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Once again, the pokemon fandumb is unbearable, and of course the reason is that its that time again where the generations are changing and the transfer from now 6 to 7 is happening. and the fandom is just being absolute shit about it, mainly to the new anime which hasn't even aired yet and yet they already claim it to be absolute shit. It's ghostbusters all over again, but this time within the fandom. And the majority of the complainers seem to be fans of the previous generation, acting as if this was the most perfect generation of pokemon out there.Well, I got news for ya: The Kalos saga/games were not all that great!
Okay the pokemon games are normally alright anyways, but honestly i felt like X and Y were relatively too easy, whereas the past games I've played actually had challenges (namely in gens 2 and 5). The graphics may have been awesome and the new mechanics good, but the next gen also has some new things that we'll wait and see how well it changes the game.
Now what about the anime, well to those fans still watching it, there have been some changes to it in how it was animated and most were good, and either way when compared to generation 5's mishaps, kalos woulda been good either way. The problem is: the story is bland as hell and slower than a snail! Ash ketchum is blander than ever, Serena's really was just shipping bait (actually the shippers are by far the worst in this fandom) and had the slowest development of any character, and Celmont andΒ Bonnie were just kinda broken records. The story was so slow, that despite it picking up in some parts, for the most part this series just wasn't interesting. Not to say it did not have its good moments, like the Korrina arc or Goodra's story arc, but for the most part it was very uninteresting. Not even the movies could really help it, considering Diancie's movie was the shortest of all the pokemon movies, Hoopa's apparently did not do well (you'd think a huge clash of like 11 legendary pokemon would be epic) and so on...
And with the sun and moon anime trailers out, most of the fandom instantly turn its back on it acting as if it'll be horrible
baww ash looks stupid again
This is one of the stupider complaints, the fandom acts as if Ash ketchum looks different than any other character shown, when really he doesn't look all that different, I've covered before about how stupid some of the complaints have been about his design, especially when some morons think he looks like he belongs in cartoon shows like steven universe (I've said before how retarded that argument is) And you know what, he doesn't look stupid in the trailers, Ash looks like he's actually enjoying himself for the first time in years, I haven't seen more interesting emotions from him in so long that Sun and moon's Ash actually looks like he has more character again, and not just your typical anime protagonist
bawww ash isn't gonna be badass
........... He hasn't been since gens 3 and 4 tbh.... Also when you've seen as much animations as I have, you know that when it comes to badassery, I've seen more badass shiz from a beady eyed polar bear cub when compared to ketchum lately...
Baww the animation looks terrible
Not really, it looks more fluid and more unique when compared to how stiff and less fluid it was in past gens
baww the plot is stoopid
Well what do you expect, there are no gyms in the Alola reigon, games or anime. If anything you should be more concerned with how the games will play out without this. and besides the anime's been so stale with its formula that it's actually refreshing to see them change it now. It's an odd change of pace but what did you expect when they cannot use their formula this time which most hypocrite fans call stale anyways, and the moment it changes you say its bad. unpleasing idiots.
In short, fandom, take your damn nostalgia glasses off and realize change is happening, and deal with it rather than being butthurt babies over it. The last pokemon generation wasn't perfect, none of them were. And the next one could surprise you in its story once it picks up, don't just blow it off because you're upset over the changes. And with how the fandom is reacting practically the same way as fantards over ghostbusters 2016 (minus the sjw bs) at best the new anime will be mediocre cause all the complaining wont be worth what the actual product is, something in the middle.
comment and enjoy i guess
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As I said in , you need to learn that not everyone thinks that way.
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I love people who is saying "Ash ketchum is blander than ever" that prove me they watched like 2 episodes of XY
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I agree...
Diamond and Pearl isn't any better as well
Besides, my favorites are the Black and White and Advanced Generation series.
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At least the Sun and Moon saga isn't butchering one of the female protagonists from the game (i.e. turning her into a generic love interest). The worst part is that Serena's anime portrayal caused Game!Serena to become almost completely ignored.
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Ehhhhh. I enjoyed the X and Y anime (until XY&Z...I only found a FEW good episodes of that I enjoyed), but you be your own man.
However, I DO agree with people getting butthurt about the Sun and Moon anime for arbitrary reasons like THESE.
I am actually kinda curious about the SM anime.
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The XY anime was decent at first, but slowly became rather boring to me...
but yea the new anime does have some interest in how it's animated, it feels much smoother, though honestly seeing the screenshots from the eps coming out in Japan, idk how well it'll be received abroad, only a few eps actually have something intriguing about them that are a lot deeper than the past sagas.
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I'm surprised you didn't mention all of those people who are complaining that Ash's "special snowflake" Greninja lost to Alain's Mega Charizard X? Or even all of those amourshippers who can't accept the fact that Serena isn't the new Mrs. Ash Ketchum?
Oh, did I mention that there are NUMEROUS obviously fake leaks involving people willing to believe Serena is going to Alola with Ash EVEN THOUGH SHE SPECIFICALLY STATED IN THE ANIME SHE WAS GOING TO HOENN? Seriously? Are these dumbasses even paying attention to the anime?
