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Hyrotrioskjan β€” Neoalcyonidae ref sheet

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They are the dolphins of their time.
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CPtheLunarGoat [2015-11-14 01:54:39 +0000 UTC]

Amazing!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to CPtheLunarGoat [2015-11-19 23:33:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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CPtheLunarGoat In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2015-11-19 23:36:11 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. ^^

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cultistofvertigo [2012-08-28 09:03:38 +0000 UTC]

Awesome. These are just my favorite animals, even though they don't exist yet. I like Neoalcyonid better than Pelagornid, because it's less dangerously close to a previously named past animal group, but is this just one lineage of penguin-whales (for lack of a better term)? Or is this the total diversity for whatever time period you're looking at? I'd really like to see the full body of that smaller white one, the head looks gorgeous. The ruddy red one with the blue crest is also quite cool.

...they get bigger than this, right? Like, a LOT bigger?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to cultistofvertigo [2012-08-28 14:40:59 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

They don't get much bigger, that's the niche of the Cetosornids.
This is not the complete diversity. There are some more species, but I have just skecthes or even thoughts about them. There are two main linages of "penguin whales", how you called them. The Neoalcyonidae are the dolfins and orcas during the Cetosornidae become baleen whale like giants with nearly 10m lenght.

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cultistofvertigo In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2013-03-10 03:17:41 +0000 UTC]

wowzerz... 10 meters is pretty good...

I ought to bookmark your page or something so I can go back and check more of this stuff out when I'm not so busy. Do you have a piece that illustrates the 10 meters cetosornid? Because if not, you should. :3c

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to cultistofvertigo [2013-03-10 15:28:14 +0000 UTC]

[link] here is it

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Marmot-of-Doom [2012-03-30 22:08:20 +0000 UTC]

Ich hab mich immer gewundert wie walartige vΓΆgel die sache mit ihren eiern regeln wΓΌrden, kΓΆnnen sie an land robben und die eier da legen oder kΓΆnnen sie sie im Wasser lagen, oder werden die kΓΌcken lebend geboren?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Marmot-of-Doom [2012-03-30 22:22:03 +0000 UTC]

Sie werden lebend geboren, das ist in der Evolotion schon viele Male passiert

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Marmot-of-Doom In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2012-03-30 23:32:29 +0000 UTC]

Alles klar

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Lycanic [2012-01-02 08:58:33 +0000 UTC]

Looks like penguins have evolved into avian whales. XD

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Lycanic [2012-01-02 13:14:44 +0000 UTC]

Right

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NeuStrasbourg [2010-12-28 02:22:21 +0000 UTC]

sooner or later, every vertebrate filling that niche evolves a dorsal fin. keep that in mind

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to NeuStrasbourg [2010-12-28 04:51:15 +0000 UTC]

Ach ja.
Du kannst ruhig auf deutsch schreiben.
Ich freu mich immer wenn ich mal meine Muttersprache benutzen darf

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NeuStrasbourg In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-28 06:00:48 +0000 UTC]

dann halten wir's von jetzt an so
Hab' dich nur aus DA-Gewohnheit auf Englisch angesprochen.

Und was die Rueckenflosse angeht war ich wohl etwas zu enthousiastisch

Ich haette die Abwesenheit einer Rueckenflosse bei Schildkroeten damit erklaert, dass die noch zur Eiablage an Land gehen und daher eine andere Lebensweise haben als Delfine und Ichtyosaurier, aber bei z.B. Plesiosauriern hab' ich keine Ahnung, ob die lebend (also im Wasser) gebaerend waren oder nicht.

Aber da faellt mir ein dass bei Tieren mit Rueckenflosse der Schwanz der Hauptantrieb ist, waerend Tiere ohne Rueckenflosse vor allem "paddeln". Da deine Meeresvoegel ebenfalls "paddeln" (mit umgewandelten Fluegeln), hat bei ihnen eine Rueckenflosse wohl tatsaechlich keinen Sinn.

Sorry dass ich dich so zutexte, aber manchmal komm' ich halt in Fahrt

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to NeuStrasbourg [2010-12-28 12:53:16 +0000 UTC]

Nich schlimm.
HΓ€t ich auch gemacht wenn mir frΓΌher aufgefallen wΓ€re das du aus Deutschland kommst.
Ich will eigentlich immer noch mehr sagen aber dann steht einem die Fremdsprache voll im weg.
Du hast recht. Der Schwanzantrieb lΓ€sst die Tiere gefahr laufen sich um die eigene Achse zu drehen deshalb brauchen sie einen Stabilisator.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to NeuStrasbourg [2010-12-28 04:46:55 +0000 UTC]

Not all
Plesiosaur, Pliosaur and seaturtels have never evolves dorsal fins. They all use the legs to swimm.
And they all have the time to evolve a fin.

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whalewithlegs [2010-12-26 06:55:04 +0000 UTC]

Man, this is great! I'd love to see more of these that aren't just busts!

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to whalewithlegs [2010-12-26 19:36:01 +0000 UTC]

I have some concepts. But most of the family-members have the same figure

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MUNDOREPTILES [2010-12-26 01:13:42 +0000 UTC]

they have a social structure?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to MUNDOREPTILES [2010-12-26 01:19:11 +0000 UTC]

They live in big groups (40-60) and breed together.

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MUNDOREPTILES In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-26 02:11:46 +0000 UTC]

yes, but they have a structural organitazion? i mean like the wolfs and the dolhpins

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to MUNDOREPTILES [2010-12-26 02:29:43 +0000 UTC]

No.
The swarms are organized like the swarms of flying birds.

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platypus12 [2010-12-26 00:02:30 +0000 UTC]

So they fill the niches of dolphins?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to platypus12 [2010-12-26 00:30:56 +0000 UTC]

Yes.
They swim like penguins, eat like dolphins and breed like turtels.

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platypus12 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-26 02:34:38 +0000 UTC]

I had a similar idea once! Except the breeding method is kinda different in which females lay eggs in a brood pouch on the males back.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to platypus12 [2010-12-26 19:32:16 +0000 UTC]

Great idea but the problem is the water that come in and kill the babys.

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platypus12 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-26 20:52:31 +0000 UTC]

Actually the male keeps his back out of the water.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to platypus12 [2010-12-27 14:02:08 +0000 UTC]

A big risk.
Sharks attack from downstairs.

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platypus12 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-28 01:38:41 +0000 UTC]

Another idea was Ovoviviparity in which the egg hatches from inside the mother.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to platypus12 [2010-12-28 12:56:17 +0000 UTC]

Another possibility.
I thinking about it...

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Leggurm In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2011-09-29 05:51:45 +0000 UTC]

What did they evolve from?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to Leggurm [2011-09-29 07:58:38 +0000 UTC]

They are auks.

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platypus12 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-28 19:18:57 +0000 UTC]

I think the ones that hunt in packs would have the most potential.

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to platypus12 [2010-12-28 19:27:15 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.
Social structures like packhunting make the organisms more flexible.

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platypus12 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-28 19:32:42 +0000 UTC]

But you think they'll need things such as spears?

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Hyrotrioskjan In reply to platypus12 [2010-12-28 20:33:25 +0000 UTC]

Yes technologie is good fo every culture.

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platypus12 In reply to Hyrotrioskjan [2010-12-28 20:43:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah…

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