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Touch-Not-This-Cat [2020-02-14 20:08:03 +0000 UTC]
Any chance Galician-Rite Orthodox could at least rent it for Masses?
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HydromelKing In reply to Touch-Not-This-Cat [2020-02-15 10:15:14 +0000 UTC]
I don't think so. This a former church and a classified monument but it still belongs to the Catholic Church.
I've never heard about the the Galician-Rite Orthodox, I doubt there are enough people practicing this rite here.
But if you want to pray, there are enough churches in Rouen to do it.
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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to HydromelKing [2020-02-15 18:25:39 +0000 UTC]
I’ve heard of Western Rite ROCOR Vicariate being allowed to share a Roman chapel. And Rome’s no longer even using this. They’ve even sold properties to other Orthodox jurisdictions: youtu.be/zYi1jRox9F4 although Antioch is not as wealthy as Moscow presently (although I have no idea which currently dominate the use of Germanus, so...?🤷🏻♂️)
The Galician Rite (Wester Sub rite) is a form of the mass written by Saint Germanus with a liturgy spoken in an ancient Gaulish French dialect, and was the most common form in that jurisdiction for centuries until Charlemagne insisted everyone use the Divine Liturgy of Saint Gregory The Great.
youtu.be/sGvjx1102U8
Well, I hope Orthodoxy is able to save from obscurity, demolition and the tourist trade more and more liturgically abandoned Roman parishes of all kinds, be they magnificent cathedrals or simple chapels.
God Bless you for calling my attention to such a beauty.☦️
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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to HydromelKing [2020-02-17 04:04:03 +0000 UTC]
Well, you need more armed guards protecting them. Vandalism is up orders of magnitude in the last 10 years.
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HydromelKing In reply to Touch-Not-This-Cat [2020-02-17 14:35:28 +0000 UTC]
If only armed guards could solve all our vandalism problems
we would have put them in front of every important monument
but guns just give a fake impression of security and we can't
post soldiers and policemen everywhere.
Our vandalism problems in France are mainly related to the desecration of graves
in our cemetaries because of the rising of racist ideologies. Cemetaries are
the places which required more attention and surveillance these days.
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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to HydromelKing [2020-02-18 04:03:27 +0000 UTC]
Sigh.
I can’t help becoming passionate. Forgive me.
You need to reclaim all that farming territory still riddled with old bombs. Frankly, I think they have been deliberately left in the ground to keep a tight leash on the cultural attitudes that naturally grow with farms, such as a healthy respect for guns.
Your tragically reduced rural community due to the Great Wars has left you with a very unwise attitude towards guns in the very long term.
You can’t legislate people into being nice.
I believe in “Chaos Theory”, and the healthiest place for individuals, cultures and nations to be is ON THE EDGE of Chaos. The sudden glut of new weapons following the Steel Revolution has resulted in two colossal disballancings, from too much chaos to too much order to too much of a DIFFERENT kind of chaos today.
I pray for balance to be maintained here in America and to FINALLY return to Europe.
The common rural man, he reminds us that police can’t always be relied on, that crimes are usually over before they get here, and that we have to be able to defend ourselves. He loves the land too much to ever become too jaded by street crimes.
Guns do NOT give a fake sense of security if every sane man has one and is fully trained. It IS done just fine here in the states where the people have not been prejudiced against them.
In My home town every third person owns at least one. We have very little crime here and even less that gets away with it. My church has several armed men. No desecrations will occur there. But my quaint little parish is no historical wonder. But the Eucharist IS The Body and Blood of The Living God.
This faith drives me to treat ALL Catholic and Orthodox Churches equally. I love them all and would die to defend any of them.
Protecting the Honor of the Dead is important, to be sure, but over 800 churches have been violated, usually with a focus on Directly Hurting Christ even more!
I won’t argue about who is doing the desecrations, it doesn’t matter. It IS happening.
I praise God that the Non Chalcedon Schism is over, and that my brothers and sisters in Syria and Ethiopia can unite, at last, in One Holy Catholic and Orthodox Apostolic Faith, and that my Patriarch John 10th will live many years to come. I pray that they can grow strong enough to protect their remaining Churches from Desecrations.
I pray for the conversion of Europe to Orthodox Catholicism.
I pray for the return of sane Guild Economics, to destroy the false duopolism of Capitalism and Socialism.
I pray for a world where something more than arbitrary Power is held sacred.
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HydromelKing In reply to Touch-Not-This-Cat [2020-02-18 09:57:49 +0000 UTC]
Sorry if I don't share your vision. I will never like guns, they frightened me
and they do not solve problems in my opinion. People with guns have the power
to kill, it's a great responsibility. I think it should not be normal that every people in the US
has a gun, it means you have the power to kill your neighbours just if you don't like them.
I think it is not fair and dangerous.
I respect people who have faith but I always lived happy without religion
and we humans have always committed the worst crimes in the name of religions,
wars, crusades, colonizations and genocides, so excuse me if I don't suscribe
to your point of view. I think the world would be a better place if people stop trying
to convert other people to their religion and accept others can have different beliefs
and can be good and interesting people too.
I love churches because they are part of my heritage, part of my history and
I like those buildings but I don't need to trust in a god in order to take care
of them.
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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to HydromelKing [2020-02-19 04:37:20 +0000 UTC]
Well, I pray for the Ancient farmlands of of France to be cleansed of the literal pollution of war and reclaimed. You should volunteer on holiday to go out there and help clear all that old metal. It’s a travesty that your government hasn’t finished it long ago. Get to know the people out there, see what makes them tick. If everyone in France volunteered a few days a year on cleanup, it would get done in just a few years! You might fall in love with the land, who knows?
He was born in the summer of his 27th year
Coming home to a place he'd never been before
He left yesterday behind him, you might say he was born again
You might say he found a key for every door
When he first came to the mountains his life was far away
On the road and hanging by a song
But the string's already broken and he doesn't really care
It keeps changing fast and it don't last for long
But the Colorado rocky mountain high
I've seen it rainin' fire in the sky
The shadow from the starlight is softer than a lullabye
Rocky mountain high (Colorado)
France has magnificent mountains too, Nobel forests and enchanting farms with the ancient hedgerows. But last I studied, 30% is still “No Man’s Land”. It is FAR overdue to be reclaimed. It is ALSO your heritage, and if I ever go home to France (my mother has Western Rural French roots) I would spend most of my time volunteering in that cleanup.
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HydromelKing In reply to Touch-Not-This-Cat [2020-02-19 10:36:28 +0000 UTC]
It's a laudable goal but I doubt farmers will come back
on those lands magically, especially because of the hard times
they have nowadays, trying to survive without being helped
or listened by the government.
Maybe, if I had the chance to spend time in the north of France I'll do it,
but I've never seen those farmlands by myself.
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Touch-Not-This-Cat In reply to HydromelKing [2020-02-19 22:19:57 +0000 UTC]
Isn’t it funny how the cleanup projects after the war, that made such amazing progress in the first 20 years, slowed to almost nothing since 1980.
Governments that can tightly control their farmers basically have the common man by the balls.
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