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Sigfriedofgaea [2013-06-07 21:32:44 +0000 UTC]
AWESOME! Seraphim are my favorite angels!
One Seraph happens to be the Devil himself...
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Sigfriedofgaea In reply to Graydrone [2013-06-08 11:08:44 +0000 UTC]
Lucifer.
Only when the best falls, the worst happens.
As the story goes, Lucifer was no normal seraph... he was God's right hand man. When God created man from dirt, and announced that the angels would submit to them, Lucifer and several other angels became indignant and rebelled. As a result, those angels were cast out of Heaven, and Hell was created.
People say that Hell is a place to be tortured. But really, the only thing torturing the people down there is the fact that they are now SPIRITUALLY separated from God, with no hope of ever re-uniting with Him. They now share this fallen seraph's shame and hatred towards God (yet Lucifer, the Devil, still manages to burn brightly as ever).
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deandemon9000 In reply to Sigfriedofgaea [2019-03-24 14:21:38 +0000 UTC]
Depends actually: Other interpretations have Lucifer be a cherub while others consider Lucifer among other famous angels such as Michael and Gabriel to be a rank above all the other angels and refer to the as Archangels (not to be confused with the archangels, the second-lowest choir). Also there is some debate as to what is a demon, considering some sources like folklore consider some creatures that can't be considered fallen angels as demons. Lastly calling Lucifer "the Devil" is also debatable due to some theories considering him a different individual from other figures in the bible that might also be the ones with that title, due to the fact they are given different roles and description and future punishments after the apocalypse.
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Sigfriedofgaea In reply to deandemon9000 [2019-04-03 22:01:48 +0000 UTC]
I believe that the interpretation of Lucifer being a Seraph is the most accurate, though. The Seraphim were God's most powerful creations. So powerful, in fact, they could stand to be directly in His glory, and burn with the resulting fire unharmed. Lucifer was the highest of God's angels, meaning he was higher than the other Seraphim that were there as well. Like I said before, he was God's right-hand man, so to speak. What this means, then, is that it'd stand to reason that he'd be God's most powerful creation.
It makes sense, though... say the whole world were against Lucifer. It'd still fall to him if it weren't for God. For with God, we become unstoppable. Lucifer has to then deal with infinity... which he can never hope to overcome.
The saying, "Evil prevails when good men do nothing," then makes even more sense in that context.
This is why there always seems to be a duality between good and evil... almost as though they'd be evenly matched. Lucifer is basically the furthest point one could be from God. But that's the thing... Lucifer, while very powerful, still pales in comparison to God because God created him and God Himself is infinite. God is still present everywhere.
"Also there is some debate as to what is a demon, considering some sources like folklore consider some creatures that can't be considered fallen angels as demons."
Fallen angels are still angels. Angels are not demons, and the two aren't opposites of each other. I think it'd stand to reason that demons are actually creations of Hell's angels... some of which were possibly sourced from Lucifer himself.
As for others bearing the title of the "Devil"... I haven't heard of such theories, so I cannot accurately counter such claims other than with my current belief that there's only one Devil, who is Lucifer.
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deandemon9000 In reply to Sigfriedofgaea [2019-04-07 20:03:55 +0000 UTC]
>"I believe that the interpretation of Lucifer being a Seraph is the most accurate, though."
No problem with that, I just wanted to state some of other interpretations as this is not the only one.
>"Lucifer was the highest of God's angels, meaning he was higher than the other Seraphim that were there as well. Like I said before, he was God's right-hand man, so to speak. What this means, then, is that it'd stand to reason that he'd be God's most poweful creation."
This is relevant to this "Devil" thing I said. Also Lucifer is not the most powerful of gods creations even if he was God's right-hand man, for one simple reason: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… . Anyways there are many figures in Judeo-Christianity that are considered second to god such as Michael (literally "Who is like God") Metatron ( who in jewish folklore is considered to be the highest of the angels) so Lucifer being the highest of angels is generally something debatable. It's more possible that Lucifer's description as the greatest of all the angels refers to other things than strength.
>"As for others bearing the title of the "Devil"... I haven't heard of such theories, so I cannot accurately counter such claims other than with my current belief that there's only one Devil, who is Lucifer."
Seven Princes of Hell, Look it up: For example "Satan" is usually considered to be the "dragon" of the revelation (aka the guy Michael curbstomps in the link above) who is considered the most powerful and destructive of all the Princes of Hell, but not one of the highest ranking ones and his fate after the end of the Apocalypse is to be trown in the lake of fire, not as a ruler but as one among the other demons. Lucifer is considered to be the "beast" to who the "dragon" gives power to, that managed to convinced 1/3rd of the angels to side with him and rebel against god and and his fate after the end of the Apocalypse is to be the emperor of (the now empty) Hell.
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Sigfriedofgaea In reply to deandemon9000 [2019-04-10 20:24:09 +0000 UTC]
St. Michael defeating Lucifer came about not of his own power, but because God was with him, of course.
Ah yes, I forgot about the seven princes. But what if they all described the same being, but were different forms?
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deandemon9000 In reply to Sigfriedofgaea [2019-04-10 23:34:45 +0000 UTC]
As I said the roles and post-apocalypse fates of the seven princes of Hell are all different. In fact Leviathan the prince(ss? Assuming we really can talk about genders for such existances. Whatever... that's not the point) of Envy is killed and given as food for the pure after it devours the souls of all sinners in hell ( damn... Heaven must have a really hardcore sushi-bar). So the Devil been killed, imprisoned as a common demon and becoming the sole ruler of hell at the same time sounds a bit hard to believe, unless we accept that the Devil has many natures like God but that would mean that that the Devil has more (7) natures than God (3) which leaves a very unlikely implication.
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Sigfriedofgaea In reply to deandemon9000 [2019-04-13 21:36:27 +0000 UTC]
Considering that the Trinity is canon but the seven princes aren't, I doubt much of that is even true.
What I do know is that the Devil has worn many masks over the course of history.
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Hunter2045 [2013-05-27 04:08:29 +0000 UTC]
Nice.
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omnishade00 [2013-05-26 22:25:10 +0000 UTC]
Hot
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Ravhasin [2013-05-26 20:42:41 +0000 UTC]
I luv dis
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N3m0ck [2013-05-26 14:07:20 +0000 UTC]
Looks like an adult Konata.
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SIERRA-116 [2013-05-26 13:27:44 +0000 UTC]
Now, I hope she's been infused with Demonic Energy, because she is so glompable!
It's funny, because there is a Covenant Exoatmospheric Multi-role Fighter in HALO called the Seraph... but, the Covenant Seraph has no wings, so it's rather amusing.
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Graydrone In reply to SIERRA-116 [2013-05-26 13:32:44 +0000 UTC]
ahaha no wings ahhha well at least it lived by it's rank as one of the highest XD
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SIERRA-116 In reply to Graydrone [2013-05-26 21:25:45 +0000 UTC]
Well, they were pretty damn tough, and missiles were useless against them while they had shields still up.
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devilsbloods [2013-05-26 12:28:17 +0000 UTC]
nice work dude, I do like the wings
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