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I had this idea some time ago, and after a hard work that took me a lot of days, i did this one in half an hour.
OF COURSE, Sadako is the one that stands behind, in the shadows. Samara is a fake
and she only can die!! 
I really can´t stand american remakes of ... everything!! but specially from japanese horror movies. I found all of them pathetic, and that´s my special tribute to the originals!
The picture has a lot of mistakes, i know. I did it in a few time completely by computer, with no sketch.
RINGU!!
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I like both. But I prefer the one with Samara in it it more scary.
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I honestly can't decide which I like better because they are both so good and so scary but in entirely different ways. The original is more conventional. It has the traditional three act structure, the creeping plot, the typical cut away scares, the over the top effects and the big shocker ending. It's just a typical western horror film, but I would argue a very good one. It's good if you just want to sit down and be scared. Ringu, on the other hand, is very slow, very confusing, and very very creepy. Not scary, but creepy and disturbing.
The best example is probably at the end. The ghost comes out of the TV in both but they're very different. In The Ring, you see her breaking through the barrier of the TV. You see the exact moment she breaks the forth wall and the scare comes from that exact moment. In Ringu, she just kinda pulls herself out of the TV as if the screen wasn't there. It's not so much scary that she's broken the forth wall, but the exceptionally creeping realisation that the forth wall isn't and probably hasn't ever been there. It's kinda like having a monster breaking into your house vs a monster walking through your door. Both scary, but in two very different ways.
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Just the fact that its Sadako showing Fakemara who's boss is enough for me.
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Only weeaboos like the original better than the remake and only because they feel that anything Japanese is better than anything American. I've watched both The Ring and Ringu and Ringu didn't disturb me at all. Sadako was so freaking lame that I wonder how even a 5 year old could find her even remotely scary. SAMARA RULES AND SADAKO DROOLS!!!
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XDD That's hilarious... i like a lot of american movies and i think they are the best for a lot of genres. But horror is not one of them. The american remakes of japanese, spanish, korean, etc, horror movies are just rubbish. All the atmosphere, rythm, and psycological aspects of fear are lost, and instead of them you have fx, fast camera movements and the same patterns over and over and over again, film after film. The same shit repeated constantly (just as happens now with the asian horror movies, repeating the same formulas again and again). I suppose it works with teens that are just waiting for the fright with the high-volume music, but not for me.
American remakes (even the remakes of old american movies)are just shit, specially as a concept.
And the horror american movies, except some few exceptions, are lost since the 80´s or even before.
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Ringu did absolutely nothing for me. If the original movie was better then it should have done a better job scaring me. As it is, Ringu seemed more like a cheap remake of The Ring rather than the inspiration for it. It's pretty bad when you think the original is the cheap knock-off. As one of the other commentors have said, the plot was revealed too easily, and the special effects were non-existant. And I failed to see how Ringu is even remotely realistic. For one thing, the part where Sadako crawled out of the well and out of the TV? She was perfectly clean, her dress was clean, and her hair was totally dry and even her fingernails looked like cheap movie makeup. That wasn't done realistic. If she had been in the well for so long, she would have looked just the way Samara looked in The Ring, gray skin, wrinkled,wet, moldy, disheveled. The only thing even remotely scary about Sadako was the wierd eye she makes, which pretty much anybody could do (it is very overused in Japanese horror movies, the Grudge was the same way. In fact, only the title of Japanese horror movies are what makes each movie seem different because the effects and plots make them seem like a continuation of each other). Samara was far scarier and otherworldly. And as for the way the faces contort on her victims, that was so lame and fake. They weren't even scary, they looked like the kind of face that people take pictures of on their phones and post on Facebook. It's as ridiculous as the "duck face". The faces of Samara's victims are terrifying, and leave no doubt in your mind that they died in a very horrific way.
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That´s the problem, i don´t care about fx in horror movies. I don´t care how expensive is the film. Before watching Ringu my favourite horror movie was "the changeling", and if you have seen it, there is no fx at all on it.
I know a lot of people don´t like Ringu, and some prefers, as you, the copy. And i know why is that, because is very complicated to understand what makes this kind of films so special. Is like, if you are used to hear cannons and explosions, probably you won´t hear the rain and the crickets, if you know what i mean.
I read the original book years ago, and the ending is completely different, so the idea of Sadako coming out of the tv was an idea of Nakata, the director. In the american remake, they just copied it, without more imagination than the fast camera movements and fx.
Ringu, on the other hand, was made with very few money. I would like to see what the american movie could be with that amount of money...
