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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to TecuciztecatlOcelotl [2019-05-29 20:05:46 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I think New Bully on the Block is as hated as Arnold Betrays Iggy, and for good reason. Phoebe's Little Problem was OK.

I can count in both hands so many post-Season 10 episodes that range from mediocre to bad that I'd willingly rewatch over My Sister, My Sitter ever again!

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TecuciztecatlOcelotl In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2019-05-31 04:59:05 +0000 UTC]

I never saw New Bully on the Block being as hated as Arnold Betrays Iggy personally, but I'm glad to hear from you that episode is being disliked.

My sister, My sitter is one of the reasons I wish the show ended after season 8 or 9.

However, the majority of the episodes from season 11 and onwards damaged the series a lot more to me, like the death of Maude Flanders, for example. At least with My sister my sitter you can skip that garbage and pretend it doesn't exists, but you can't ignore Maude's death unfortunately because it causes a negative effect on any episode after that. To me the worst episodes are the ones that cause a negative effect on later episodes and plotlines.

Don't get me wrong, I support you totally about what you say about that episode, I hate how Bart is portrayed there. The shocking thing is that it was made by the same writer who made "Summer of 4 Ft. 2". Seriously, what happened there? 

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to princessbinas [2015-07-22 17:39:49 +0000 UTC]

I understand that, but for me it just didn't work and felt like the series insulting itself.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to SonicAndTailsfan64 [2015-06-11 04:22:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I also thought The Cleveland Show's Hurricane episode was the best of the three (even if it was also flawed).

This list is kinda outdated now though as Hurricane! would now be 4th worst as Seizure Suit Stanny would take it's place for 3rd worst.

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SonicAndTailsfan64 In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-06-11 17:06:55 +0000 UTC]

it's ok, but i'm glad we agree

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to SonicAndTailsfan64 [2015-06-11 20:39:01 +0000 UTC]

Same here. OK, but it could've easily been worse. Junior's out of nowhere atheism was definitely the worst part about it.

The entire Night of the Hurricane! crossover idea was one that I thought was ill-conceived as each episode was worse than the previous and the only time they combined all three shows was during the last minute of the 3rd part! To me, that was borderline false advertising.

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SonicAndTailsfan64 In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-06-11 20:47:41 +0000 UTC]

agreed

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to DaBair [2015-05-25 01:01:04 +0000 UTC]

A few of these choices are ones that I guess you would consider 'cliché' such as The Big Cheese/The Lil' Peas, Sundae Muddy Sundae, and New Bully on the Block as they are ones that most people in their respective fandoms despise. But yeah, a few choices on here such as the ones for American Dad!, 15 Minutes of Parker, and Pahk'd with Talent you likely won't find on many other similar lists.

Aside from one or two jokes, I didn't think it was all that funny and I felt like the series was kinda insulting itself by taking some of the show's more serious moments and playing them totally for laughs. I'll even go as far as to say that this is a worse episode than The Great Divide.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2015-04-09 03:15:14 +0000 UTC]

The whole Night of the Hurricane event wasn't well planned out in my opinion since to me it felt like each following episode was worse than the last with The Hurricane being the 'best'.

The reason why Hurricane! is the worst of the three for me is because there something for me to complain about in it every five seconds! I'll admit that I didn't mind it when it originally aired in October 2011, but I tried watching it again twice last year and gave up both times (5 minutes in the first time, 15 minutes in the second time) because it turned out to be so much worse than I remembered. Though the criticisms for Seahorse Seashell Party are valid even if I'm in the minority of people who don't see that as the worst of the three.

With that said, at least this episode isn't The Shrink as I would rather kill myself before seeing that unholy piece of shit EVER again!

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-04-09 04:16:36 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, the way that the rest of the family bashed Cle Ju for not believing in god/being ignorant Christians didn't sit well with me compared to American Dad!.  Don't get me wrong though, I'm a Christian myself, but I don't judge, and given how the reason Junior doesn't believe in god is because his mom said that God forgave her for cheating on his dad with Quagmire, I don't blame him.

