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Published: 2012-03-03 17:18:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 1263; Favourites: 17; Downloads: 13
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I have been thinking about Lucius and Severus' relationship, lately, and from all the musings have come out several ideas I'd like to develop. This is one of them, of course...It's a bit difficult to describe feelings as 'friendship' among Slyhterins, because giving without being given anything back is inconceivable, for them.
But there's something weird going on between Snape and the Malfoys: Narcissa went to Severus to seek help and protection, because he is "Lucius' old friend"... a strong action for such a cold, close, careful woman, full of implications barely described.
Hints, as usual, and almost anything to work on.
But there's this tiny voice in my head that wonders...
My answer's probably that they were as friends as two old snakes could be.
So, in this piece, Severus and Lucius, strolling around the gardens of the Manor, somewhere in their late teens or early twenties. Lucius is probably chattering about his imminent marriage, and Severus enjoys the dry humor.
Flowers:
- Wisteria, for disinterested friendship;
- Lilium, for friendship again;
- Asphodelus, for respect and courtesy;
- Carnation, for fidelity;
- Wallflowers, for allegiance through hard times;
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Pencils, ink and watercolours.
Characters belong to JKR
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I love Lucius and Severus friendship. Of course I only believe that the their friendship was built on the fact the they are polar opposites. I felt the Lucius Severus and Regulus where all really close friends (although I ship Severus with both of them too at some points but that another story).
This is amazing. This is just how I see book Severus (sallow skin, a large nose, and long greasy-like hair)
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Lucius and Severus' friendship is a tricky matter. They have too many dangerous secrets to trust each other completely the way we suppose friends do. Severus is a traitor to Voldemort. Lucius is a politician and a manipulator. They stay together because it benefits them both, but I'd still dare to say tha they're kind of close, somehow. As close as two wary snakes can be.
To me, Regulus and Lucius could only be close for convenience. If we take Reg as he haughty, snobbish pureblood described in the books, he'd be too sneaky and sly to trust one of his own kind, especially Lucius, so older than him. For the same reasons, more or less, I can't see Regulus thinking Severus worthy of his attention, not before the Dark Mark. And at that point, his change of mind overturned everything...
But if we want to speculate on it than yes, they may be. I've been a LuciusxSeverus shipper in my teens, for a brief moment! Now I'm pretty much an exclusive RABxSS shipper...
Drawing Severus from the books is hard. I rather like this look I found for him, but it's a never-ending struggle. Glad you mentioned it, though: I try as much as I can to avoid the movie influence (but then, I don't even consider him Snape)...
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Its funny because RABxSS just kinda of happen to me and I love the pairing. I was originally a BC Jr./RAB shipper (Barty Crouch Jr. and Regulus Black)and I somehow found a RABxSS fanfic called Heartlock (which the reltionship started just how you descripted it) and I fell in love with RABxSS. The only other pairing I still ship Severus in is Snupin(it like my guilty pleasure)
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Yes! I'm a Snupineer too! I used to ship many different pairings, but lately I've toned it down to RABxSS (my new shiny OTP), Snupin (my weakness), and sometimes, when I need something stronger, Snack (as in SiriusxSeverus). I've heard there are several BartyxRegulus shippers around, but the pairing didn't caught me, so I never read anything on those lines... I've never been interested in shipping Regulus with anyone but Severus, I fear!
Can you link me that fic? Because (horror!) I think I never read it: is it complete?
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[link] it's really good and Yes it is complete 
I use to ship SiriusxSeverus (I'ma sucker for a good love/hate pairing)
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My OTP and one of my favourite kinks! I didn't even know such a thing existed! *cries all the happy tears*
Thank you, you just made my night.
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To me this smacks of Grecian influence. Lucius as Zeus and as his Brother Hades Severus.
Even the flowers you used and their meanings are Grecian......and the style seems like that you find on a urn in the national musiam. I am impressed and inspired.
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To be honest, I've never thought of it this way, and I'm positively impressed you were able to see something like that in it.
Knowing a bit of mythology myself, I can see qhat you mean: I would not think of Lucius as a Zeus, but on a (allow me the expression) "superficial" level, the association works well, specially given the feeling of Day&Night I wanted to convey.
Thank you very much for your comment, you gifted me some very valuable words to describe a feeling I only had in my mind!
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I'm very glad to be of assistance being a writer has some advantages when it come to description. I think its a remarkable piece of art. And perhaps your right. I would have said Helios but Helios and Hades were not that chummy and in mythology never really interacted. Hence Zeus: More powerful, More beautiful, and in control of everything above while tricking his brother and comrade below ....certainly seems the relationship between snape and lucius.
I'm so very glad that people are still adding so much detail to their art.
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Lucius more powerful than Severus? Hah! Lucius is foolishly flashy; Severus wisely keeps quiet about it. The tough, working-class half-blood from Spinner's End can clean the floor with that arrogant fop, but Lucius will never know it unless he crosses Sev in something important.
Hades gets everyone in the end. Everyone.