Everyway it doesn´t matter, my own brother thinks like you, so i had this argument a lot of times XD
It´s simple, you like one, i like another one. None of us is going to change XD
But everyway, i really find disgusting the remakes, i think the idea of making a film that was made even this same year, just because the actors aren´t american people speaking american, is very sad...
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There was hardly any FX in Psycho either but I found that scary. There were hardly any FX in the original Friday the 13th but I still found that scary. Flower in the Attic isn't even considered a horror movie but there are a lot of elements of suspense in it and it was hugely shocking, but there were no special FX in it at all and it was STILL scarier than Ringu. I don't base a movie soley on FX, although FX do make it seem more realistic. Ringu is just LAME. I would have considered it lame even if I had seen it before The Ring. But then, I've never liked Japanese movies (even though I love anime). I consider them ALL lame. For example, the Godzilla movies. It's so freaking obvious that Godzilla is just an action figure or model and yet we are suppose to think he is a 1000 foot tall lizard? Even Clash of the Titans, as bad as the FX in that movie were, was still more convincing.
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Even though I saw The Ring and have never watched Ringu (I really should get around to watching that) I agree that Sadako would pwn Samara. I still like Samara and enjoyed the Ring.
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Oddly enough I never found either version that terrifying, the ring did give me jumps but that was blatnly forced with the sudden flashes such as a sped up door revealing a dead body. The Ring was still a good movie but I think Ringu crafted the tension a bit better.
Now i did find Ring 0: birthday to be terrifying, the drama was there but so was the tragedy of it. You feel pity but dread with the child sadako roaming about and they do this without flashing a scene at the viewer. I think that movie did the best of the long dark haired shots, the moment sadako accepted her evil side and stood by the cliff with her black hair blowing was an amazing scene.
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I saw Ring 0 years ago, and i liked a lot the end too! Very scary!
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sadako: come back im not done with you
samara: atleast spit your gum out it feels weird
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XD gale of darkness best gamecube game everz
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I have Ringu's complete collection. I like japanese version so more.
"Fear is the only darkness"
-Master Po-
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I could barely watch RingU because the acting was so bad.
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Maybe you just can't read subtitles.
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Actually to say all remakes are bad is stupid as well. In fact, The Grudge Remakes were all directed (The first two american films) by the Same person as the Japanese movies, Takashi shimizu (Or hoever its spelled.)
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Yes, and is exactly the same movie but with american actors. That´s brilliant, no doubt.
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Any film that has to resort to showing a horse commit suicide can never be brilliant.
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Believe me, it would be the other way around.
The Ring was the only movie that terrified me so much I couldn't sleep alone past the age of 16. It literally had me waiting for the phone call, even though I knew it was pure fiction! I was so relieved when my 7 days were up.
Ringu, on the other hand, almost put me to sleep. I kept waiting for something scary to happen and was disappointed right through the very end, when Sadako *finally* came out and did nothing I hadn't already seen a million times before from the nurses in the Silent Hill series.
It is not that I am anti-Japanese/anti-foreign films, it is just that Ringu really was inferior to The Ring on all counts. There was no suspense, Sadako's victims looked too normal ( which is more realistic, true, but much less frightening as anyone and their brother could imitate those same expressions/poses ), so little character-development that I found myself not really caring what happened to anyone, a disappointing lack of symbolism, and to top all that off we don't even get to use our brains and unravel the mystery along with the characters because everyone conveniently has ESP. I watched Ringu because I heard it was better than The Ring, but all the elements I loved so much about The Ring were absent from the original. I noticed that many of the people who thought the original was better cited it's being more realistic as one of their reasons. Um, how is everyone having ESP more realistic than Samara's weird distortion of people's faces?
I say it with pride: yes, remakes can be better than originals, and being American does not automatically make a movie crappy anymore than being Japanese/British/insert-nationality-here automatically makes a movie spectacular.
Now that my rant's out of the way...
Excellent picture. I really like your use of shading: it captures that macabre look well. You get 5/5 points for atmosphere, style, and execution of technique.
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Well, we could have an infinite discussion about that XD
Ringu is a much better film, and i´m going to give you my reasons.
First of all, shen you watch Ringu, you are watching something that is told from reality, everything is normal, and Sadako is the only thing out of our reality. So the movie is not spectacular, it doesn´t try to be, it´s just the opposite.
On the other side, The Ring is all fireworks, fx, and cliches that has been seen a million of times before, nothing is normal and all is artificial. Just compare the cursed videos, just this. The japanese one is really eerie, scary and strange. It made me feel really unconfortable, with some really simple images. Because you see the images, but above all you see what is behind them. And it is supposed to be recorded with someone´s mind, so they are strange, obscure, and chaotic, as it MUST be. In the american version, the cursed video just needs the countdown at the beginning to be more artificial. Look at the composition of the images, the lights, everything: my God, this is a independant short movie, not a mental impression! And because of the fact that the video doesn´t make you feel as bad as it must, they put disgusting images of worms, the figernails being hurted by nails and stupid things like that.
