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ScarlettSDS In reply to ??? [2021-08-30 19:05:14 +0000 UTC]
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HypnoticSwirls [2015-10-26 01:47:03 +0000 UTC]
What even with the whole "Hackamores shouldn't be used by inexperienced riders"? Sorry but I'm not gonna let my horse's mouth get torn up by an inexperienced rider who doesn't know what soft hands are.
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IrishWolf2468 In reply to PinkLionArt [2017-09-26 19:01:09 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry but are there actual cases of a properly, key word here is properly fitted, fitted hackamore (which might i add can generalise any bitless bridle from scrawbrig to bosal to sidepull to crossunder) breaking a nose?
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PinkLionArt In reply to IrishWolf2468 [2017-09-26 23:36:39 +0000 UTC]
I don't know if there are cases by properly fitted ones, but my point was that any bridle can hurt a horse in the wrong hands - and not being able to make it fit is one way of it being in the wrong handsΒ
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IrishWolf2468 In reply to PinkLionArt [2017-09-26 23:45:48 +0000 UTC]
Haha I sound silly but I'm just sleep deprived.
My point is if you have an understanding of how your tack works, no matter what it is, it is properly fitted, and you have soft hands, you shouldn't cause any pain to your horse, let along break the nosal bone.
Maybe its just me but I dontΒ think anyone has any business using any piece of equipment unless they understand how it works and how to use it.
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PinkLionArt In reply to IrishWolf2468 [2017-09-26 23:53:42 +0000 UTC]
There are many, many people out there that don't have the slightest understanding of how to train a horse and/or use their chosen equipment - yet they still use it, many people who think more harsh equipment will solve any problems they have with their horse.
And also a lot of people praising bitless bridles, saying they are bound to cause less harm than those with bits, but they're just as harmful if used the wrong way. I've seen many people that actually refused to use a bit, just because they heard stuff like this, and would rather try and ride with constant pressure on the reins using a mechanic hackamore, than try and find a soft bit.
Thats why I replied in the first place - it's wrong to say a rider "who doesn't know what soft hands are" would cause less harm with a hackamore than with a bit.
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rose4ourlove [2015-07-04 01:48:31 +0000 UTC]
You left out the basic cavesson bridle, which has just the plain nose band with no flash. Your so called "Achen" bridle is simply a flash. The "Hanoverian" bridle is a drop noseband. French link (the bits with more than the single break) are actually softer than the plain break bits because they don't poke the roof of the mouth as easily. That so called "dressage bridle" is a double bridle and is actually used for more than upper level dressage, though not very often. The 3 to 4 ring bits, aka elevators, aren't to bring the head up fast, just to give some leverage and add a little pressure to the poll. D rings don't have leverage as they are part of the snaffle family. Β
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imFragrance [2015-02-16 12:28:33 +0000 UTC]
How are you able to create a lineart so smooth and clean? No gaps, no cracks; they look perfect !
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Courtney83 [2015-01-24 11:15:16 +0000 UTC]
can i save this onto my computer for reference Please ?
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Jullelin In reply to Courtney83 [2015-01-27 19:57:28 +0000 UTC]
It's okay x3 Just don't re-upload it to the net.
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Mallets [2014-08-10 14:17:27 +0000 UTC]
Wonderful tutorial <3
However; the Hanoverian bridle is also called a bridle with a drop noseband.
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Mallets In reply to Jullelin [2014-08-14 16:18:50 +0000 UTC]
You're very welcome c:
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Jullelin In reply to Gryftami [2014-06-30 21:40:46 +0000 UTC]
You are most welcome^^
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Gryftami In reply to Jullelin [2014-07-01 09:08:54 +0000 UTC]
Used my new knowledge hereΒ fav.me/d7oi6tp, thanks one more time.Β ^^
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sketcherjak [2014-01-25 16:22:20 +0000 UTC]
Rawer, I dig it!
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FlorenceMay [2013-06-28 18:06:28 +0000 UTC]
I like it! Sis you do all the drawings yourseslf?
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PhantomAcres [2012-12-28 20:00:21 +0000 UTC]
This is awesome!! And so helpful! Thank you for putting the effort and time to make this and share it with all of us on dA.
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silvershore [2012-09-29 15:08:50 +0000 UTC]
Nice! I thought it was interesting you said the curb is most commonly used for dressage, I'm guessing this is directed mostly towards English riding styles. Because it is used mainly in dressage, or saddleseat (which there isn't much of on HARPG) but curbs are also THE bit for all western events (although snaffles are used for training)
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StubbornHorseStables [2012-07-11 07:16:03 +0000 UTC]
Such a helpful tutorial! Didn't know a thing about this stuff, but now I feel smarticle 8D
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Seeing-Spotz [2012-03-15 13:48:17 +0000 UTC]
What a helpful tutorial! I laughed at the martingales part, because all my friends jump with standing martingales, at least at my barn.
