, and will that's how conversations are, it's just too cluttered.
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Frumpelstiltskin [2013-08-09 06:14:25 +0000 UTC]
*reads nonsensical arguments on page and trolling comments*
Well, anyways...I like it.
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thalliume [2013-07-10 09:55:34 +0000 UTC]
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PencilCharmer8 [2013-07-01 03:08:25 +0000 UTC]
Plz come to meh page.... I'm new
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lzepplinlove [2013-05-06 18:43:43 +0000 UTC]
too good :3
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thefoxysquirrel [2012-12-29 09:37:42 +0000 UTC]
I am stunned that this, ahem, "work," has more than a single view.
This "work" is a disjointed mess. There is no discernable idea, no central theme. The closing comments about whales have nothing to do with the vapid jawing the characters do only moments earlier. It is utterly meaningless.
Hating yourself? Falling in love? Whales?
"I laugh so I won't cry, yet that doesn't save me when I'm alone. I try to save the world simply because I can't save mysel-"
I defy anyone to tell me what this sentence means, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU WHO ENJOYED IT. I dare you to try.
On second thought, DON'T. IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
Now I know why the art of writing is dying a slow and agonizing death. It isn't because people are writing garbage like this. IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE READING IT. For the life of me, I can't tell what people are seeing in this tripe.
Maybe I should write a short, nonsensical dialogue between poorly defined characters. I can mention the word "love" a few times, throw in some quotes I find from a hipster's facebook page, and just for good measure, toss in a reference or two of an endangered animal. Bam. Instant success.
Only difference will be that my endangered animal wont be a whale. It will be a COMPETENT WRITER. MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY AND SAVE SOME OF THEM!
That is all.
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LDM-Arts In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-11-08 00:41:18 +0000 UTC]
If you don't mind, I'd like to reply to your comment.
You see, I believe that anything that is "disjointed" or seems like a mess can be still be considered art, even if you don't fully understand its context or meaning. The dialogue may be random, but it's only one of the characters who speaks randomly, so maybe he (let's assume the gender) is one of those people who talks frequently because they have too many thoughts to express. And let's assume the other character is a female, who only seems to act happy to keep others from worrying about her.
"'I laugh so I won't cry, yet that doesn't save me when I'm alone...'" basically means something like, 'I laugh to hide my sadness from other people, but laughing doesn't make me feel happy when I'm alone'. And the second part of the girl's dialogue is just referring to one of the male's previous statements, "'You want to save the world, you want to do some good,'" yet she is also trying to say that she wants to save the world BECAUSE she can't save herself.
What the author is trying to say is that we shouldn't only be worried about endangered species, but also ourselves.
I would also like to say that this is my take on it, and even though I obviously have different views than you, I would appreciate it if you took the time to see my viewpoint as well. Thank you.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to LDM-Arts [2013-11-20 21:42:18 +0000 UTC]
I'm a psychologist. There's a saying in statistics that goes something like: "if you torture the data long enough, it'll confess to anything." I believe the same idea applies here, and with many works of art in general which were thought to be valuable simple because they were so cryptic or idiosyncratic. You betray your own mindset which is, unfortunately, similar.
The greatest works of art are not puzzles meant to be unlocked. Nor are they the incomprehensible musings of tortured souls whose genius we mere mortals cannot understand. Quite the contrary. Think of Michelangelo's David. We know immediately what the subject is, the theme, and in some sense the meaning, of the piece. Our wonder comes from the appreciation of the minute details of the work, the uniqueness of the themes and depiction of the subject, King David. All previous depictions of David were of a triumphant warror as opposed to Michelangelo's tense and nervous David prior to fighting Goliath. This kind of art does take genius - real genius! An ability to reinterpret the past, to say something meaningful, and to codify ones' thoughts into the LANGUAGE of art. What good is a language if it speaks to no one? We may also consider a hypothetical composer who claims to have written what is unequivocally the greatest symphony of all time - but it is in frequencies too high for the human ear to hear. Clumsy analogy, but the point is this: are we to take this "genius'" word for it?
Art that cannot be understood, art that is too vague, art that means anything to everyone is tripe.
A work such as the one we are discussing says nothing and means nothing.
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LordofStupidity In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-08-15 21:18:48 +0000 UTC]
This is really late, but I actually agree with you, to some extent. I mean, the topic goes from love to dreams to whales to saving humans. Like you said, it's a disjointed mess. Although, I don't think it was the smartest idea to be so blunt when you criticize people.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to LordofStupidity [2013-11-20 22:01:15 +0000 UTC]
It depends by what you mean by "smart." You imply that it would be somehow "smarter" to not be so blunt. However, these people are readily subjecting themselves to the criticisms of others. Is it not reasonable to expect, amongst a community of other artists, that some dissenters may appear?
I will also say that a large measure of my attitude is due to the idiotic deification of this tripe! If people have the right to gush over this garbage with more enthusiasm than a lesbian at a pink concert, why don't I have the right to state CLEARLY and LOGICALLY my reasons for betting the other way?
