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KingZanderSanchez-i β Animation Infamy XXII- The Chloe Carmichael Show
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Yes, I know that I'm not gonna shut up about Season 10 of FOP, but I had to get one last good hard swing in on this dead horse. With Animation Infamy Month drawing to a close, I've only got one more housekeeping review to take care of (and I think you might know what it is). In the meantime, I have plans to release another Pilot Crossing review soon.Related content
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I think I would have liked Chloe if:
1. She didn't have all the attention to herself.
2. Instead of sharing faries with Timmy, she was a friend who found out about the secret and promises to keep it between them.
3. Didn't mean all the other characters disappear or lose their importance to give her protagonism.
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1) You're absolutely right; I thought we learned from Scrappy Doo that, when a new character is introduced, the last thing you want is them stepping on everyone's toes, undermining the established characters, having any redundant uses or skills (or having so many skills it renders the rest of the cast redundant), or any combination of the aforementioned. Look to literally any 6th/Extra Ranger introductions throughout the 25+ years of Power Rangers and you'll find countless examples (even if not all of them are as effective, or in cases like the Nova Ranger in SPD or Xenowing in Dino Charge, only show up in the 11th Hour of the story).
2) I know that I and a lot of other people have suggested Chloe be given her own fairies (mostly because you can count on one hand how many Godkids other than Timmy we've seen ONLY ONCE--and that's not counting the times Timmy briefly lost/loaned Cosmo and Wanda), but that's actually something I never considered; we have established in Meet the OddParents that, so long as their secret is kept hidden, then it's entirely possible. Could create an interesting dynamic.
3) I was gonna say "protagonism" isn't a word, but I looked it up; I just never saw that term before. Anyway, I think that has less to do with Chloe entering the picture and more about the writers not knowing what to do with the supporting cast after 8 seasons. A bit of pruning the vine was inevitable, but I figure some kind of explanation--even a hand-waved one--for why they were thrown onto the bus would've helped. Even if it's just a throwaway line from Timmy like "Man, if only [Characters W, X, Y, and Z] didn't move away." Yeah, it's cheap writing but at least it's an answer to explain how they just disappeared. Unless they somehow fell into the Void from Gumball.
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Hey, now that you mention Gumball, what are your thoughts on The Inquisition?
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Out of the last 10 episodes, I think The Heart might've been my favorite, The Friend/The Factory was my least favorite, and The Inquisition fell somewhere in the middle. If this makes any sense, it felt more like a *season* finale and not a series finale but I thought it was an overall good episode: 3.5/5, I guess. I know the creator teased on Twitter about a Gumball MOVIE (which could be what they were hinting at with the painting Banana Barbara had of the Wattersons running through the Void), so it's possible this was meant to set the stage for that with the movie serving as a conclusion--which I think would be far more satisfying of an ending. I thought the Judge Doom twist with Superintendent Evil was pretty good and the creepy human designs for everyone were really effective but I think this could've had enough for a two-parter like with The Disaster and The Rerun but it makes the second half feel very rushed.
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Give it this, though. At least it was better than the Star Vs. Finale...
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I liked the Star vs. finale though.
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I remember watching this episode when it first came out, and I already noticed the problems with it. Like, when Wanda was like, "Every Friday, the wand gets recharged," and something with the Anti-Faries or whatever. I was like 13 when it came out, and even I noticed all of the plot holes.
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It just feels like they had to bend over backwards for this episode to artificially blockade off every possible out that they could've gotten, and it not only feels forced, the pacing moves a mile a minute like this was supposed to be a 2 parter that got smashed together into one episode. Chloe herself wouldn't be a terrible character to add in, but it's the fact she's stapled to Timmy that makes it even more blatant how little sense it makes for her to be here. Remy has a Fairy GodParent because his parents never spent any time with him, while we only see Molly and Irving briefly we at least get an instant sense of why they've got Fairies (with Irving being afraid of everything and whatever caused Molly's attitude would likely be a huge factor), and--while Tootie never got fairies at all for some reason--Timmy did loan her his for her birthday. Chloe...has no reason to need Fairies (or, at least, not a believable reason).Β
If we want to keep Chloe's character the same, have her perfection be her major failing, like Jared from Recess. "Chloe needs Fairies because she doesn't have any friends. She's a really nice girl, but the fact she's just good at everything and ends up outdoing everyone around her makes other kids see her as a show-off or think she's trying too hard to impress everyone." There! It makes far more sense than "I screw up when I try to fix things [something virtually every child on Earth between the ages of 2 and 15 is guilty of]" and it doesn't require affecting any contrivances in the episodes to follow.
