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Guyver89 β Halo 4 Vadam Loyalist Grunt and Jackal WIP
Published: 2013-03-03 11:26:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 18140; Favourites: 373; Downloads: 0
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Just like my Sangheili officer I shall upload a WIP stage of what I'm working on. Once again I've decided to work on what the Vadam loyal faction would appear as in Halo 4 in my eyes.Once again they are a fusion of the Mdama Faction's appearance with the original trilogy's covenant appearance. One thing I did do was ditch the Halo 4 physique of the grunt and jackal.
The Grunts(unggoy) are arthropods meaning they are related to centipedes and millipedes. In Halo 4 it seems as though 343 ditched this fact and turned them into a reptilian looking race with the scales and toe nails on them. Although I do like the way their armor looks although they were missing the abdomen attachments to keep the methane tank strapped onto them.
The Jackals(Kig-Yar) were also turned reptilian in Halo 4. Their entire skull structure was changed with 343 ditching the avian skull with a more Zilla 1998 type of head with large teeth. I definitely did not like that drastic change. So I mixed the 2 head styles into 1. Keeping the bird skull they've had since Halo 2 but making it slightly more reptilian look with the jaws.
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This is great, though I need to correct you regarding the grunts. They aren't really arthropods; they are actually xeno-arthropodal vertebrates, meaning that they have both an internal skeleton and a chitinous outer shell. Like the kig-yar, the unggoy have three separate genetic varieties: The grunts from the original trilogy, the grunts in halo 4, and the grunts seen in halo 5. All three types of grunt are seen together in Halo Wars 2 as well.
Halo 4's jackals are a new subspecies of kig-yar called the Ibie'shans. The reason for their oddly-shaped skulls is because they retain more primitive physical traits from prehistoric kig-yar.
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OMG, you are just too good. They are perfect.
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This is great! Looks a little more like the halo 2 structure though. 343 changed a load of details about the covenant races' structures, making grunts look like fish and jackals look like utahraptors, remember
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Yikes, that Jackal. That's a face that not even a mother could love.
This is a very well-drawn piece. I love the detail.
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Great and all, but you're forgetting some things. Unggoy are reptilians as where the Kig-Yar range from reptilian to avian.
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Unggoy are arthropods as in related similar to centipedes
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No, they're not. This is where the truthe is.
halo.wikia.com/wiki/Unggoy
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Ugh halo wikia is a horrible site to get lore as it isn't up to date and full of wrong info. Halopedia is a more reliable canon site. Though both sites say they are like arthropods because a of they have exoskeletons. Although they are also similar to primate amphibians.
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T T Donβt make me come over there.
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Don't be spreading lies about my bae halo! People only think unggoy are reptilian because of the shitty design in halo 4. Luckily they fixed that shit in Halo 5 and made them crab like again.
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look so perfect *-* such a brilliant artwork
you should draw more jackals love that guys
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Technically, they arnt Jackals
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I wasn't talking about how you said their name, just if you knew they were a subspecies
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Don't worry fellow kig-yar, one day you will meet a very lovely lady....... who is blind.
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I donΒ΄t like the new look of the grunts... neither how their methanmask looks like nore the body itself... it reminds me more of a "space-turtle" than an athropode :/
but the new look of the jackles is really awesome! I canΒ΄t complain about that!
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Well that's what Unggoy are basically; space turtles.
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athropodes an turtles are two different things, dude...
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that's what i was tring to point out.
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huh? you said "that is what Unggoy are basicly; space turtles" how is that "pointing out", they are NO space turtles, but rather anthropodes?
that makes no sense...Β
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no, I'm saying that I was pointing out that the Unggoy are space turtles.
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you mean the Halo4-5 ones, or all of them?
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They arnt Jackals in Halo 4
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From what I've been told they're a subspecies
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"Jackals" is the overall name of the whole species, the subspecies are Ruuht, T'vaoan and Ibie'sh
It's just how the humans call them to identify them on the field, like "Elites" and "Grunts" etc. Grunt is not the species' actual name either
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Yeh I know, I just find it easier to say Jackal
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I quite like the look of the Jackal... He reminds me of the Jackals in Halo 2 (my favourite Jackal look). This is so much better than the horrible design in Halo 4. I also like your Halo 3 Grunt. He looks adorable lol.
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If only they actually retained their Reach/Halo 3 looks instead of that gad awful look they have in halo 4....
Don't get me wrong its still okay but.....the hell?
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Unggoy are not arthropods, they have spines.
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They are considered arthropods since the Bestiary states they are very similar to Earth's arthropods.
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Similar, that's the key word there. [link] Source
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Of course they aren't True Arthropods, that would mean they evolved on Earth. But still it stands they have an exoskeleton like insects and thats why I'm guessing the UNSC scientists said they were very similar to arthropods. I chose to change them back to the exoskeleton look and not the reptilian skin they have in Halo 4.
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Nothing wrong with how you drew them, I mean I <3 the picture. But I think the Unggoy in Halo 4 are probably a separate Subspecies like the Kig-Yar and Skirmishers.
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I think that's a cop out excuse. Of course it seems right with skirmishers but when the developers/creators of Halo don't say anything then it is considered the same. People were using the "different sub species" excuse on the sangheili in Halo Wars because they looked different and had claws. Which isn't the case its just the creators'/artists' own idea of what they looked like. You can't say the elites in Halo Reach are a different sub species from the Elites in Halo 2, Halo 3 or Halo 4. It is just the artists at the time of creation's idea of what they look like.
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lol people actually said that for the Sangheili in Halo Wars? [link] [link] I don't see a huge difference here. Honestly never met someone so, out there, even to suggest that for the Sangheili. Unggoy and Kig-Yar are more suitable for this theory just because their appearances changed a crap ton, in addition to us knowing there are different subspecies of Kig-Yar. Of course it's all just theory at this point, but consider all the different breed of dogs [link] 0.o all dogs are just a subspecies of the Gray Wolf.
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But when it comes to sentient species such as humanity there isn't really a thing as having a sub species because the dominant "sub species" of Homo Sapiens was Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Sangheili have no sub species of themselves because from their culture and diet, they were the top predator and probably beat back any similar races (Cro-Magnon vs Neanderthal in similarity.)
There really couldn't be a sub species of grunt seeing as the Covenant for nearly 4 centuries controlled all of the unggoys' breeding seeing as the unggoy multiply faster then bunnies. Of course there is still ethnicity but the differences between those are mostly down to aesthetic appearance. Sangheili seem to have ethnicity among themselves, as Jul M'dama's right hand man Gek is said to be way more pale then most sangheili.
Skirmishers however are said to have been entirely wiped out during the Battle of Reach, showing that, that sub species was very very rare and the covenant rounded them all up for that special purpose.
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lol wiped out? No a lot died, but they're not all dead. One even appears in The Thursday War.
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Bungie states that all skirmishers that participated in the attack on Reach were wiped out.( That is their excuse on why we never see skirmishers in Halo 1 - 4)They were such a small population they were formed in the covenant specifically for the attack on Reach since they knew Reach was humanity's military stronghold. Of course a number of the sub species survived. Most likely most were infants and females (although female kig-yar are known to be great leaders among naval ships.)
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Yes, not really sure we are at this point. Let's end this with me just saying your picture is awesome.
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my sorta head cannon for the jackels was the one i used for skirmishers, like they are sorta distant cousens of the usual kigyar.
but anyway, these are awsome!
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