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josephrocca — The Old Lake

Published: 2014-04-27 06:30:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 317; Favourites: 5; Downloads: 0
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Description My first proper piece! I started learning near the start of 2014, so this piece is after about 4 months practice - and I try to practice a minimum of 30 minutes a day. I'll try to post one of these each week along with a time-lapse video.

Timelapse: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EguWoY…
Time: 2 hours 50 mins
Tools: Wacom Bamboo, Photoshop CS6

Thoughts:
I did this piece about a month ago (I didn't have a DA account at that point), and looking back on it now, the biggest thing I think needed improving was the pillars. They could have looked a little more 'rocky' maybe. And the buildings - they don't really look like buildings. I'd really appreciate any critiques if you've got a moment!

I think up until doing this one, I felt a little constrained by Photoshop - like if I made a mistake it was going to be a mission to fix it, but I remember the point where I decided to scrap the cliff on the left and within minutes a had something that looked nicer! So yeah, I guess I'm getting more confident with the medium/software, and that feels like that's a pretty important step.
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Comments: 14

Karantheartist [2014-07-02 12:41:26 +0000 UTC]

Ok, Joseph, first let me say wow! This is pretty cool, I like how you put broken ships at the bottom of this 'Old Lake', although I think you made the mountains in the background a bit to blurry maybe use a reference such as: www.13ergirl.com/BrownMountain… to get a good view and a new texture to the mountains. And the ship closer to the bottom of the painting, to me must have fallen down, if it's on a tilt (like in the painting) try covering the borders with sand, also the sand should look more dry as it is a 'Old Lake'. I found a good tutorial for you on drawing sand and how to give it a sort of dry texture: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aClX6T… a good tutorial on how to help make your sand look realistic even though it's mostly on the guys art, but you can see the process. Also I think you should focus more on the main mountains (the one's that connect the bridges) Maybe give the insides of the mountain caves more of a 'hollow look' by making the insides a bit more darker on the right. Also to the left of the mountain on the right, since I'm guessing the light source is coming from the top right corner, must have a shadow in maybe 45 degree perspective so the shadow had a lower shadow than the mountains with the bridges. Also, the bridges, they should have gaps in between the planks, in order for it to look like a bridge, use a source like this: www.999images.com/narrow-woode… to show how much of a gap should be in between the planks, and they don't have to be equal, it will add to the feeling of a wooden bridge in the middle of nowhere. And the child on the bridge (correct me if I'm mistaken), I am unsure which way she or he is facing, is she going home or out into the wild. If she's heading home, show the back of her and a bit of shadow behind her and he hair behind her giving the feeling that she's going home. Also I think you should use reference for the mountain buildings, maybe you should use a reference (sorry I couldn't find one) Lastly, the ropes add more texture to the ropes by using a reference and give it a 'twisted' look, instead of drawing lines, also with the knots on the beginning of the bridge, maybe you should look at reference or tie a rope around a pole to give you more of an understanding on how it should look, I found a reference that may help you: i14.tinypic.com/4brhzkh.gif

All in all Joseph I think you did fairly well but make sure to use references well, and make them be as realistic as possible. I would give you an 8.5/10, looking forward to seeing more of your stuff!

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NinniKittyThatCat [2014-05-10 15:03:28 +0000 UTC]

my critique for you!

I really love the colours in this art work, it gives it a sort of dangerous yet lonely look. it reminds me of the hobbit and avatar. But you are right about the pilars, they now look ice they are made of wool. And the details should be a bit clearer. you mght can use a little more red or something like that to give this work a bit more boost. Also it just all fades away in the background wich is nice if the front is clearer. Now it all seems very dark and depressing. Also the ships sould be standing out a little more, and I noticed that the brigdes don't go near all the pilars wih could have given it a bit more of a story (if you understand what I mean).
but all by all it's really hrd to say things abouut it, since it also looks beautifull in this fading out way, you know?