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I have to agree with you on this, while not as bad as the Gen V anime arc, it (the Gen VI anime arc) could have been a lot better.Β
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yea, it had pacing and a story that just took too slow to develop well enough to keep the attention span of the viewers really. It just really could not keep interest in the story.
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In my opinion, Sun and Moon Ash looks like Origins Red animated by Studio Trigger. Weird, I know. I can't really relate to that hate.
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it's better than the original that's for sure
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like generation 1, yea.
but it being the best pokemon series, I'd say there were a few that were better
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how exactly?
I mean the pacing was faster in XY than any other saga
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you did read the description right
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Yes, and you failed to compare it to the other sagas.
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Fine then
gen 1: story was nothing great, had a lot of stupid things, especially in the gyms that would not fly today (like erika's sexism and the bs way ash beat brock, as well as the end of the league) but the pacing was rather good, movie was alright. But had many iconic scenes like Sabrina's arc and some of the better team rocket plots
1.5/ orange islands: a rather better saga with an interesting gym strategy, but people discount it even though its the only time ash won a league! had one of the best movies in the poke on sagas
Β gen 2:Β Story was uninteresting and just did not have a lot of watchable factors, movies were decent
gen 3: better watchability, decent pacing and an interesting story, good movies, including one of the best ones of the entire pokemon movie history (pokemon ranger and the temple of the sea)
gen 4: great pacing, good story, but fell in some areas as anti-climatic (like the end of team galactic's attacks and darkrai and cresselia's battle) but overall had some of the best battles and a really great movie trilogy (and one mediocre movie after)
gen 5: unlikeable characters, poorly paced story, plot absolutely wrecked by outside forces, unmemorable battles, and a very poor rivalry. and movies were nothing special
gen 6, although the artstyle was improved and had an alright plot, the story and development of characters was too slow, only really picked up by the end. but the episodes were not exactly the best at times. Movies did not do well, even had the shortest movie of the series
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Dude, so what if Ash and Serena's development were to slow?
They still had a lot especially Serena.
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too slow really. slow enough to lose interest, which isn't a good thing for a show
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well how is it slower than the others?
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because of how long it took just to tell what Serena wanted to do with her goals, for example
how long it took to actually introduce team flare was almost as long as it took to show plasma back in gen 5 (and they were meant to be a pivotal part of the story until their ep got cancelled)
they just took too long with getting on their plots that eventually you just get bored of episodes where nothing happens.
does that mean the story wasn't good when it picked up, no. it had its moments. XY just could not keep up a good enough pace to get me excited to watch it anymore. it just had dull repetitive writing at times and just wasn't that good. that's all
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well you can't rush development like Ash did in BW
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you can't rush it nor do it too slowly, a balance is needed
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well how is XY slower than BW, or any other saga?
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I'd also like to mention that I like the Yo-Kai Watch anime more than the XY saga which I didn't expect. It reminded me a lot of the previous PokΓ©mon sagas and I liked the humor as well. From what I heard they are shaking up the PokΓ©mon anime partially to help compete more with Yo-Kai Watch. I can't blame them since Yo-Kai Watch has stolen thunder from PokΓ©mon in Japan with the 2nd game outselling ORAS and the XY saga has the lowest ratings of any PokΓ©mon saga in Japan. I think this has encouraged Game Freak to really step up to not only change up the anime but to improve with the games.
I've played the Sun and Moon demo and it was a breath of fresh air. The overworld felt like it was a true 3D PokΓ©mon game and it reminded me a lot of Yo-Kai Watch. I don't usually criticize graphics but X and Y felt like a glorified DS game in comparison so I'm glad they improved the overworld and that it's no longer grid based.
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I really don't think they're competing with yo-kai watch. it's just another monster fad like all the other failed projects that tried. they're just taking a new direction with pokemon as usual.
Pokemon's a franchise which has been around for so long that it doesn't have to worry about other franchises, it'll keep going for a long time. With these games they don't go down that easily. Nintendo's one of those companies that have existed for over a century, they know how to adapt to situations, and i'm sure they stopped competing with others a long time ago.
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I agree mostly in regards to the X/Y game. I actually had to play it a second time to re-evaluate if it was that easy and I wasn't just being too hard because
you didn't have to grind anymore, but nope. I actually breezed through it more my second playthrough. My other gripe with X/Y is the lack of post-game content.
Sure, there's the journey to collect all the mega stones, but once you have a guide to find them, it only takes an hour. And if you want, fight for some pro-items at the Battle Mansion.
The Looker side-story was too painfully boring to finish.
