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Main villain vs. main villainWho will win?
Naruto (c) Masashi Kishimoto
Bleach (c) Tite Kubo
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aizen trollz with hypnotizing abilities. as soon as madara sees aizen all five sences are hypnotized hax boi
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Kind of think Yhwach would be better fighting Madara. I'm going with Azien.
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Despite my heavy prejudices against both these characters cause they're both colossal douche bags, I give it to Madara's, at this point he is just as immortal as Aizen, just as fast, can put Aizen in an illusion just as fast as Aizen can hypnotize him, has far more abilities besides these plus his fan which can reflect energy attacks, his susanoo which can carved canyons with a single swing, can summon both the 9 and 10 tails, put the entire planet in an illusion and drop meteorites from the sky and since obtaining senjutsu powers can essentially use any jutsu ever created and more, Aizen is use to having everything planned out ahead of time in a spontaneous fight with such a well versed opponent Aizen would be on the run
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The fact that he warped time with that Kido, means that it was so insanely powerful, the gravity it produced almost slowed time within its walls.
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Aizen has warped time with a kido that only creates gravity, without saying the spell, or its incantation. We don't actually know how powerful Aizen's kido can actually get, because he has only used that Kido in his evolved state, and there are stronger kido than that one (which he can use) plus he wasn't even using it at its full strength.
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The only Kido Aizen has ever use that could warp space time was Hado number 90 and we saw Ichigo easily shatter that technique with his bare hand, u think Madara who is a creationist God right now can't do the same?
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Sure he can, except that's not what that Kido is meant to do. Plus he didn't use the spirit chant for it, if he did, I doubt Madara would even be there after its usage. Hado number 90 (Black Tower in English), is exactly what it's name implies. It's a black tower, which produces a force of gravity, which hinders the opponent's movements. When Aizen used it, without it's spirit chant, it produced so much gravity, it warped time. Using a kido spell with its chant dramatically increases the effect of said Kido, so if Aizen could warp time without the chant, imagine what he could do with the chant, or even a more powerful kido.
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U keep saying Aizen didn't use it with its chant but he did, in his fight with Ichiho he used the chant and Ichigo shattered it like glass, he used it without it chant on Komamura and failed to kill him as well also the translation is not black tower it's black coffinΒ
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Right I was thinking of when he used it on Komamura, and I believe he said it backfired, else it would have killed Komamura. Also, I know Ichigo shattered it, You don't have to tell me this, it's one of the biggest moments in the fight. And there are still 9 more Hado for Aizen to have used, all which would have had an even more intense effect, had Aizen not been trying to show off, as he was, we probably could have seen him use a stronger Hado.
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He can use every hado he wants, the difference between spiritual pressure and chakra are so miniscule Madara could probably absorb them like he did naruto's rasenshuriken or else reflect them back at Aizen with the Uchiha reflection technique and that's if Aizen has enough time to cast the kido between dodging swings from an army of Susanoo shooting fire dropping meteors and spawning forests of poisonous flowers
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Dude Zaraki casually sliced a meteor in half, and we all know, anything a Captain can do Aizen does better, I don't think meteors are a problem. Hado number 99 which was used by Tessei at the very beginning of the show, is an instant kill after the 3rd stage. Good luck to Madara, also I'd like to see Madara actually even touch Aizen, he'd be throwing off all his Jutsu in random places, places where he thinks he sees Aizen, did we forget that Aizen is literally one of the greatest trolls In the history of ever? (Thank you kyouka)
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1. The meteors Zaraki cut in half were neither as large or as powerful as Madara which were so strong that even with its weight cut in half it took 2 Kage level ninja to even slow down and that was before the second one hitΒ
2. Aizen will have just as much trouble hitting Madara since has soon as the battle starts both are going to be locked in eachother's illusions the difference being Madara's sharingan illusions can become so real they can actually harm a person and unlike with Aizen's sword the illusion doesn't break after he hits them and have to be recast (gin Ichimaru stated that once someone touches Aizen's sword the illusion will be dispelled so every time Aizen strikes someone they are temporarily out of his illusion) so Madara has a direct advantage right there he can main tsun his illusions and continue to do damage, there's also the fact that even while in an illusion Madara's attacks will continue to go off regardless and if that meteor impacts nearby while neither can properly defend they'll both die (or atleast be damaged heavily since neither can really die at this point)
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Okay so wait, both are immortal now, so what's the point of arguing, neither is capable of killing the other.