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PinkoPrint [2011-12-07 22:11:02 +0000 UTC]
Thanks so much for making this. This will help me out alot
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Tattered-Dreams [2011-11-28 19:52:27 +0000 UTC]
This is a great tutorial, Jullelin. It's really good to see that someone has put all the basics down so that art can - hopefully - be more accurate and considerate of the horse. The artwork is all very good and detailed so I'm sure it'll go a long way to making the HARPG more realistic.
The only point I want to raise - even though this was posted months ago - is your bit about the Running reins.
I know they may be called by different names in different places, but I was slightly confused. The Running Martingale fits just like a standing martingale - strap around the neck, strap between the forelegs and attaches to the girth from there with at least a fist's width of space. The only difference is the standing attaches, as you said, to the noseband, but the running attaches to the reins, like in your picture.
Running reins (I'm in the UK, and I think they're what we call side reins) attach usually to the bit and go directly to the girth, either side. They aren't used, as far as I know, for riding, but to give the horse something to work into when ground schooling.
If you meant something else and I misunderstood, then I'm sorry. I just wanted to clarify Sorry if I confused you
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equinearcher In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2012-10-01 21:10:07 +0000 UTC]
no, running reins, or i call it a running martingale is used for riding although it isnt side reins for lunging. theres a starp tht goes around the neck and then a strap that goes frm he noseband through the neck strap and down to the girth between the legs.
i used to be an english rider but now im western and we have a variation of this. since we dont usualy use nosebands, we have a special nose band that doent tighten around the muzzle but hangs loose with a ring on the bottom and to that ring we connect a strap called a tie down that connects to the breast collar (which is like a martingale but doesnt have anything connecting to the reins and is usesd purely for the sake of keeping the saddle from slipping back) and this keeps their head from going up to high. this is usualy only used in rodeo and isnt alowed in showing.
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Tattered-Dreams In reply to equinearcher [2012-10-01 21:37:04 +0000 UTC]
Yikes, I wrote this so long ago I barely remember! I've learned more, and I think the tutorial's been edited since, too.
I ride English, but have ridden Western a few times, but that was just pleasure riding, not anything competitive. I can't say anything about western tack because of that.
A running martingale is what you described - it attaches to the underside of a cavesson noseband and runs between the forelimbs to the girth - the strap around the neck keeps it in place and stops it getting tangled. This is different to a standing martingale, where the strap rests on the horse's neck and the strap splits to attach to the reins. Both martigales are not the same as running reins. Running reins and draw reins are words used interchangeably for equipment that works on a slightly more severe level, but as I don't use the term running reins much, if at all, I'm not familiar with their exact fitting or purpose in the way I know draw reins and market harboroughs.
In my first post I was wrong when I talked about running reins - the equipment I was talking about are side-reins (which are used in lungeing). I hope I understood what you were getting at right...
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equinearcher In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2012-10-01 22:07:17 +0000 UTC]
and would you mind sending a link of a pic of your standing martingale?
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equinearcher In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2012-10-01 22:04:52 +0000 UTC]
your in the uk right? in ythe us wht i described is a standing martingale. a running martingale here is like a standing martingale exept the strap that goes between the fore legs splits at the top half and at the endstheres rings the rins go through. there is also 2 variations of this: western, where it doesnt have a neck strap and is shorter and an english/western one where the rings are in the neck strap like this: [link]
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equinearcher In reply to Tattered-Dreams [2012-10-01 22:25:45 +0000 UTC]
i know all these...yeah runing and standing got mixed up...the pic i sent is only for pleasure/show training and is rather uncommon although its the only kind ive ever used in that area...i know draw and side reins ansd have used them and we call market harabrough a german martingale......if only we all used the same names.....and i have used a german martingale/market harabrough
and this is a western running martingale aka training fork
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warhorsegirl In reply to equinearcher [2013-02-13 20:35:07 +0000 UTC]
This conversation is amazingly confusing, I hope these will help.
Side reins/running reins: [link] (2nd comment down)
Running martingale: [link]
Standing martingale: [link]
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tangledwoods [2011-09-11 23:21:55 +0000 UTC]
This was really useful! Thank you for posting this :]
Only one thing I'd really change/add: I'd add the Irish Martingale to the Martingale list. It looks like: [link] and it used in cross country/show jumping events to prevent the reins from flipping over the horse's head. My stable uses this on our less headstrong horses because it doesn't put any pressure/force the horse's head anywhere.
anyways, that's just my two cents. Thanks for such a useful tut!
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