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josephrocca In reply to NinniKittyThatCat [2014-05-13 02:22:13 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Great critique, lots of actionable tips

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Kai-Kita [2014-05-05 20:52:11 +0000 UTC]

This is really beautiful, though I think there are tons of places for improvement!
Seeing as this is somewhat in a desert like area, try adding more vibrant colors such as shades of reds, oranges, cream colors, and dusty yellows, but over all, your color tactic is amazing. Also, with the mounds of rocks sticking up from the ground, I suggest you make them look more worn out (seeing there was water there, maybe a few ruins as well and some tried fungi) and a bit of sharpness and texture wouldn't hurt a bit! As for the houses, try adding in more of a frame to them, (like fixing their posture a bit so they look more slanted and worn out from over the years, and have more life and texture to them). And for the hills/mountains on the side (far right) try making them look more bold and standing out, rather then melting away into the ground.

I hope this helped for future reference!

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josephrocca In reply to Kai-Kita [2014-05-06 05:53:44 +0000 UTC]

Awesome! So many great tips that I can put into action straight away! This is a great critique - thanks

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Kai-Kita In reply to josephrocca [2014-05-06 13:39:50 +0000 UTC]

Welcome! I'm so glad that I could be of service to you

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iamdjp0n3rules111 [2014-05-05 19:44:41 +0000 UTC]

This... this is beautiful.

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josephrocca In reply to iamdjp0n3rules111 [2014-05-10 06:02:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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iamdjp0n3rules111 In reply to josephrocca [2014-05-10 15:07:59 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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xXChronoCrusadeXx [2014-05-05 19:38:00 +0000 UTC]

This painting is fantastic. It just goes to show how vast and overall beautiful our surroundings can be.
I love tiny details, and the boat in the middle of a dried up area just speaks so much with being so little at the same time. The small houses perched upon the top of the pillar is also absolutely stunning, as well as the stretch of the bridge as it's distance almost seems endless.

The blurring of the entire painting does certainly draw attention. How the closer surroundings should defiantly have a much clearer view before beginning to blur and fade out as the distance continues throughout the painting. Like the bridge, for example!

The sky is one of my favorite parts of this piece. How you can clearly see the layers of the clouds closer to the viewer, fading off into the further, much lighter portion of the clouds in a whole. How they take the slightly sandy, brownish hue the surrounding sand would give off as it's constantly blown with the wind. 
Along with the mountain hiding to the left behind the clouds, very nicely handles with the blur the distance, as well as the overall cloudiness it would create.

Lastly, the mountain to the right needs the most work on. It's barely giving off any detail and the shadow along it is casted a little too far, giving the feel that something is towering behind it that no one can see off of the painting. It should have the shadow pulled back just a bit more to match with the other upon the beginning of the bridge.

Overall, this painting stole my heart. I give it an absolute 8/10~

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josephrocca In reply to xXChronoCrusadeXx [2014-05-06 05:49:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks -  great critique! You're a little too nice to me though totally get you with the blurriness and the lack of detail in the mountains. Thanks again!

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xXChronoCrusadeXx In reply to josephrocca [2014-05-06 06:16:56 +0000 UTC]

You can never be too nice! Despite the flaws, the painting itself is amazing work. It's a close third to your work so far, following Disem-bough. Glad you love my critique and please keep up the amazing work. It truly encourages ,e to put a paintbrush to a canvas.  

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wizzerd347 [2014-04-28 02:54:57 +0000 UTC]

I agree with your thoughts on the pillars and buildings, they don't look quite right. I think there should be more bridges in the background, and that the foreground should be clearer. the painting gets too blurry too soon, I feel like the first pillar should be easy to see and then start blurring the details. the sky could also do with some work.

the buildings need more character, think of a purpose they serve and paint them so they look accordingly. Let the audience actually see the buildings, I want to know what it looks like, not just that it's there!

The bottom right hand side of the painting is a bit bland, try to break it up a bit like you did further along with hills and rocks. 

The concept is great, I love the boat down in the dried up lakebed. I just might have to build this in minceraft. I also really like the way the bridge looks, and the person walking along it.

look up some tutorials on skies and texturing, it'll improve your work a LOT!

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josephrocca In reply to wizzerd347 [2014-04-28 05:35:34 +0000 UTC]

That's so much awesome feedback! I especially see what you mean about the general blurriness and the bottom right. I've had other critique it to see what I can improve and no one pinpointed all the problems so well. I really appreciate it dude - thanks

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