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Yes Aizen in theory can't die thanks to the hogyoku though it's limits have never been tested and Madara is also theoretically invisible after absorbing the 10 tails however he killed when said power was turned against him and he exploded turning into Kaguya, however prior to that he effectively healed from being cut in half without a problem neither can truly die but Madara has many extensive techniques he likely knows sealing jutsu that could win him the battle by technicallityΒ
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Don't think so, the seal Urahara specifically designed for the Hogyoku is broken and I feel like I'm one of the few people who has noticed that Aizen is no longer in that cell. Here's why, so remember how Kyouraku had one of his eyes shot out? He now wears an eye patch right? Remember that. Now Bach tore down the wall, and basically took Aizen out of his restraints, in order to ask for help, Aizen said no apparently and Bach left it at that. Now remember how I told you Kyouraku is missing an eye? Well, he's seen Lin the Sereitei WITHOUT an eye patch, and he still had that eye.
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Gonna give it to Monster Aizen. it'd be a hell of a fight, but Aizen's level of illusions and actual immortality gives him an edge. madara as the rinne tensei could probably pump out harder hits, but when massively overwhelmed, Aizen tends to jump in strength, I don't see Madara winning this at all.
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They're VERY evenly matched, in fact both are matched in durability, strength, and most other things. However, I'm going to give this to Aizen, his Kyouka Suigetsu is NOT an illusion, it's hypnosis, and it doesn't control the chakra network, like a Genjutsu does, so Madara can't just break it with his Sharingan. Also let's not forget that Aizen is notorious for being the strongest user of Kido spells. While this isn't actually confirmed, so far, he's the only one who has actually warped time with a Kido that isn't actually meant to do such things.
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And the fangirls go wild! XD
I must say, that's a tough call. Aizen's my favorite, but while I came to despise Naruto, I have to admit Madara is pretty powerful and badass to rate on my top 10 favorite villains. He actually is more than a match for Aizen.
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Just finished seeing all of Aizen's fighting in Bleach and, not considering he was trolled when he was defeated, I think that he and Madara would be pretty evenly matched. Aizen's immortality would make most think he'd win since Madara can't kill him, but as the Ten-Tails jinchuriki, Madara also seems to be immortal thanks to all the tailed beasts and the Gedo Mazo with its tremendous life force being within him, and just like Aizen, he can regenerate even lost limbs thanks to having Hashirama's healing abilities, which are like the Hogyoku. So my best assessment is that they would stalemate.
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Madara could break said illusions with his Sharingan. Though a fight where these two troll each other would be hilarious.Β
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Except the Sharingan could only break the illusions if it had to deal with Madara's chakra network, which Aizen's illusions don't so that wouldn't work.
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I find this a weak argument, because by that logic Genjutsus would not work even vs. random humans in Bleach because the concept of Chakra does not exist in Bleach.
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Aren't chakra and spirits pressure the same? Both utilize spiritual energy ofΒ a person don't they?
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no chakra uses a combination of spiritual and physical energy (literally ki). Β Chakra needs both to work shinigami for all their power are still dead they don't actually have a living body. Β Hence it is impossible for them to have the ki to make chakra. Β hence no chakra for the Genjutsu to latch onto.
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That is correct. Genjustsu specifically target the chakra network to cause illusions, if there is no chakra network there is nothing for the genjutsu to interfere with and thus no illusions would be made.
Aizen's illusions would be crippling against Madara, Madara's genjutsu wouldn't even touch Aizen.
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What I was saying is, that you cannot apply the world logic 1-1 in all cases. In another example, people (correctly) stated Darth Vader would win vs. Batman. But considering Force is made up from Midi-Chlorians which only exist in the Star Wars U, he would be powerless in Gotham City. This is a bit unfair because it would often undermine the purpose of the characters fighting at their full strength.
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You're comparing apples to oranges. Midi-Chlorians don't make up the force, they allow people to use it: From the Star Wars "Wookieepedia" "Though the Force was thought to flow through every living thing, its power could only be harnessed by beings described as "Force-sensitive." This Force-sensitivity was correlated with, and sometimes attributed to, a high count of internal microorganisms called midi-chlorians that were found in a Force-sensitive's blood." The lack of midi-Chlorian's in Gotham doesn't change the fact that they are in Vader, and so Vader would still be able to use his Force ability to its fullest.
All of that would apply to Chakra as well, the lack of it in the Bleach universe wouldn't take away Madara's innate Chakra reserves/network. You can't jump from that to "therefore genjutsu would work on Aizen," you still have to deal with two facts 1) Genjutsu specifically targets chakra networks and 2) Aizen doesn't have Chakra networks.
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Hmm, tough call. Β Might have to go with Madara just because he knows cloning.
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