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A series of gods of the secular. This is the modern god that people worship called Science.This is for the one who says, " I won't believe it unless one or all of my five senses tells me it exists. Show me!"
Man says, "Show me, then I'll believe."
God says, "Believe, then I'll show you."
As you can see, he has ape feet and hands. Of course this represents the idea of evolution.
God bless you all
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well - no matter how much i think it's drawn in best attention, i wouldn't say that science is 'god', not in christian sense of definition of god.
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I guess i don't explain myself well. But some people put all of their hope in science. When it comes to human effort, there is too much room for failure. So how can science prove there is a "God"... I don't believe it can... but science is a great thing in LEARNING to understand all that exists.
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well, so far no evidence has proved or disproved existence of god. believing in god is another matter, i won't go into that. but there is term in sociology, 'scienctisam' i think, a naive believing that science will answer all problems. as a rational person, i could say that won't happen in the near future, but i ain't a prophet. but people who claim it will happen for sure do exists, doesn't mean they are right.
also - all hopes in science is just stupid. where is love, eating, watching dirty movies and other cute things?
of course, science itself isn't guilty for what we do with it. but can be a lot of fun and good. (as well as the opposite)
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You're a talented fellow. I like what you did with the anatomy and posture, but the face could use a little more to it. After all, this is a comedic caricature, right? Go crazy with the exaggerations!
And yep. Believe something hard enough, and you'll see evidence for it everywhere. Like UFOs, government conspiracies, Santa Claus, and intelligent design. Ask any believer.
The problem with faith is that is grounded entirely in emotion, which is really, really subjective. People are quick to assign deep emotional experiences to "God." I remember looking at the stars as a kid, and I could have sworn I felt God's presence. Looking down at me, smiling, you know? I knew it was him I was feeling, just like I used to know it was Santa that brought the presents.
But after a while, things didn't really make sense from that perspective. God, like Santa Claus, was starting to seem less and less plausible. Take, for example, the Christian faith: His son, a human who is also himself (what the crap) has to sacrifice himself TO HIS FATHER WHO IS HIMSELF BY THE WAY in some grand master plan to save people from eternal torture. He then comes back to life, all "lol jk u gaiz," so whatever sacrifice he would have made is negated! All of this because a talking snake convinced two naked folks to eat a piece of fruit? Oh, and buying into this is the only way to achieve eternal bliss in heaven.
So one day I sat down and asked myself: what if there is no God? Does the universe get uglier? Do I feel some empty void in my heart that needs to be filled? Do I suddenly have an excuse to act like an ape with no morals and live a life of sin and decadence?
The answer to all of them was no. The universe, warts and all, is every bit as incredible if it got there all by itself. Imagine, everything got to the way it was with no plan, no goal, no outside help... That's pretty impressive. As for morality, well, imagine a society without it! Rules, empathy, morals... they're all necessary for a group to function.
As for the emotional void? It simply wasn't there. I still look up at the stars, and I still feel incredible awe. I am so tiny, so insignificant, but at the same time so complex and unique. I cry sometimes thinking about it, the same way I cried when I thought about how much God loved me.
I know I'm a part of this vast, incredible universe, no giant leaps of faith required.
And what kind of a dumbass thinks people worship an academic discipline, anyway? Do people worship art? Literature? History? Grow up. Read a book. Seriously.
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Thanks for your response. 
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Dude, you are an awesome person. I was expecting to start a flame war or something! You get one million Jesus points. (I give Jesus points to anyone I think is especially awesome/kind/self-sacrificing/tolerant. Why? Because savior or not, he was a pretty awesome guy. I still consider him a hero of mine, just because he had the balls to teach peace and love in such a conservative, hostile environment. Who cares if he may not have existed? Who cares if he really IS the son of God and I'm getting smoked for not thinking so? Jesus is badass, and a lot of people could learn a thing or two from him.)
Y'see, I get really upset when people bash the sciences. The whole point of science is to be unbiased, to go out there and discover the truth no matter what anyone thinks at the present. And then once you've finally found something, you have to be able to test it, prove it, and show your results to a lot of other people who have to test it and prove it themselves. It's not a conspiracy, it's not guesswork, and it's not the "new world order;" it's millions of people across time and space making a collective effort to figure things out. Is it worthy of worship? Hell, no! Respect? Hell, yes!
I'm also very, very happy to be able to talk to you. My absolute best-friend-ever is, you know, one of those Christians, and if I told her what I really believe, she'd never want to talk to me again. I've been trying to work up the courage to tell her for years. The reason I sound so anti-Christian a lot, I think, is because of her: her lifestyle is hurting her, emotionally, socially, and psychologically. She is afraid to think, afraid to ask questions, afraid that the God she relies on so much either won't be there. Or worse, he will be there and will smite her ass for questioning him. I want her to understand that it's okay to have doubts. I mean, if she goes out looking for God and finds him? Her faith will be all the stronger and she'll love him even more. If he's not, then oh well, she'll come out of it with a better understanding of the world and a whole new outlook on life.
I'm not out to "convert" her any more than you're out to convert me. I just can't stand to see her suffer like that. I thought about faking conversion just so she wouldn't have nightmares about me burning in hell, but then I'd be lying to my best friend, and that's just... wrong.