And now I'm curious as to why you hate The Shrink.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2015-04-09 20:09:46 +0000 UTC]

That's why I put 'best' in quotes because even the one episode of the crossover that I disliked the least still had something worth complaining about. Plus, Cleveland Jr. being an atheist was pretty much pulled out of thin air the same way it happened to Brian.

For starters, half hour episode that took me nearly an hour to finish because it kept pissing me off making it one of the hardest episodes of any series I've had to sit through. Plus, the fact that they allowed that episode to air which honestly had less effort in it than all the episodes of American Dad! that feel like rejected Family Guy scripts just with the character names changed and make it so insanely fucking bad is why I consider it the worst. It says something when this episode makes me WANT to watch Sky Fall & Pahk'd with Talent even though I still refuse to watch or finish them to this very day (never seen Pahk'd with Talent but tried watching Sky Fall last August and gave up 10 minutes in).

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-04-09 21:15:42 +0000 UTC]

I'll give you that, earlier episodes had Brian say "Thank God" or God in a non negative way, but at least with Junior he gave sound reasoning and isn't as much of a dick about it as Brian.

That doesn't answer my question, that's just a general statement.  What are some details about why you think it sucks?

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2015-04-11 00:49:43 +0000 UTC]

Yes there's reasoning for Junior's atheism, but it still doesn't excuse how it's out of nowhere and contradicts the earlier seasons when he was shown to not have a problem with attending church with the rest of his family. 

There are a lot of reasons, but for me it boils down to the usual suspect for why I don't like most of the Stan centric episode theses days - He causes his own problems, which puts his family in grave danger, only for him to learn a lesson that he will instantly forget. Except that this one is special in terms of how it's much worse than the majority by having an insane script that clearly wasn't proof-read.

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-04-11 02:40:36 +0000 UTC]

Eh, in later episodes of The Simpsons, Lisa still goes to Church even though she's Buddhist, odds are it's a "As long as the parents have to go, everybody has to go" type of thing, plus he might not have decided to be atheist back then/he didn't come out of the closet so to speak.

Ah.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2015-04-11 03:07:32 +0000 UTC]

I also saw it as the Took a Level in Jerkass route that all the eldest sons in Seth's show have gone through as he became less likable shortly thereafter (even though I honestly thought he wasn't all that great of a character in the first place).

You mentioning The Simpsons just reminded me, have you heard they're not making DVD sets for the show anymore?

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-04-11 04:14:17 +0000 UTC]

Aw.

Why?  Does Matt finally have enough money to afford a solid gold space ship and he's leaving Earth to go have space adventures?

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2015-04-11 04:25:37 +0000 UTC]

According to Al Jean, the home video market is a dying one so Season 18 onwards will be released via digital distribution only...

If you as me, that's complete BS because I'm sure there are people out there like me who would prefer a physical copy rather than a download (and if I have a download of an episode or movie, I tend to delete it once I have it in physical form). At least it makes it easier for someone to catch up on the DVDs they don't have yet now that they aren't releasing anymore.

I'll also confess that I thought The Simpsons peaked after 10 seasons and started going into a rot in the 11th when Maude was killed off.

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-04-11 04:56:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh.  Well, if they're still doing them only via digital it's okay then since if you lose the physical copy you have to buy a new one, but if you lose your computer or what not, you still have it on the cloud.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to YuraofthehairFan [2015-04-01 20:21:18 +0000 UTC]

No there isn't. That's just my made-up title for it because of how the episode is peppered with literal poop jokes. The real title is The Bold and the Booty-ful.