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I agree. Chloe could've been a better character to fit the narrative of the show. She needed that humbleness that all characters thrive for. I was always confused as to why she needed fairies since she's so perfect. I mean, sure, characters that are super intelligent, strong, and have good morals do have believable character flaws: Twilight Sparkle, Applejack, Raven, Eleanor, etc, but her...? No... She doesn't have a single believable flaw in her body. She's like Twilight or Lisa, but, without any depth or personality besides... "perfect". She's not even miserable... Like... Tootie or Chester couldn't share fairies with Timmy because... "new character!"
It would've been more believable to say like... if she was secretly insecure, and that's why she tries so hard, or, if she was hard on herself, or... something along those lines, but, she's not... At least, the show hasn't reference that she was. Β
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Here's the thing: writing Sanchez Chronicles (a series that's LITERALLY about the royal family of an immortal God thousands of years old with the power to move between dimensions and deflect any type of laws, among many other powers he STOLE over the years through a SECOND game-breaking superpower) I'm obviously no stranger to characters that show up and somehow manage to roll a natural 20 in character creation; it happens--Silver Surfer, Superman, Matthew Malloy, the Marquis of Death, the Beyonder, Squirrel Girl. However, when you ONLY hit a critical success on. Every. Single. Roll. Without. Fail. That's when I call shenanigans! [Okay, D&D metaphors aside: it's not impossible for Chloe to be this ultra-perfect character, but there's nothing that causes her to fail or anything that makes her feel human. Even Ferris Bueller wasn't invincible and had his own share of faults...whether or not he acknowledged them.]
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Don't forgot almost every dialogue in this season was SCREAMING! And too many jokes that repeat themselves
The story editor now works at Rainbow Butterly Unicorn Kitty.
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Yeah, I guess I just never noticed. Or maybe I went deaf from rewatching this series with headphones. This is part of the "Louder = Funnier" school of comedy that's never, ever, ever, ever managed to produce a single drop of success. Ever. Also see literally everything from DXP, also Cartoon Network's Incredible Crew, Nick's own Fred: The Show, AwesomenessTV, and everything made by PewDiePie. While we're at it, just because comedy is built is surprise and subverting expectation, being random isn't the same thing as funny.
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It's not like FOP wasn't already in trouble before this. When Sparky came along, that was the point where everyone started leaving.
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Sparky was a terrible idea, but one could still point to a few episodes that were at least something interesting or stories worth telling. Plus, at least Sparky didn't force himself down everyone's throat. The finale wasn't too bad with Sparky dying the way back to his home planet.
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The 10th season of FOP... yep, this one was bad.
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This is the first time I've ever had to review a full SEASON separately, but considering they changed the theme song, I'm giving it a one-time exception just for that by classifying it as a terrible story arc (since I already review the worst shows and episodes, it would make sense to combine them together to encompass infamous story arcs as well). Otherwise, I'd have to go through each and every episode to find one that's worse than another and that's pretty hard when every episode clocks in at a 3/10 average.
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Remember the crossover with Bunsen is a Beast, it's the only non Chloe episode in the pot. Β I bet you might want to review that piece of crap.
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You know it! The terrible animation, the fact it breaks several, long-established laws, the complete idiocy of the premise: it's like someone saw The Jimmy-Timmy Power Hour trilogy and said "Let's make the exact opposite of that...but worse." Normally, you need an onion router and a VPN to find bombs like that.Β Β
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And let's not forget the fact that it used one art style for both dimensions. I expected Bunsen and Mikey to be hand drawn when they crossed over to FOP's world, but instead, it's the same one (Flash). Same goes for when Timmy and crew went to Bunsen's world.Β If the crossover did had more effort put into it, there would have been a joke about how different they look due to the animation styles in both dimensions.Β
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That's true, but comparing Bunsen is a Beast to ANYTHING that Butch Hartman has made before is kinda insulting.
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Yeah, donβt worry. This is the last youβll be hearing from Chloe Carmichael. If I have any more FOP reviews, I promise itβll be more positive.
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FOP's 10th Season really is The Chloe Carmichael Show indeed.Β
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AlphaJay was the one I heard calling it a spin-off but you canβt say I was wrong.
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I think I'll review this whenever I feel like watching The Fairly OddParents.Β
Jeez. When SpongeBob got into it's 10th Season, the show became amazing! FOP on the other hand... Yeah. You know.Β
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Oh, by all means. Go right ahead. Personally, I'd think Certified Super Sitter, Chip Off the Old Crock, or Girly Squirrely are among some of the absolute bottom of the barrel (or at least forming a noticeably rancid ring around the barrel) but if you think you can handle the whole season at once, you might wanna put poison control on speed dial; that much bile and toxin can't be healthy for a human being to ingest in such a short time.
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I'll be sure to review something positive after watching the infamous 10th season of FOP.
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I plan to do the same by the end of the month, of course.