The japanese version needs you cooperation, need you to be there and live it with the characters, and it helps you because of the sense of reality that it gives to you. The american one does all the work for you, doesn´t need a mental implication on it, because it is made for teenagers.
And i am against remakes because i hate the way of thinking that it involves: "oh, what a great film, i´m going to make it better because i´m cool". If something is done, is done, you don´t have to "fix it". There are a lot of stories to tell, let´s stop "fixing" other movies just because they are from other countries wich things we don´t understand well just because we don´t want to know another cultures.
And don´t think i´m against american cinema, some of my favourite movies are american, and most of the cinema i watch is american. But i´m totally against remakes, wherever they comes from.
I had this discussion a lot of times before with friends of mine that don´t like Ringu,and i know it´s unseless, but well, you asked XDD
Thanks for your comment everyway, i hope that at last, you understand my point of view!
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Agreed, Ringu is a far better film. The Ring is basically like waving something shiny in front of a three year old.
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Please excuse me while I laugh at your assertion that Ringu is more realistic. How exactly is a demon-ghost-girl killing people through a cursed video tape even remotely realistic? Even if we grant Sadako special permission to be the only one "removed" from our reality, you still have to explain why the two lead characters and Sadako's mother all have ESP.
I'm not sure how you can say The Ring is clichéd. Other than Ringu, how many other movies have you seen involving a creepy ghost girl that kills people with a magic tape? List them, please, along with all similarities, because I am not seeing where this idea has been overused. In fact, it has been greatly *under* used.
As for special effects, if Ringu had had more of them, perhaps I wouldn't have felt so sleepy watching it. I am against overusing special effects, but I feel The Ring got the balance right.
Regarding the cursed tapes and their imagery, I disagree with you completely. The Ring's images were delightfully grotesque, creepy, and weird. The countdown at the beginning did not make it any more artificial to me: in fact, it only enhanced the weirdness, because it seemed so normal, and the rest of the tape wasn't. Ringu, on the other hand, displayed a bunch of random, not even remotely creepy images, including a man with a towel on his head that made me squirt my drink out my nose with laughter when I saw it because it looked so silly.
How, exactly, does Ringu encourage you to think more? It is Ringu, not The Ring, that features characters who have everything revealed to them through flashes of ESP and do not have to research things for themselves. With The Ring the answers are not nearly so obvious, and you have to work along with the lead characters to unravel the mystery. They don't get those handy flashes of clairvoyance, so neither does the viewer.
Also, Samara is sneakier than Sadako: seeing snippets of her character/history creates some doubt in the viewer as to whether or not she is, in fact, evil, or even to blame for the tape. It is not until the *very* end that you're sure where she stands.
I agree with your assertion that already great movies should not be remade. However, Ringu does not fit that description. There were several areas where it could have been — and was — improved. If you disagree with this, at the very least the remaking made sense to make the movie more relatable to an American audience. Viewers for the remake means more potential viewers for Ringu — indeed, I would not have known the original existed, nor would I have been even remotely interested in watching it, if it were not for the fact that I loved The Ring so. So in this way the remake does Ringu a service by making people more aware of it. Likewise, if it had been released straight to the American public as-is, it would not have made nearly so big a splash. Not because it is Japanese, but because American audiences are used to their horror films being, well,scary, and what people of another cultural may find scary might not exactly be what Americans find scary. The reverse is also true, but I digress. I don't think it's that people aren't interested in other cultures.
I find it weird that you are against ALL remakes, purely because they are remakes. Suppose, by some weird fluke, you watched a truly crappy movie one day. A year or two later, you find yourself enthralled with a movie you absolutely adore, only to find out after it was over that it was a remake of the crappy movie you'd seen earlier. Would you now hate the movie just on principal?
It is a fallacy to say that ALL remakes are crappy unless you have actually seen every remake in the world and the original movie upon which it was based for comparison. Given the amount of time and the mastery of numerous languages this would require — after all, not every movie has that convenient subtitle-in-a-language-you-know option — I think it's a safe bet to assume that you have not. As such, you have to at least admit to the possibility that there might be some good remakes out there, even if you have not seen them.
Bottom line is, some remakes are good, and some are bad. Some American movies are good, and some are bad. I seriously doubt there is any culture anywhere in the world that makes purely good or bad movies.
I am relieved at least to see some defense of Ringu even if I disagree with your reasons: too many people don't elaborate as to why they favor one movie over another, which only leads to more resentment and confusion.
