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KGN-000 — Undertale - Chara and Asriel
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Published: 2015-11-27 03:43:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 71786; Favourites: 1658; Downloads: 168
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I don't know why I'm doing this to myself. I don't ever wanna do the genocide run and I blame Chara for all of it. It's pretty clear if you do a genocide run, your murderous intent comes from Chara, which is YOU, the player. Killing all and sparing no one. This game is deep on so many levels.Anyway, this whole picture is full of nothing but angst and sadness. (Except for the lower left drawing
) I needed an excuse to draw Chara, as well as Asriel. Next time I draw Asriel, I promise to make it cute and NO angst xD;;Excuse the Genocide spoilers, but I hope you enjoy it regardless. Peace out
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How exactly is the Genocide Route Chara's fault? Your murderous intent doesn't come out of Chara. You are the one who is pressing the FIGHT (or MERCY) button. You are the one who decides the monsters fate. You are only introduced to Chara AFTER you do the genocide route. You are corrupting Chara by doing that run. They loved the Dreemurrs and I believe the loved the rest of the monsters too. You are not Chara. Chara is a child who sacrificed their life for monsters because they wanted monsters to be free. Chara is a child who is misunderstood. Chara is a child who jumped down Mount Ebott because they were most likely incapable of love and compassion. Despite your opinion on Chara I love the drawing and improve more and more.
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"I blame Chara for all of it."
"your murderous intent comes from Chara, which is YOU, the player."
Whaaaaa-? Don't blame Chara for the Genocide run if the Player is there. That just doesn't make any sense.
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i agree with you Puppyplaytime
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Well the author is also misunderstood because they're kinda contradicting themselves and it's confusing!
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I think this person sees Chara and the Player as the same person. In this interpretation Chara is seen as a representation of the Player. Chara, after all, is a character up to interpretation. I don't believe Chara is the villain myself, especially if Chara and the Player are separate but each to their own.
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Chara isn't to blame for the Genocide run. You the player are the one corrupting them in that run. They loved Asriel and their mother and father very much and their main reason for wanting to break the barrier was to free all monsters. They hated Humans for what they'd done to them as well as for whatever reason came before hand, but they had the best interests for Monsters in their heart while doing all of this. There's no reason they'd choose to die such a painful death or would have jumped down that hole to begin with if they were incapable of love and compassion in life. They chose that death as a self imposed punishment for their accidental poisoning of their father (You aren't above consequences), and if they were a genocidal maniac to begin with they wouldn't have felt enough sorrow to attempt suicide at the beginning of the game, they'd just be out murdering people till they got caught.
The "Insert Player Name Here" that gets mentioned should you boot the game up after the credits roll isn't talking about the "Insert character of the same name here" from the world the game takes place in. It's referring to you the player the one who was guiding Frisk/Chara during their time in the Underground. Now that the characters are out of the Underground you no longer have the power to influence their actions or their lives. So this way if a True Reset ever happens it only happened because Frisk himself did it to save Asriel. A good natured, compassionate and loving player wouldn't sell Frisk's soul to Chara and wouldn't have done the Genocide run at all which is why they don't have the option to give Frisk's soul to Asriel in the game. A corrupt and uncaring player has no qualms about morality and so has the option to sell Frisk's soul to the corrupted Chara thus ensuring that Chara has total control over everything now even you the player.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
* genocide theme stared *
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Chara was the one who got poisoned. Asriel wasn't even suppsed to die, just absorb their soul. Asriel just happened to not go through with killing the humans. They both died and it was only suicide over charas part.
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Arisel only died cause of the humans.He only wanted them to be friends but they attacked him and then wonce he got back to the underground he died there thats when he turned into flowey.(im not sure if i spelled his name right )
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What could've happened in this child's life that would make them evil? No one is born evil, it is learned. What could have caused such murderous, genocidal want in a child is beyond me.
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they arent evil chara = taught to be evil at the end of the game by the player killing everything
example
chara : i came back and i was lost YOU taught me that killing was the answer
and frisk = being controlled by the player
example (from chara again)
chara : i dont think you understand! S C I N C E W H E N W E R E Y O U T H E O N E I N C O N T R O L
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I'd like to point out that Chara is't evil. Where did this concept even come from? By these standards, almost everyone in the game is evil? I guess with the exclusion of Monster Kid...
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she was not untell she found out her brother died cause of humans.So,she tried her self but almost died trying.so,she diced to kill all the monsters (using Frisk) to avenge her brother.
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Chara convinced her brother to join her in a suicide pact (using Buttercup Poisoning no less - a very unpleasant way to go). Even if you only consider that misguided you still have to admit that's kinda messed up.
