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Description ~ Yngvar: Guess Who ~




Here is my first entry for 's round eight! Yngvar Eindride, an important character in my novel Sons of Disobedience. What can you guess about him from this illustration? I'm excited to hear your opinions!


Check here the revealed meaning of different elements in the drawing, along with more information about Yngvar:


Media: ink pens and ink wash
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Comments: 81

HelevornArt In reply to ??? [2018-03-02 22:51:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for guessing anyway! And sorry for the late answer. You're right, and I'm happy you like the drawing! ^^

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Akaszik [2018-02-15 21:23:20 +0000 UTC]

There is certainly too late for guesses, so instead I shortly tell you what I like about the piece.

 

It impresses me with clever lead. The most prominent figure is the man, but he does not dim killing scene in the back. Then there is mountain background and some Old Norse extras to enjoy. Everything put in importance hierarchy with size, placement and color. The composition is simply amazing.

 

I'm also impressed with details. Stubble, fur texture, textile patterns. Certainly you know your theme and you can well graphically depict it.

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HelevornArt In reply to Akaszik [2018-02-18 21:14:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for the kind words and insightful comment! <3 I'm glad you enjoy the details and that you think it's well put together! I still discover so many things that I hadn't thought about before OCT, even though I've "known" Yngvar for maaany years ^^

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Akaszik In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-19 10:18:16 +0000 UTC]

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Kitanokata [2018-02-11 07:27:40 +0000 UTC]

Yngvar is a viking warrior (it will be cool if he is a berserker, it would explain the bloody scene in the back).

I love the strong contrast between the red and the black-and-white sketch. And the small details... OMG, you can see every hair on his cape! Such fine work. The runes also look so cool... I am in love with this piece!

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HelevornArt In reply to Kitanokata [2018-02-14 21:35:04 +0000 UTC]

Yess, he is a berserker! Thank you very much for the guess, you're very right! Happy you like it

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SpaceCastaway [2018-02-10 21:56:12 +0000 UTC]

I have to admit, when I first saw Yngvar's Guess Who entry, I geeked out a bit and squealed like a kid, Maeve my witness we both geeked out and squealed. Since I already know a bit about him, I can't guess much, but I'll give it a go based on the illustration only.
Telling by the sword he holds, Yngvar surely is a warrior. The red figure in battle rage, bare-chested, suggests he's a berserker, and runes prompt access to mysterious arcane knowledge. Also his eyes seem rather disturbing - they're so bright as if they were glowing in the dark, which suggests a connection with magic or supernatural even stronger. He's not the type of guy you'd like to meet in the dark alley, or rather, on a walk alone in the woods Guessing by his heavily decorated attire and weapon, I'd also say he's rather well off, probably a nobility. And lastly, the two ravens seem to reflect Yngvar's association with Odin, the god of wisdom and smarts. He's a mysterious, bright berserker whose strength is wits as much as muscle.
Awesome job on the drawing, I absolutely adore the minimal color scheme, it suits Yngvar so much! Also the composition is absolutely amazing I'm so glad we're in the same team during the round of my favourite character of yours 

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HelevornArt In reply to SpaceCastaway [2018-02-14 21:34:29 +0000 UTC]

Oh thank you so much for the awesome comment and guess!!! I'm flattered Yngvar can make that impression on someone

Your guesses are on point, I love how you interpreted the clues I scattered here! Especially those related to Odin and Yngvar's connection with magic and knowledge (considering that, in his society, these two are intertwined). People detect his interest in the things beyond the visible and the quotidian, but no one understand exactly how he thinks; perhaps he's too ahead of his time, though unfortunately uneducated. If he did have access to education he would perhaps be a distinguished scholar rather than the berserker warrior he is now. Hence, the interest he takes in Aidan.

I'm really glad you find him interesting and that you like how I represented him here (and that you supported my enrolling him this round! ^^)

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Drayah [2018-02-10 17:27:58 +0000 UTC]

Amazing job on this! I love the red ink it's so dynamic!  

Yngvar is a warrior, someone who does not hesitate to fight and take lives, battle has hardened him (and taken his arm? It looks like he's missing an arm, but I can't tell if that's true or not, if it is then maybe he feels shame for loosing it and not being able to defeat his enemies) 

The two ravens and the runes make me think of Odin, so I'm wondering if he has some connection to him, maybe some wisdom that he gained through great sacrifice? 

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HelevornArt In reply to Drayah [2018-02-10 20:03:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot for the guess and I'm glad you like the drawing! Well, you already know the interpretation, but I'm glad the ravens led you to think of Odin!