A good friend of mine is on your side on this and likes Ringu better, but for entirely different reasons than the ones you have listed. Horror movies don't scare him at all, so he looks for other elements, and Ringu struck a chord with him. I think he's crazy, lol
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As i told, it´s usseles to discuss about it, as is usseles to discuss about if potatoes are better than salads XDDD Each one have their own preferences, and they are not going to change. For me, The Ring is horrible in comparision, in part because how much i liked Ringu. I understand you like it, because you, as well as me, have a "visual education", in a way of speaking, and this movie is made for you more than the other, wich is slower and different in every way. I know a lot of people who find Ringu really boring, believe me. XDD
About the clichés i told, i didn´t mean about the story, of course, is the same than Ringu! XD I meant visual clichés, scenes, characters, specific situations, the way Samara moves... situations and effects i have seen a million times before, and i find that really boring.
And i don´t mean i am against all remakes, i understand a remake like Superman, 30 years after the movie was done: the public has changed, the fx has improved a lot, so why don´t try to make a modern vision of the movie? Ok. But a remake of a movie that was done a year before, as it happened with "Quarantine", the remake of the spanish "Rec"??? Come on, i understand that is much more money involved if you just buy the rights of the movie and make a remake, but i find it so sad. All this money wasted in remakes could be used to make something new, there are a lot of things to do, and supporting remakes only make the cinema to repeat again and again.
Have you seen the remake of Ju-on (the grudge)and the original one? Is not only the same exact movie (but with american actors), it was made by the same director!! O__o?
We could discuss about it during years, and i don´t think we will change a little our opinion XDD In my case Ringu is a very special movie, as in your case is The Ring.
Now you read the book if you want to see how Hideo Nakata, the japanese director, improved the end XDD
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I was not attempting to change your mind, just defend my case for The Ring. I never try to change anyone's mind, because I realize how stupid and futile that is. But I felt that a lot of your stated reasons for liking Ringu better were invalid, and so wanted to bring up the aforementioned points to hear your answers. Never did I expect to change your mind.
Slow-paced? O.o I didn't feel that Ringu was slow-paced: it's problem was it was too FAST paced, skipping over important opportunities for story-building and character development.
Again, with the situations, characters, scenes, and angles you have seen a million times before, where have you seen them? I have not. If they really are that overused, I should have.
Happily, I shied away from The Grudge after reading a number of really critical reviews. It looked really, really stupid, and didn't interest me in the faintest. As such, I have no interest in seeing the original, though I imagine it probably is better — it would have to be.
I likewise have no desire to read the original book behind Ringu and The Ring. I read spoilers to see if it would be worth my while, and hermaphrodites are not my cup of tea. I seldom read the predecessor books of movies whether I love them or not, though. Rarely do I find it worth my time ( the "Narnia" chronicles being an exception ).
Again, I was not trying to change your mind, just entice you to back up your arguments more, as I was tired of seeing people say "Oh, Ringu is so much better than The Ring!" and then failing to list any reasons beyond "It's a crappy American remake", which they were hard-pressed to prove. But really, it does just boil down to a matter of taste.
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I really feel like a lot of peole make fun of Remakes of J-horror too much. If it wasnt; for the Remake of The Ring, If it hadn't become popular, we might not of known much about what J-horror of that type truly is.
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In my case, i knew the originals of all these remakes years before they did the versions, but i suppose that in some cases it could be as you say. But everyway, a lot of people just watch the remakes, never know about the originals, wich i find sad and unfair... :/
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XD. Amazingly drawn, great job.
I have been wanting to see someone draw this forever and now, hey! Here it is!
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XD I did it just because i didn´t find anybody who had made it!
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Awesome!
SADAKO; You've become an embarassement to me Samara.....
SAMARA; NOOOOO!
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pues yo creo que la version americana de ring es la mejor y al que asuste esta pelicula es mariquita jejejeje... es broma que ya se que te hemos dado mucho la brasa con lo de ringu pero ya hace mucho tiempo
parece increible que lo hayas hecho directamente con el ordenata gud güorc
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Zenquiu berimus!
Es que llevaba meses queriendo hacerle, y no encontraba el momento, asi que agarré la tableta, y ala. Bocadillo de chocolate.
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aaaayy. me da miedo ese dibujo....
pero te ha quedado muy bien, jeje.
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Hehe, gracias, es entre gracioso y de miedo supongo... ^___^U
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Me gusta el acabado (como de paleta) que has logrado.
Me he reido mucho con tu descripción y las figurillas que pusiste
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Hehe, es una pena que no haya un emoticono de sadako
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pues algo así 
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