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It wasn't a suicide pact, Chara killed themselves so that Asriel could take their SOUL and cross the barrier. Asriel died to the attacking humans because he chose not to fight back, as it was Chara who wanted to "use their full power" which could, and would, defeat the humans, which would quite obviously mean that Asriel would still be alive, since Chara's intention was to break the barrier and/or destroy humanity (that one is up to your interpretation, though).
Forming a suicide pact with Asriel would therefore not solve anything for Chara at all or help them achieve any of their goals..
I think you're the one who's objectively misguided, for misreading canon details: undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Chara… . And that misreading is very messed-up.
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My memory's a bit foggy, because I posted my comment a year ago, but I'm pretty sure I was just mistaken when I said "suicide pact". I meant "Chara asked Asriel to help them commit suicide" (which would have been a pact involving suicide), which is still a pretty messed up thing to ask one's brother to do.
There is no need to reply so strongly, nor with so many underlined or bolded words.
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I totally agree, go to youtube and search up who is the true villain of undertale. Judgement Boy explains that its not chara responsible for all the death, its you. So please reconsider your opinion but i wont force you to if thats what you really think of chara.
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There is no such thing as innocence only warrying degrese of guilt.
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And Chara has no higher degree of guilt than the player.
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There is such a thing as innocence.
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Chara is not evil
Yeah they called themselves a demon but
-Asriel called himself “the ABSOLUTE god of HyperDeath” even after he regained his feelings
-Sans traumatizes you even if you haven’t done anything wrong
-Asriel wants to kill you 1,000,000 times if that would prevent you from “winning”
-YOU. You killed Toriel, Papyrus, Undyne, Muffet, Mettaton (and a LOT of random encounters) AND you tried to kill Monster Kid and Sans(chara does the final blow)
And now why are THEY evil? (Is it because they can punish you for a genocide run!?)
-And undyne attacks you several times even if you are pacifist
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CHARA'S OVYS A DEMON.1:SHE CAN COPY ANYONES POWERSS!!!!!!!!!!2:SHE CAN EAT OVER 25 BUTTERSOUCH PIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!3:SHE HAD DA POWER TO CONTROL FRISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!4:ETC!
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#1 bro calm down
#2 no
#3 nothing you said has proof
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They're using sarcasm jeez.
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Achully if u read it u can see the proof
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so you think all player action is chara
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Wait, what if Chara is a demon, but demons aren't evil in undertale... just like monsters.
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SOME DEMONS ARE EVIL!
(seven deadly sins da anime.....)
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all the UT2 ideas
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Because Chara and the player are the same person.
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Well in some AUs, Chara is an antagonist because it's all in-universe which means there's no player.
Like Endertale, Glitchtale and Corrupted Torment.
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THEY NOT DA SAME PERSON THEY LOOK ALIKE!!!!!!!!
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other player is Frisk,boi....
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Except in the Genocide run, Chara says that it was you who led the world to its destruction. You probably wouldn't do that, as most people want to get away with killing everyone, just using Chara as nothing but a scapegoat. You wouldn't use yourself as a scapegoat, would you?
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The player's name is determined by what you name "The Fallen Human" at the beginning of the game. They are however an entirely separate entity from the player. The character you name at the beginning isn't you the player, nor are they Frisk. They are their own character who has overshadowed Frisk and either sees the goodness in Humanity on the Pacifist route, or is corrupted through Frisk's forced genocidal actions (from your influence) and goes on to lose their ability to care about others. They are someone whose life came to an end long ago but whose spirit still resides within their body due to dying inside the barrier.
They are integral to the events of the storyline but play no active part in it during the time the player becomes involved with these characters lives. In all routes they are the narrator, but due to the players malicious influence in the Genocide run they become corrupted due to having no soul other than sharing in Frisk's corrupted soul. Their actions from that point on are the fault of you the player for twisting them into what they then are, and not a test-amount to the kind of person they truly are. Much like Asriel didn't choose to become and isn't at fault for his actions without a soul, Chara isn't to blame for their actions when all they have access to is the corrupted soul of the child they've overshadowed.
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you replied to an old comment
also i have no idea what point you're getting across
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A comments age has nothing to do with it so responses.
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what
i still don't get what point you're trying to get across
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I'm saying that it doesn't matter how old a comment is, you can still reply to it.
The point I'm making is that Chara isn't evil nor are they a psycho child.
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yea i never said that chara was evil or a psycho child
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Achully u did do it to do da genocide run you must kill every monster u inconter.So tecully to do da geno run u achully start it. plus Chara took over u which means its still u just with Chara giving u power.
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what it means:Achully you did do it o do the genocide run (to start it up) you must kill every monster you incounter.So you techully to the genocide run to achully start it.
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I'm sorry, I can't understand what you are saying at all.
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