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hades was only god of the underworld because he was tricked....in essence he was more powerful than zues which is why zeus feared him enough to send him to the underworld. I have read enough of my bullfinches mythology to know. Yes, Hades does get everyone in the end. Rather unfortunate that severus doesnt. -wipes away a tear- atleast he clears his name and is regarded as a hero as he should be.
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Zeus is more powerful than Hades, but Malfoy isn't Zeus. Either Voldemort or Dumbledore is Zeus. Malfoy might be Apollo.
But yes, Severus is Hades.
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ok not an argument worth having. Still an awsome picture.
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It wasn't an argument, just a discussion.
But you're right that it's been discussed enough.
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Its just so hard to tell tone of voice in text I never know when I have offended or annoyed somebody....I defend my points of view strenuously (something I learned from having a lawyer for a father you always feel like your in court) and I never actually know when to stop arguing my case. So I either stop in the middle or go to far.
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I have the same problem. I guess we both know not to get offended, or take things too seriously.
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totally right. We just have strong ideas and opinions. It makes for great discussions. Those are the kinds of talks where the mysteries of life get solved.
I actually figured out which came first the chicken or the egg.
If you believe in creationism It was the chicken. Because god would have created the chicken which would have laid the egg. Simple. But if you believe in evolution a chicken esc creature would have l aid an egg that made a creature somewhat more like a modern chicken which would laid eggs containing those same creatures until one day a an egg contained a creature more like a chicken and so on and so forth until the egg laid contained a chicken ....there for the egg came first.
Its all up to what u believe. (or if your like me who believes that god put evolution in motion because we have no idea what a day is to god, its sort of a mixture of both. the egg laid the chicken)
and THAT came from a discussion of people with strong ideas.
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I have a love-hate relationship with peacocks...
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It's pure Gryffindor propaganda that claims it's impossible for Slytherins to be friends without some sort of payback or exchange. On the other hand, I do think it's quite likely that DEATH EATERS are never friends without some sort of payback or exchange.
Canon tells us nothing about the private relationship between Lucius and Severus, so we can do what we please. On principle I don't care for Severus in a dress, but I like the drawing.
I can imagine it's an Alternate Universe with a female Severus. I'll call her Julia, after Julia Domna, second wife of the Emperor Septimius Severus. And yes, she's in love with Lily. Lucius is not her type, only he's too self-absorbed to realize it.
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The gryffindor-ish point of view from which the whole tale is told leaves very little credit to Slytherin House: the very first impression Harry has of the Slytherins, is that "they looked an unpleasant lot" (though is expressed the tiny doubt that, it could have been Harry's imagination to make him think such a thing, after all he heard about that House); until the very end, JKR's portrait of her snakes is not particularly nice and their interactions, though barely mentioned, don't seem permeated by strong feelings: I'm thinking about "The Slug Club", chapter of HBP in which Harry follows Zabini into his compartment, where he spies on Malfoy, Crabbe, Goyle, Parkinson and Zabini himself; or even "The Polyjuice Potion" in CoS, where Harry and Ron reach Slytherin's Common Room disguised as Crabbe and Goyle and meet Malfoy.
I'm not very happy with this kind of biased vision for which Slytherins = Bad people in every sense. Most of all, because there are hints of true feelings among them: Lucius and Narcissa, in my opinion, truly loved each other, Regulus was capable of affection and respect (towards those he loved most), Severus knew self-sacrifice...
On the other hand I can't ignore their personalities (lucius' and Severus', in this case): we're speaking of ambitious men, reluctant to show some kind of weakness and not very keen to trust; there are secrets between them, unspoken things, unrevealed truths. And of course they're both DE, which makes the act of trusting harder.
I can't describe it with many other words apart from "As friends as two old snakes can be", because in my opinion there ARE some deep, true feelings between them and a small spark of affection (from Severus towards Lucius) and respect and trust (from Lucius towards Severus), feelings that can earn them the label of "friends"; to me, though, it's a kind of friendship, though, different from the one shared by the Marauders (Pettigrew apart), because different are the personalities of the main characters involved: "James would have regarded it as the height of dishonour to mistrust his friends" says Lupin, conviction that I can't see applied to Lucius and Severus and to Slytherins way of thinking, generally.
As for Severus' outfit, I may have taken too much liberty with the concept of "robes" wizards are supposed to wear, but I didn't want to put him in a dress (not in this case, at least). Lucius should wear robes too, being a pure-blood and all, but his attire, in my head, suited my idea of "Day" more, just as Severus' was more fitting for my idea of "Night". Though I enjoy slash, I've never been able to truly consider them as a couple, legitimate or not: Lucius is in love with Narcissa, and he's totally straight to me. Besides, he's not Severus' type.
They work ver well as friends, to me, but not as a couple.
(I didn't know that he emperor's second wife had my same name, nice coincidence... 
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I love your colors and the symbolism of the plants! Also like that you put Severus, who is not as "open" and probably guards his secrets closer in the shadows. I love your young Lucius and the white peacock!
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And I put him in shadows also because he'ssupposed to be the "Night" in "Day&Night"!
That whit peacock is more sketched than anything 
Wonder what's its name is...
Thank you for your words
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