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YuraofthehairFan In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-04-01 21:28:09 +0000 UTC]

ahh ok I haven not watched a lot of that show I watched a few of toltal drama island when it 1st came out but not sure of the newer ones or just never home

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to air30002 [2015-03-31 20:45:24 +0000 UTC]

It premiered just last night (I'll get into why that's a bad thing in a bit), and this episode is pretty much what Sundae Muddy Sundae is to Akira and so many others in which talking about it long enough will give me an full-on aneurysm! Let's just say you have to try pretty hard to make something with absolutely ZERO effort in it that it makes me want to watch Pahk'd with Talent or Sky Fall! It feels like something Terry would write (he isn't the writer by the way) but also if he was stoned off his motherfucking ass!

This is one of the hardest episodes of any series I've had to sit as it took me almost an hour to finish it. And this was another case of the universe going 'FUCK YOUR BIRTHDAY!' by having it air yesterday and making it the worst case of something like this happening yet!

Thanks, The Shrink is the reason why I made it. Have any questions regarding the others?

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air30002 In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-03-31 21:15:52 +0000 UTC]

I read the plot line. It sounds weird, and kind of pointless (a lot of pointless). I swear, you have the absolute worst luck with animation on your birthday.

I pretty much agree with the rest with no complaints.

BTW, Happy one day after yor birthday! (Is this a bad time?)

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to air30002 [2015-03-31 21:21:21 +0000 UTC]

Not even Family Guy would make an episode this fucking bad (yes, I said it)! Was it the overall synopsis or the actual detailed plot on the Wiki? I do it seems, and this is one in which the fallout from it in my personal life makes me despise it even more (don't really wanna talk about it at this time).

No, that's fine. Just trying to recover from The Shrink. Be glad you gave up on American Dad! when you did.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2015-03-31 17:27:32 +0000 UTC]

Boss Mabel & Carpet Diem both pretty much suffer the same fate of being VERY hard for me to sit through. Boss Mabel for how it seemed like she was going to lose until the last second (doesn't excuse that it was still hard to sit through) and Carpet Diem for how Dipper & Mabel's fighting was very uncomfortable to watch. I'm also not fond of any of the Lil' Gideon episodes mostly because I don't like the character.

My problem with The Ember Island Players is how it how it feels like the series is insulting itself by taking a lot of their most serious moments and completely playing them up for laughs.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-03-31 17:32:19 +0000 UTC]

I still find them okay, and while I do feel the whole Dipper and Mabel fighting felt pretty forced (I know siblings have a tendency to do that, but still. I'd think they're more mature than that.) I thought the humor and ending more than made up for it though.

...Probably, but I feel it's the characters' reactions to the play and how they're depicted in it is what made it work.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-03-31 17:23:44 +0000 UTC]

Doesn't surprise me that you don't remember New Bully on the Block, because it suffered the same fate as Arnold Betrays Iggy.

I'm part of the minority that hates The Bold and the Shitty-ful more than Sundae Muddy Sundae because of those literal shit jokes. The lack of toilet humor prior to this episode was one of the few positives I could say about this season before this abortion came along and pissed that away.

Sundae Muddy Sundae is on here pretty much for the fact that they allowed it (an episode written by one of the biggest dumbfucks they've ever hired) to exist when it should not have to begin with.

Jasmine's elimination automatically makes Sky Fall THAT bad for me at least because it's the definitive example of this series have to insult their audience's intelligence for forced bullshit plot reasons. For me, Pahk'd with Talent is the most overrated episode of the whole series as I believe people only like it because that fat cunt finally got eliminated and you're NOT allowed to dislike it at all (especially on the Wiki)! Which is pointless to celebrate as she made it to 3RD, caused so much irreparable damage, and pulled a Karma Houdini by suffering no punishment for any of her actions (losing your own specifically designed challenge does not count either). The episode is another example of this season having to blatantly insult their audience's intelligence for how forced and rigged everything was to the point where Bullshit Logic: The Episode is a much more apt title.