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Drayah In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-10 20:23:13 +0000 UTC]

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RitellianCaptain [2018-02-10 02:23:52 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, he appears to be a berserker, or at least the viscous image and the red indicate that he is a terrible warrior, who is a dreaded foe. The ravens bode ill, so I imagine that seeing him around cannot always be good, that where he is, death is there also.   Is he a villain in the story? Or just an over zealous warrior?
  Amazing work with the details, as always!  I love his garments ant the details on those and his sword and scabbard!  The background is wonderfully lit, an creates such a striking scene!

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HelevornArt In reply to RitellianCaptain [2018-02-19 15:41:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot for the great guessing and for the kind appreciation! (And sorry for the super late reply)

He does look villain-ish because he's a psycho, but once that tries to do good (or at least not hurt innocent people ... any longer... for the most part... xD ). I really like how you interpreted the ravens, yes, they suggest that as well.

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dargon899 [2018-02-08 23:41:53 +0000 UTC]

;__; So cool.

He's a Disobedient Son

A man who has seen battle and has killed someone before. Maybe he doesn't fight fair as he's a trickster perhaps? I only assume because there are ravens in the piece. "The trickster is to be respected but never trusted." 

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HelevornArt In reply to dargon899 [2018-02-09 07:08:39 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot, a very interesting interpretation! I hadn't thought about it that way, but it makes sense, judging by what the drawings is showing. He isn't a trickster though, and he does his best to be fair. And yes, he is part of a dissident group know as the Sons of Disobedience.

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dargon899 In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-09 21:29:06 +0000 UTC]

Aw, damn! I just wanted to put an interesting spin on why there would be ravens! 

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HelevornArt In reply to dargon899 [2018-02-09 22:17:39 +0000 UTC]

Haha yea, that would have been interesting Unfortunately, Yngvar is too serious to be a trickster xD

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Meghan-Dzurichko [2018-02-08 17:09:25 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, he seems like a viking warrior and a lover of battle. The overall look here makes me think he might be some sort of psychopath and maybe an antagonist in your story.

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HelevornArt In reply to Meghan-Dzurichko [2018-02-08 18:43:24 +0000 UTC]

Nice guess, thanks a lot! You're right in all but the fact that he is an antagonist - at least in relation to the protagonist (Aidan) he is a positive character (although a sort of a psychopath, like you said xD).

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Meghan-Dzurichko In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-08 18:48:20 +0000 UTC]

Yay! I was close then!

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MegaMaeve [2018-02-07 22:46:00 +0000 UTC]

I AM SO GLAD YOU DECIDED TO ENROLL YNGVAR. AND YOU DID THIS PICTURE IN INK. AND WITH A RED-BLACK-WHITE COLOR SCHEME [EDIT: how can I not doodle him in my favorite color scheme too? --> Ingvar doodle ]


Yngvar Eindride is a powerful, enigmatic, wealthy, and spiritual norseman (with, perhaps a touch of magical Finnish blood running through his veins? ) His hair is long and fair, his clothes warm and decorated - he wears patterned fabrics, rich furs, a ring, large metal clasps, and an engraved belt - and it is obvious that this is a powerful man. His swords is intricate, the decorations on the hilt are marvelous, but surely, it isn't just for decoration - the blade surely will be as sharp as his mind, that is to say, deadly. 

Yngvar knows how to make use of his deadly tools, he knows how to fight, murder, pillage, kill. It is quite clear that this man is no ordinary man. This man is a berserkr. The imagery in red (such beautiful crosshatching, and selfishly speaking, I love red ink) depicts a gruesome killing scene, and the perpetrator is bare chested (something berserkers would do), wielding a blade with the same hilt as the one Yngvar is holding. Aka: I'm guessing that the red imagery depicts Yngvar himself, going berserk, ridding himself of his enemies by using brute force and bloodshed.

Yngvar, however, isn't all about brute force. Look at his belt: it is engraved with runes. Look at the background: also runes. (I tried reading the text, but much to my own horror I realized I borrowed my Old Norse grammar to a friend of mine, so I couldn't translate much :') I recognize brandr 'torch', though that's too little for me to figure out which Old Norse text I should look into, especially without my trusted book :'))

The use of runes often was related to magic and spirituality, and as such, I'd like to guess that Yngvar very much is a spiritual/religious man, faithful to the Old Gods. This claim is supported by the presence of Huginn and Muninn, Odin's two Ravens. (Maybe they could refer to Yngvar, somehow, being related to Odin Mythical heroes often were, after all, and Yngvar seems to be shrouded in myth). Yngvar's eyes are abnormally pale, giving him an intimidating yet somewhat magical air as well. 


Maybe, aside from a berserkr only, he also is a chief, or spiritual leader of his people, too.

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HelevornArt In reply to MegaMaeve [2018-02-08 18:13:29 +0000 UTC]

OHH Thank you for the amazing and insightful comment and for the drawing I'm so flattered that you felt like doodling him!!! (May I share your drawing in a status?)