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yea i never even bothered with the looker side story at the end, it just seemed so pointless and uninteresting that i just spent most my postgame getting new pokes from trades and wandering route 7 waiting for an online battle with someone.....
eventually i just stopped alltogether
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In terms of the games I ended up enjoying ORAS a lot more. In the end I ended up enjoying XY less than I wanted to. I didn't have a problem with the easy difficulty, lack of features, or storyline. It had more to do with the amount of Gen 1 homages which makes me dislike genwunners more, and in the overworld somehow it felt like a 2d game in 3d to me because I felt like the transition to 3d could have been better. Also I think I ruined my enjoyment for the games themselves for being way too overhyped. I enjoyed X and Y more than most of the GB and GBA games but I liked the DS games a lot more. I'm sure I'll like Sun and Moon more even though it's going to have it's share of flaws.
In terms of the anime, I didn't end up enjoying XY much. I thought they made Ash too serious and I like it when Ash acts goofy because it amuses me. I actually prefer the Best Wishes series despite how flawed it is, it had a lot more episodes I enjoyed, and I found it more fun. I only enjoyed a handful of XY episodes although I still enjoyed the movies. I don't watch PokΓ©mon to watch Ash win leagues or catch them all, I watch it to see PokΓ©mon in animated form, to see Ash go on fun adventures or to see some cheesy humor. I actually prefer watching filler episodes that focus on certain PokΓ©mon rather than episodes that focus on leagues, gyms, contests, etc. Β So XY didn't really do it for me compared to the previous sagas. While it fixed some flaws the anime had, I had less fun with it.Β As long as I enjoy the Sun and Moon saga more I don't mind the visual style so I'm actually looking forward to it.
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I got to agree, the sun and moon anime looks like the characters are actually enjoying themselves this time, and its a lot more expressive this time around, cause really I'm looking at how every character has emoted in the trailers so far, and they all emote the same way, in a more amusing tone.
but yea got to agree that xy did feel a lil serious in places, but at times it was alright, prob is ash to me felt rather bland, but i felt it was more suited to kirito Alain
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X/Y are probably my least favorite entries in the series, at least for the non-mutiplayer stuff. I love Pokemon so that's not as strong as it sounds, but easily my least favorite. Β I'm hoping I get to play through it again soon to see if anything changes for me though. Oddly enough my favorite meta but least favorite main-game adventure. The story really felt sluggish, getting good too little too late, I didn't like the gym leader theme, there were so many rivals nothing of them felt fleshed out, and I really didn't like Team Flare.
As for the anime I never did watch it, but I always was suspicious of people loving the X/Y season so much and saying Black/White sucked when back when Black/White first started airing everyone loved it. Β So I did have a "aha" moment when people started hating it just because of how the league battles ended.
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Yea pokemon games don't always got the best stories. Gen 6's was rather weak and had little work on it, gen 5 probably had the best storyline in the games
however, here's the thing about the Unova saga's anime: at first it did seem good, but once you noticed how poorly written the characters were, how unlikable the main characters were (especially Iris, her character was horribly done, she was portrayed as kinda a bitch who called out other's flaws yet the show never called out hers, and all her pokemon had very definitive problems, she was an even worse misty really) and how mutilated the plot went due to some real world natural disasters interupting right before what was supposed to be one of the more interesting battles between two great evil teams (plasma vs rocket, which never aired ever) The BW saga suffered greatly in story and character development, and even had an entire story arc where nothing of development happens at all, no new pokemon on the team, no new evoltuions, the only hing they did was shoehorn charizard into the story just for nostalgia-baiting. Oh and the typical next gen pokes to try and hype up the next series...
Kalo's prob was, although it was done much better than the previous gen, it wasn't any better in having interesting characters in the main cast or having a story that could catch you through the whole of the 140+ eps.... Although this time they have added development to some side characters, it wasn't enough to carry the series through for me like previous gens.
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It depends if they are gonna give it a shot.
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thank you for this stamp <3 i remember really having high hopes for the kalos anime, but it just...really didnt do it for me personally. i'm glad you made a note of shipping bait serena, i'm so bummed she went from a character with potential to a character who is fixated on ash :/.i'll always really like bonnie and clemont, but they were so much better before the series progressed.Β
but i for one am super excited for the new anime! i'll admit that the style took me by surprise, but like you said change it good. all of these newer things being added to pokemon are so so great, it's become so stale lately. it's growing on me really. <3
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thank you
it really does annoy me when the fandom instantly calls something shit when it hasn't even come out yet, and the worst part is is that they constantly do it every generation.
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Thank you! Finally someone said what needed to be said! Bravo!
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yea, no two gens are the same, so trying to put one on a pedestal is just ridiculous
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Exactly. You can have favorites, but you cant' let them dictate your actions.
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Well I applaud your stamp.
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yea
originally i thought it was really good, but after a while i got more and more disinterested in the story..... the writing also isn't the most engaging either
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I agree on everything you said about it. One more reason for myself not to watch the Pokemon anime.
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I really think you misunderstood my point here.... but ok.
Then again i don't really care anymore if poeple still watch the show, i cannot even watch it myself due to just never waking up in time to see it, and a general lack of interest in the current gen as of now, but i do not go and judge a show based on its fandom or not give something new a chance if i can.
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