I get many messages asking me why I'm so "angry." I consider this a complement to my writing that my anger indeed shines brightly enough to illuminate the foggy stupidity that most DA users fumble around in. If it pisses off some tasteless hacks or fangirls... so be it!
You would think that an ART website, of all places, would be a haven for FREE SPEECH.
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LordofStupidity In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-11-22 05:10:36 +0000 UTC]
Criticism doesn't have to be dished out in the harshest way.
Yes, I know it's hard to make true criticism nice, but you don't need to flat out call it meaningless. I mean, that's just bordering insult and criticism.
I read somewhere that if one doesn't wish to be criticized, they should never show their work to people, especially the Internet. That is true most definitely.
I have no idea what tripe is. I'll go ahead and assume it means "trash".
No need to mention lesbians and Pink. Seriously.
You have the right to speaking your own mind, yes, but the way you say things just come off as rudeness and jerk-ness.
I wouldn't call you angry...More like a guy with good ideas that are said wrong.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to LordofStupidity [2013-12-02 06:56:45 +0000 UTC]
I appreciate that you have not attempted to disagree with any of my points... which you cannot. Instead, you disagree with my tone. Fair enough.
Id rather be CORRECT than nice. So whatever!
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chromareverie In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-06-02 06:06:11 +0000 UTC]
My friend, I know this idea is difficult to grasp, but please consider that the artist here is not writing to please you. She is writing to express a deep emotion that has been wrestled with by the worlds greatest authors for hundreds of years. Not even the famed playwright William Shakespeare, who expressed such elusive ideas and emotions so clearly and concisely, could not capture the true feeling of love in words. Now granted, in this day and age, language has digressed tremendously. This artist here is part of a noble cause. She is trying to salvage what is left of the dying art of writing. Here, she has captured a beautiful and seemingly intangible emotion. This piece may not be perfect, but it is surely beautiful as well as functional (a combination that writers strive for). It communicates a thought, a feeling, and it does so in a beautiful way. Now, whether the way she writes appears beautiful to you is entirely subjective. That is the most fascinating thing about art. Beauty is subjective, it is in the eye of the beholder. Now if you wish to waste your short time on this earth tearing down those who display their hearts so openly, then my friend, you are doing nothing more than furthering the death of the literary arts.
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Full-of-Ashes In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-05-05 04:11:39 +0000 UTC]
Geez! By using weirds such as moron and fool tells more about you as a person,
than about your meaning here. I can't take peoples like you serious when you try to write proper but you are just making nonsense. I don't understand why you have to attract that much attention of you disliking this writing. You, my friend, might be the fool here.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to Full-of-Ashes [2013-05-07 06:17:40 +0000 UTC]
And another fool volunteers...
can you respond to ANY of the points I CLEARLY stated with ANY subtance?
No, you cannot. This is why you prefer to insult me and my "nonsense" rather than refute my arguments and counter my opinions.
Thank you for confirming my original opinion of this drivel.
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TheTimeVortex In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-10-13 04:51:34 +0000 UTC]
I don't think there really needs to be point, and that IS the point.
This is what art is. Random, cluttered, nonsensical and just plain weird.
Merry christmas, and have a nice day.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to TheTimeVortex [2013-11-20 22:06:55 +0000 UTC]
You and I disagree in no small way about what art is. And the incrdibly tragedy of our time, which you so perfectly exemplify, is that with the wealth of knowledge resources at our literal fingertips... we are, as a society, so damned ignorant.
Study sometime. You might learn something -_-
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TheTimeVortex In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-11-20 22:12:12 +0000 UTC]
I will take this lightly, even thought I'm rather offended.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Let us part ways with out starting a fight.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to TheTimeVortex [2013-11-20 22:33:54 +0000 UTC]
You're only "rather" offended? Wow. I must be out of practice with my offensive skills! Because I would have hoped you were DEEPLY offended by what I said. Allow me to attempt again... ahem....
You exemplify the contemporary audience: ignorant of aesthetics, and beholden to the FANTASY of a subjective reality to the point that it destroys your ability to criticially evaluate their own thoughts!
For God's sake! Would you call a Debussy sonata "cluttered" or "nonsensical"??? Or a Bellini painting "random"???
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TheTimeVortex In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-11-20 22:35:45 +0000 UTC]
Again, thank you for your opinion.
As stated before, I am mildly offended.
This is because I really don't care what you say. You can think whatever you want, I don't care.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to TheTimeVortex [2013-11-20 22:48:34 +0000 UTC]
"Don't care." Meaning not at all? You obviosly "care" enough to respond not once, or twice, but thrice!
I certainly admit I care enough to respond because, in answer to your second question, every less ignorant audience member is a small victory for those of use who appreciate art of substance and meaning.
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TheTimeVortex In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-11-20 22:51:25 +0000 UTC]
I reply because it is polite.