Your interpretation is spot on, you saw the details I tried to put into it and all I can say without spoilers is that you are right about pretty much everything you said! I like how you interpreted the runes (at his belt and in the background) and the ravens in terms of an affinity for knowledge and magic/spirituality! The verse in runes is from Hávamál: "Brandr af brandi brenn, unz brunninn er, funi kveikisk af funa; maðr af manni verðr at máli kuðr" (A torch by a torch burns until it's burnt, fire is kindled by fire, man by man becomes wise). So yes, a hint to his wisdom and connection with Odin, just like you said! I'm also impressed that you read the runes and recognized brandr  And not many people saw that there are two ravens in my drawing (and you even drew a raven in your representation of Yngvar as well!)

I'm glad you like the drawing and the colour scheme too! Also, thanks for supporting Yngvar's enrollment

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MegaMaeve In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-09 17:44:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm happy you like both the guess and the doodle! If you'd like to share it, by all means, do so! I am flattered, genuinely!


Your Guess Who pictures always are so detailed, and there's so much to scrutinize - so when I saw you'd done a picture of Yngvar of all people, I was beyond happy (and put even more effort into vying for details than I otherwise would've done ); you always put in some "easter eggs" - like the runes - that refer to genuine historical events and sources, so this was a real treat to me. Thank you for the translated verse, by the way! About two years ago, back when I learnt to read Old Norse, I also had to translate some pieces from the Hávamál; though I do not recognize this quote, it really does bring back memories, and I'm always impressed by the sheer amount of research you do for your drawings.  


Can't wait to learn more about him and your story! This is going to be such a delight.

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HelevornArt In reply to MegaMaeve [2018-02-11 18:26:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks again!!! Your kind words mean a lot, it's great when you see that people appreciate what you do and find your characters likable! AND especially that you are familiar with Norse stuff too, that makes it all the more exciting for me to read your interpretations and feedback

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Tete-DePunk [2018-02-07 21:39:48 +0000 UTC]

Yngvar appears to be an especially prominent Viking Chieftain, or at least a high rank in the hierarchy of Viking social structures and government.
His eyes spark a clarity of determination, yet there lies a strong of element of defiance and berserk energy that seizes him.

The figure in the background, an alarming red silhouette wielding a heavy overhead with a spray of thick blood across the view tells us his nature is ferocious, showing no mercy to his adversaries and opponents, and is relentless in his vanquishing of those who oppose him.

Does he have a scar over his left eye? If so, it shows he has lived through many battle successful to bear such a scar- it gives him a hardened, grizzled look that bespeaks his ferocity.

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HelevornArt In reply to Tete-DePunk [2018-02-08 18:40:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the great guess! <3 I can't say much more (for now, until the next task) but that you're right in your interpretations, I'm glad you noticed so many details! I didn't mean it as a scar, but he does bear a lot of scars as signs from the battles he's been through.

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Tete-DePunk In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-08 20:33:11 +0000 UTC]

Of course, we're not allowed too much for spoilers in this assignment- though can't wait to see the reveal in the next assignment!

Ah, so the mark is not a scar, then? Still, you are right- he does bear many scars from the battles he has lived and triumphed through.

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UnaOwens [2018-02-07 20:21:39 +0000 UTC]

I think he is a brutal viking warrior who enjoys battle and slaughtering his enemies.

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HelevornArt In reply to UnaOwens [2018-02-08 18:36:36 +0000 UTC]

That he is Thank you for guessing!

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Ulario [2018-02-05 20:42:31 +0000 UTC]

My first impression is that he is a stoic viking warrior.  The red details in the background also make me think that he tends to be a bit psychotic.

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HelevornArt In reply to Ulario [2018-02-06 06:32:29 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, great guess!

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LordCherryPaw [2018-02-02 20:22:27 +0000 UTC]

Yngvar is a warrior for Odin!!! Cutting down non-believers and invaders. Bringer of death and a berserker! Though he looks like a authority figure...Can't quite put my finger on what kind though...

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HelevornArt In reply to LordCherryPaw [2018-02-05 17:50:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! You're pretty much right!

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LordCherryPaw In reply to HelevornArt [2018-02-05 18:58:21 +0000 UTC]

Sweet! *w*

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SunsetBlazer [2018-02-02 17:51:46 +0000 UTC]

This is such an awesome artwork!  I get a really eerie feeling from it...  Yngvar is another berserker... but not so noble, like Hakon.  He is a blood knight, who thrives off of battle and bloodshed.  If he loves anything, then it's killing people. There are crows in the background, which are a symbol of death (and change). He's creepy, man....   I am very excited to learn more!

