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Horskan In reply to otnesse [2014-10-06 10:40:06 +0000 UTC]

Good point!!

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otnesse In reply to Horskan [2014-10-27 02:46:50 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and that's not even listing the likes of Jean-Paul Sartre and Michel Foucault, who basically promoted a lot of extremely stupid stuff and actually did a lot of stupid, if not downright evil stuff (like Sartre's serial seducing of countless women, many of which were underage and cruelly throwing them away to say little of his promoting the likes of that terrorist and monster Che Guevara as "the most complete human being of the century," or Foucault's knowingly infecting as many people with AIDs as he could before he succumbed to the disease), and these guys were philosophers/playwrights/prolific writers. And don't get me started on the Enlightenment philosophers, particularly Kant, Rousseau, Voltaire, Diderot, and Sade. Hey, just look at the stuff Bertrand Russell promoted, or Ernest Hemmingway.

Ironically, Belle actually came closer to being an actual idiot in the original film than they did, even with her literacy and her good deductive reasoning skills (namely, deducing the castle was enchanted just from casual observation as well as being implied to have deduced Gaston was trying to blackmail her into marrying her via threatening to lock up Maurice). I mean, a smart person, not matter how curious, would not try to lift a glass veil over a floating rose and touch it (especially when the mere fact that it was even under said glass covering in the first place should have made it very obvious to literally anyone that it is not supposed to be touched, and there's probably a very good reason for not touching it), nor would they try to flee the castle while a blizzard is outside and there are wolves on the prowl, enter the West Wing when she was specifically told not to go in there by not only the master, but also the servants, and a smart person certainly would not expose the Beast's existence to what was pretty clearly a congregated mob running on pure drunk emotion, especially when one of the people who was among said mob had proven himself to be perfectly willing to do something as heinous and extreme as blackmailing her with the lockup of her father in an asylum, and thus it stands to reason that he would in fact try to murder the beast if there was even a hint that she might have any feelings for him, and the last bit was especially bad since it was pretty obvious to anyone that it would end very badly (And Gaston's not even that skilled of a manipulator either, as most people can't afford to blurt out enough details of their plot in public to expose them as heinous). Heck, had I been in her situation in that last scenario, I would have instead knocked Gaston out (and considering the fact that Belle lifted the Beast up once beforehand [and keep in mind, he's much larger and heavier than Gaston was] without aid, and presumably without much effort, yes, she most certainly could manhandle Gaston during that time), stole a torch, throw it at the paddywagon and making sure I wasn't seen doing so, then as the villagers are rushing to get water to put it out, I'd get Maurice, Chip, and the magic mirror, and flee the area, making sure not a trace is left to where I was headed. It would have avoided a bad marriage with Gaston, Maurice being locked up, and more importantly it would have ensured that the Beast and his servants were actually safe. I think the only times she was actually proven to be smart was when Belle deduced the castle was enchanted and when she lured Wardrobe downstairs to a surprise party in one of the Marvel Comics. Honestly, at least the three girls in the film alone were smart enough to realize that A. Belle refused Gaston (and this was before Gaston realized it), B. that Gaston marrying Belle meant they don't get a shot at him, and C. Their absence from the mob, plus their overall reactions in the Gaston reprise (their last appearance in the film) suggesting that they apparently realized just how horrible of a plan it was and didn't support it at all, the little of the plan they did hear even among the other people in the tavern, anyways, since they were implied to have missed out on Maurice bursting in as well as the first few lyrics to that stupid reprise. And that's not even getting into the stunts they pulled in the Marvel Comics, at least one of which came far closer to success than Gaston's plan ever did.

Honestly, even Ariel seemed smarter than Belle, and at least Ariel had an excuse for Ursula's near victory (Ursula did imply she had changed for the better, Ariel was already emotionally traumatized by what Triton did to her grotto, and she was already somewhat distrusting of Ursula even when undergoing the deal), Belle didn't with her role in Gaston's actions late in the film (where it was pretty obvious Gaston was a bad person even during that time, especially to her, and she definitely would have deduced what exactly would happen when she exposed the Beast's existence).

I gained some distrust of Belle thanks to several terrible semesters at College (not difficulty relating to classwork, so much as the professors trying to cram a left-wing, anti-Christian, anti-American, heck, anti-Male agenda onto us), plus some indepth research as to several intellectuals pushing very evil ideas or otherwise supporting them, since at least the Age of Enlightenment (especially the French Revolution), and that's not even getting into the likelihood that education itself had at the very least been screwed over by Voltaire and his friends taking over the French Academie to promote anti-Christian lies, if not fully created to be irreparably bugged in the case of Rousseau, the father of early childhood education/modern education. It largely stems from how we Christians were persecuted by those intellectuals since that time. The triplets, while I don't actually like them, I trust more than her now since they were at least implied to be Christian, and certainly not male-haters (which unfortunately, if we go by Disney Comics, Belle actually was a man-hater before she met the Beast).

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Horskan In reply to BriteStarRobot [2012-04-03 16:21:26 +0000 UTC]

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BriteStarRobot In reply to Horskan [2012-04-03 17:21:09 +0000 UTC]

They remind me of the fangirls of ANY celebrity.

But the Bimbettes don't realize that Gaston's so gross.

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