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OldSchoolCartoonFan In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2018-02-08 05:19:49 +0000 UTC]

I felt TDPI was a bullshit generation. This is the first season where the main villain leaves without any repercussion. This would happen again in TDRR, in which the Ice Dancers leave the season without any punishment for their crimes. It can be argued that Josee and Jacques would've been thrown in prison in real life. Josee for destruction of intellectual property, while Jacques would be there to counsel Josee.

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-03-31 17:32:16 +0000 UTC]

Good. If it's that bad an episode, then it should be barred. Arnold Betrays Iggy is another unnecessarily cruel and pointless episode.

The toilet humor is only the tip of the iceberg. But thankfully, virtually nobody defends this episode.

I still feel hurt and betrayed over what this episode did as so many others do. I mean NO character, NOBODY should be put through the hell this episode was. I don't know what they intended to gain by this. I intend to find out what the deal was if possible.

Not the first time we've seen a dumb elimination in this series, but I've seen dumber. But that's not the sole problem with it. But I didn't feel my mind assaulted by it either.

Same with Pahk'd with Talent, I really don't think it's that terrible. I think you need to ease up just a little on the Sugar hate throttle, she lost by her own hand, which actually is kind of fitting giving her lack of intelligence and taste.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-03-31 17:51:38 +0000 UTC]

I think I saw this episode only once more when Hey Arnold! was still on Nick which was sometime between 2001 and 2003, can't say for sure. Although I can definitely say that I remember seeing Arnold Betrays Iggy in May of 2005.

I think they wanted to please Courtney haters... But they failed considering that not even .1% of Courtney haters actually like this episode.

Doesn't make up for how I have to deal with her for another 22 minutes before she gets booted. Until The Shrink (which aired just last night), that was one of the sorriest excuses for an 'episode' that I've ever seen of any series.

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-03-31 18:00:35 +0000 UTC]

Fans never take well to airings of that episode.

I don't know about that, but they were setting themselves up for the fall here and nothing excuses it, and the outrage it caused is pretty justified. There were some major Courtney haters who did not bother to defend it, I remember clearly. Some still do, but some did not. Probably the closest the two sides came to agreeing on something. That it was an episode that went way too far. This episode was clearly out to destroy her when she was already a deeply troubled character. And that is not okay, NO character should have to endure this. I will make sure they understand the full nature of the fandom's hate for this thing. Still ranked as one of the worst almost all the time.

Like I said, you should ease up a little. Sugar is bad, but not THAT bad. If we find out she committed genocide in another lifetime, then maybe. I don't like her either, but still.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2015-03-31 18:05:44 +0000 UTC]

Nick apparently reran Arnold Betrays Iggy early last year, and the feedback was just as (if not more) negative as when it originally aired more than 15 years ago.

Not on my Top 5 for the series, but easily my Top 10 again simply for the fact that it exists.

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-03-31 18:06:53 +0000 UTC]

Definitely wrong to tempt fate that way.

For me it's tied with Wreck-ening as absolute worst. I can't decide which I hate more so I say they share the slot.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to cjstod942 [2015-03-31 15:56:58 +0000 UTC]

I don't hate it to the same extent as many other fans of the original series (I watch it more on a 'can this be worse than the last?' type of level), but I'd be lying if I said it doesn't piss me off with their tendencies to slap the original series in the face.

Multiple Trick Pony continues the trend of pissing on secondary characters from the original series, this time being Kid Flash. It's about him beating Robin in a race and becoming the new leader of the Titans. Robin then challenges him to another race where he CHEATS by smashing his knee with his staff and the episode ends with the rest of the Titans leaving Kid Flash behind as he begs to be taken to the hospital.

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cjstod942 In reply to JohnMarkee1995 [2015-03-31 16:01:15 +0000 UTC]

It is a slap in the face.

I see. So Toddler Robin is a designated hero yet again.

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JohnMarkee1995 In reply to cjstod942 [2015-03-31 16:03:51 +0000 UTC]

Yep. This was also the episode where I hated him enough to rank him next to Toddler Beast Boy & Cyborg as the worst of the main characters.

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