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HelevornArt In reply to SunsetBlazer [2018-02-05 17:50:03 +0000 UTC]

Oh you're close, I love the comparison with Hakon! Indeed, Yngvar is more cold and cruel and enjoys killed much more than Hakon (who likes battles more as a sport and a challenge and actually resents killing). Thanks for the great comment!

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pandalamaa [2018-02-02 17:15:24 +0000 UTC]

Oooh this is so gorgeous and detailed!

He definitely seems like a nordic warrior, maybe someone who's been trough many harsh and tough events in his life, or maybe he's committed some of them to others too. But he seems to be above "normal and poor" vikings, seeing his fancy sword and clothing~

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HelevornArt In reply to pandalamaa [2018-02-05 17:48:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much! Great guess

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Iven-Furrpaw [2018-02-01 21:35:53 +0000 UTC]

oooh an ancient viking warrior, very nice! or at least that's what my guess is. he definitely has a high rank due to the cape on his shoulders and armor on his chest. can't wait to see what becomes of him!

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HelevornArt In reply to Iven-Furrpaw [2018-02-05 17:47:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, you're pretty much right

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MadamFrost [2018-02-01 17:20:47 +0000 UTC]

My guess would be he's a mercenary that prefers to work alone, and who wont hesitate to kill his target or anyone who tries to hinder his job.

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HelevornArt In reply to MadamFrost [2018-02-01 18:04:35 +0000 UTC]

Nice, thanks for the guess!

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InkyRose [2018-02-01 13:07:59 +0000 UTC]

The detail here is astounding! What do the runes in the background say?  I love the contrast between the black and white in the foreground and the crimson in the background, such a graphic contrast between the calm and the violent. I'm guessing he's a warrior of great renown, a man who knows his own mind, and off the battlefield is slow to anger, and somewhat unreadable. Proud too, with a strong sense of his own honour. A charismatic leader. Have I got anything right?

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HelevornArt In reply to InkyRose [2018-02-02 14:41:12 +0000 UTC]

Oh my, I forgot to answer to your question concerning the runes in the background! Sorry for that, it's a great question actually since meaning of the inscription is significant for Yngvar's character and beliefs! It's a quote in Old Norse from Hávamál, and it reads:

"Brandr af brandi brenn, unz brunninn er, funi kveikisk af funa; maðr af manni verðr at máli kuðr" 
(meaning: A torch by a torch burns until it's burnt, fire is kindled by fire, man by man becomes wise)

So it's a quote about wisdom, supposedly, from Odin's own words, and both the ravens and the runes themselves are Odin's symbols. Yngvar is into this kind of stuff ^^

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HelevornArt In reply to InkyRose [2018-02-01 18:08:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for taking part in the guess and for the great points you've made, I'm glad you noticed so many details! I can't give more info for the sake of the guessing game, but I can say that you interpreted the details with skillful accuracy

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el7doodles [2018-02-01 03:13:51 +0000 UTC]

He looks like a warrior who has seen monstrosities and death in his numerous battles. He must have really strong ideals in order to deal with wars and blood.
Really nice illustration!  

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HelevornArt In reply to el7doodles [2018-02-01 18:05:10 +0000 UTC]

You're pretty much right! ^^ Thank you!

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Raqonteur [2018-02-01 00:10:02 +0000 UTC]

Yngvar doesn't look evil at all
From the sunken eyes to the dark, sly smirk.  And not to mention his hand is apparently never far from his sword.  This is a man who takes what he wants by force, and the gods and anyone else who stands in his way, be damned.
He's most likely the main antagonist.

He was either born with noble rank or more likely achieved it through guile and force of arms.  He no doubt has an army of enforcers to do his dirty work now but he's never been afraid to get his own hands dirty either.  By his ornate sword and fine clothes and adornments, if he's not chieftan then he's a close second.  Just waiting for his chance and not afraid to leave a few corpses on his way to it.  The red figure in the background depicts the levels of barbarousy and butchery he willing to go to to get what he wants.  Perhaps he even gets his kicks out of it.


This is one bad dude.
Oh and he's part of your Viking story

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HelevornArt In reply to Raqonteur [2018-02-01 18:04:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot for the detailed comment and the smart guesses! I can say you were right about many things (which of them I'll show once the round is finished) I'm glad you noticed so many details!

I must say I enjoyed the part where you said he's the main antagonist - he does look pretty mean, doesn't he? I can say that he is a positive character if we take into account his relationship with the protagonist (Aidan, from last OCT round), but if we're talking morality the line is very blurred.

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MelancholyCyborg1 [2018-01-31 14:06:12 +0000 UTC]

Yngvar appears to be a warrior and one who doesn't hesitate to kill his enemies. He seems to be a very stoic, a trait that helps him in battle.

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