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Science has my utmost respect!!! I just don't worship it. This picture is for those that put evidence before faith. Again... something was compelled to draw from personal feelings. Your dear friend sounds like mine... I got to see first hand what religion could do to somebody if they felt condemned for anything. First of all we your friend needs to realize that Jesus died for our sins not our perfection. I got that from
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Hey, I'm willing to listen to you rant anytime, dude. (Not now, though: ENGLISH PAPER OF DEATH AWAITS.)
You have my utmost respect for being able to handle your faith the way you do. However, I'd never put a "maybe" before a "definitely." I mean, imagine if our justice system functioned on faith instead of evidence! I do have faith in some things (i.e. my parents love me and this juice I am drinking is, in fact, juice and not battery acid), but they're all things I have reasonable evidence for. On the other hand, I've followed my gut instincts before with nothing to back me up on it and have come out okay, so *shrug* whatever floats your boat.
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I see your point exactly. Your view is respected. As I told you before, I have friends of all faith backgrounds and beliefs. You're cool with me.
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Yay! 
*gets offline for real this time* Bye!
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Amen, sistah. <3
lol amen
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Oh God, the irony.
(there it is again! X3 )
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Haha! The monkey hands and feet are so funny! And what you say about believing and showing is so true.
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Yep. Believe something hard enough, and you'll see evidence for it everywhere. Like UFOs, government conspiracies, Santa Claus, and intelligent design. Ask any believer.
The problem with faith is that is grounded entirely in emotion, which is really, really subjective. People are quick to assign deep emotional experiences to "God." I remember looking at the stars as a kid, and I could have sworn I felt God's presence. Looking down at me, smiling, you know? I knew it was him I was feeling, just like I used to know it was Santa that brought the presents.
But after a while, things didn't really make sense from that perspective. God, like Santa Claus, was starting to seem less and less plausible. Take, for example, the Christian faith: His son, a human who is also himself (what the crap) has to sacrifice himself TO HIS FATHER WHO IS HIMSELF BY THE WAY in some grand master plan to save people from eternal torture. He then comes back to life, all "lol jk u gaiz," so whatever sacrifice he would have made is negated! All of this because a talking snake convinced two naked folks to eat a piece of fruit? Oh, and buying into this is the only way to achieve eternal bliss in heaven.
So one day I sat down and asked myself: what if there is no God? Does the universe get uglier? Do I feel some empty void in my heart that needs to be filled? Do I suddenly have an excuse to act like an ape with no morals and live a life of sin and decadence?
The answer to all of them was no. The universe, warts and all, is every bit as incredible if it got there all by itself. Imagine, everything got to the way it was with no plan, no goal, no outside help... That's pretty impressive. As for morality, well, imagine a society without it! Rules, empathy, morals... they're all necessary for a group to function.
As for the emotional void? It simply wasn't there. I still look up at the stars, and I still feel incredible awe. I am so tiny, so insignificant, but at the same time so complex and unique. I cry sometimes thinking about it, the same way I cried when I thought about how much God loved me.
My world needs no purpose. Being part of it is enough.
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EPIC. WIN.
*AHEM* Anyway, Science should be used FOR God, not against him. And no matter how hard a scientist tries, He won't be able to explain miracles.
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so true. As i say... Science is not meant to prove God... just understand his creation. Which there is nothing wrong with.
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Cool art! I like your cartoony style, and you've depicted this well. The pocket watch was a good idea.
I'm a little concerned about how this will look to any secularists who stumble upon your gallery... I think they could take this as being arrogant and snobby, and I worry that it would turn people off from the gospel.
Other'n that, no complaints! The picture itself is very well done.
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I thank you for your kind words. I hope people understand that science is a great thing. That it's used to understand God's creation. Not to prove that God exists. This is for the people who believe only what they see. I would hope that people would see it for what it is... but with religion, people get offended pretty easily. Like i did when i saw somebody take a picture of scriptures printed on toilet paper.
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I figured you didn't hate science or anything, but if you'll pretend to be an atheist and then read your artist comments, you might find you'll want to mention that or rephrase a thing or two.
Don't mind me, this is just my mission in life. Makin' things awkward.
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True, true.
In my opinion science and religion are separate and shouldn't be mixed.
Science is the study of the created universe, so we can basically only observe this world that God created. So if it is His purpose that we shall not be able to prove or disprove His existence, then we can't do that. So science can't be used to disprove nor prove God's existence.
Basically I think our best evidence of God's existence is the existence of the universe itself.
After reading a bit about creation / evolution, I believe that both options are possible, so whether God created the world through evolution, or through an instant creation, what does it matter?
God created the world, do we really need to know more?
Here is an interpretation of genesis chapter 1, in accordance with science:
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Also, here is a genius quote from the game alpha centauri:
"Men in their arrogance claim to understand the nature of creation, and devise elaborate theories to describe its behavior. But always they discover in the end that God was quite a bit more clever than they thought."
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I think science has done amazing things for humanity, and I love it. However, science is not the answer to everything in life. Albert Einstein said "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."
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i agree. This is speaking for those who rely completely on science. Einstein was wise.
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In "An Atheist Defends Religion", Bruce Sheiman argued that science-worshippers are incapable of comprehending the difference between knowledge and wisdom.
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that's a true statement. Thanks for sharing!
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I completely believe this is true, I actually don't even believe in science, so it's funny when people are arguing with me and say, "scientists proved it" and I either respond with "which ones" or "I don't believe in science"
so are you going to ink him?
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you shouldn't be so harsh on science there is a lot of good stuff it gave human kind
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yeah i'll ink him tomorrow probably.
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I'll have the other 2 up this week sometime.
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