And you're trying to offend me as a lesson in art?
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Full-of-Ashes In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-05-07 07:05:02 +0000 UTC]
Says the guy who thinks everybody is a fool.
Even thought you think are something doesn't mean you can say whatever you want.
And comments like that is not acceptable in any kind, except if the artist himself what critiques to their art. But usually you don't comment negative things about a art. That's what you just simply don't do. But of course there are some people who thinks otherwise. And needs to be tell ''stop acting like a child.''
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to Full-of-Ashes [2013-11-20 22:40:07 +0000 UTC]
Two aspects of what you ATTEMPTED to write betray the fact that you are a foreigner:
1) Extremely poor grammar
2) Ignorant of the concept of free speech
I can have whatever opinion I want, about anything I want. And in the US, I am free to express my opinions however I want, with limitations for the sake of others' basic rights.
Commenting negatively about art is what you "simply don't do"? Perhaps in your country they lack more than free speech. You also seem to have no concept of a movie critic, music critic, or art critic.
Try again, if you dare.
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KZeolite In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-03-22 10:54:44 +0000 UTC]
If you don't like it, that's fine. I personally enjoyed the prose I feel like I could connect to it; I always feel like people need to save each other. We all hate/love/like pieces, and if you don't, that's okay. I mean I personally hate Twilight.
However, you shouldn't express it in the way that you did. DeviantART is a place for artists to share their work knowing the fact that there will be free from discrimination (most of the time) and just plain rudeness. So yeah.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to KZeolite [2013-04-05 08:55:36 +0000 UTC]
"should not"
should and should not imply some moral code by which you are judging my actions. So... please... educate me. What moral rule of yours did I violate? Is that a personal feeling you have, or are you even slightly aware of what code you subscribe to?
Fool.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to CrumbledWings [2013-01-08 01:07:37 +0000 UTC]
Of course that's just you. You are a moron. This "work" is atrocious kitsch and those who are affected by it are morons.
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CrumbledWings In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-01-08 16:46:08 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes because calling someone a moron shows your astounding intellectual dominance
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143Am In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-03-09 19:07:46 +0000 UTC]
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but that doesn't mean you have to SHOVE IT DOWN PEOPLES' THROATS! I'm not saying you are not intelligent,(in fact, I'm sure you are,) but dA is supposed to be somewhere you can post your thoughts and art, and people will not judge you.
I understand that the author didn't follow the standard writing style, but it's up to them; they have the right to write however they wish. They don't deserve to get hate from people who don't appreciate their creations.
This is the internet, if you don't like something then just ignore it.
Personally, I think it is rather immature when people post hate online about things that they could just as easily ignore.
Have a nice day sir/madam, but please understand that everyone is affected by comments like this and belittling an artist who had the guts to post something they created does nothing more than make them feel unwanted.
How would you feel if someone posted such a spiteful comment on one of your photographs?
Probably not very good.
(Yeah, I know that I'm just ranting, and I may not have the best grammar, but this is how I feel about your comment and I have the right to inform you of it.)
Again, have a pleasant day, and take care.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to 143Am [2013-03-22 05:01:04 +0000 UTC]
you ignorant puke. every gripe you had with me you can APPLY TO YOURSELF.
This is the internet right? Don't I have the right to say whatever I want? If you don't like it, just ignore me...
Damn fool.
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143Am In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2013-03-22 05:17:08 +0000 UTC]
Yes I realize that.
You think I don't?
I just felt the need to stand up for the artist because I understand what it's like to have someone post such hateful comments on something I had once been proud of.
And yes, you do have every right to say what you want, but must you say it in such an insensitive, potentially hurtful way?
In reply to you calling me a "Damn fool", are we not all fools at some point in our lives?
Good day sir.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to 143Am [2013-04-05 08:56:59 +0000 UTC]
Must I? of course not.
Must we do anything? Must anything be done?
Of course not.
Fool.
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UzumakiPocky In reply to thefoxysquirrel [2012-12-31 06:14:48 +0000 UTC]
My, my. Here I was rereading this piece and you decided to pique my curiosity. I must say, I am now extremely interested in what you consider to be "meaningful" writing. I visited your profile in hopes of reading some of your own work, but was surprised to find that the account belonged to not one, but two talented photographers! I couldn't help but wonder if the two of you shared the same strong opinion regarding this piece, for fear of a misinterpretation or conflict surrounding your shared dA account. Once again, I would love to read a literary work written by you, in order to fully appreciate and understand your ideals.
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thefoxysquirrel In reply to UzumakiPocky [2013-11-20 22:46:13 +0000 UTC]
One doesn't have to be Claude Monet to appreciate Claude Monet.
"... in order to fully appreciate and understand your ideals."
Read any classic.
Fool.
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1ianda [2012-12-13 14:43:14 +0000 UTC]
Amazing
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Cvokhauz [2012-12-01 16:48:45 +0000 UTC]
Pure and true! Brilliant!
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