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im legit curious if theres any good ep in season 10
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Be my guest: if you can find any episode that's even remotely good, I'll gladly give it a Berzerk review. I've seen every episode, either because I'm stupid or just desperate so take your pick, and the closest thing to "Watchable" is 'Dimmsdale Daze' which is just a shitty knock-off of the Big Problem and Switch Glitch with any possible edge or consequence sanded down to a circle. If you're trying to find the one lily growing in this swamp, you aren't gonna find it.
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i mean even family guy stil has some funny momments and eps
its sad when id rather watch fucking family guy than fop
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Sad but true. Family Guy in Season 15 is better than Fairly OddParents Season 10.
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Can I ask which are the watchable episodes?
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If YOU can find one, let me know. Every episode that isn't just dragging better characters like Dark Laser or Cat Man through the mud, is either a knock-off of a better episode or just outright terrible. The fact that one of my favorite series from my childhood was outright cancelled, one of the most popular Nicktoons out there on par with Spongebob and Rugrats, and the fact I feel absolutely nothing that it's gone...is honestly so much harsher than anything I could ever say.
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Yeah, I have to agree, this season really sucked hard. Like, I even found some enjoyment in some modern episodes, like, even some episodes with SPARKY were decent (Cosmonopoly)...But I didn't liked any episode with Chloe.
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Chloe and Starlight are kinda two sides of the same Mary Sue coin: one is the terrible, awful person that people keep making excuses for and Chloe is the absolutely perfect, flawless at everything, never does anything wrong person who crowbars her way into the story and forces everyone else to just deal with her consequences. Both of them have flaws that are either seen as minor or outright ignored, and both somehow manage to emit some kind of pheromone that makes everyone around them instantly think they're best friends--even if it literally makes no sense why. When Pinkie, Elmyra, and the Brain has a better reason for their spin-off to exist, maybe you should've just gone back to 0 and started over.
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A; yeah I do agree of calling FOP's season 10 as a spin off, since 1: Sparky is (admittedly thankfully) missing, 2; poof so sent appare untill in one of those flash episodes and 3: AJ and Chester while appearing, don't seem to recognize timmy.
B; you're never living season 10 for having chole be it's new main charecter arent you?
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It's not just about Chloe--she's a terrible character, that's for sure, but she's not the ONLY terrible thing about this series--it's the fact that they just didn't give a shit about their own creation anymore. The writing is rushed with plotlines being resolved immediately, Chloe being obnoxiously condescending, all the remaining characters (even TIMMY TURNER HIMSELF) are watered down to one-note stereotypes. Hell, Chloe made Timmy's family RICH and, outside of one or two episodes, it's never even brought up for the entire season! Every. Single. Episode. either revolves around Chloe entirely or has her dragging Timmy into whatever insane ideas she has to improve things. Season 9 wasn't even enough to kill my love for this series. The Drake Bell trilogy was stupid and seventeen kinds of awful but at least it's not canon. From the word go, this whole experiment broke me. I wanna compare it to asking out the best friend you've lived next door to and had a crush on your whole life, but then it turns out she's secretly hated you from day 1 and only decided to go out with you as a prank to humiliate you and then shit-talk you behind your back to the entire school [not speaking from experience, mind you, but that's just how harsh it feels]. There isn't one good episode in this season, not one joke that even forced a smirk, not a single instance I can point to since the show seems to keep finding new ways to become even worse.
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Wow....that was quite...personal to be honest. I mean, to me season 10 is more like a dude telling his friends jokes from a joke book, but with each joke he says in the book, he keeps skipping some of the words in them, and as he unintentionally confuses his friends, he also keeps annoying them by bringing up the joke from hollow man about superman quickly banging wonder woman, and when he finnaly gets to the final joke in the joke book, he just stops and throws it in the trash before he even says the final joke. But if that's how you feel...ok...its your opinion after all dude.
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This might actually sound insane...but what if they rebooted Fairly OddParents? After a while, of course. It might be a better idea to get back to basics and just try to sweep all this under the rug. Look at Ben 10: there's another series that started off as a home run for the network and then over time people just started getting sick of it and it finally just got so fatigued that it ultimately had to end. Then the reboot happened and, while it was different, it brought whole new life into the familiar premise, characters, and continuity in a whole new way; got off to a rocky start, yes, but not every reboot is either DuckTales/Polly Pocket amazing or Powerpuff Girls/Yo Yogi awful.
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Yeah maybe nick should make a reboot (I.E, have the reboot quality of the ducktales and she ra reboot) if they feel like it
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Give it some time. We might need a while to recover from...all this, yknow.
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I agree. As a show that ended pretty poorly and has lots of continuity errors and other problems, it definitely deserves a reboot, maybe for its 20th anniversary. Also, with Butch Hartman leaving Nickelodeon to work on OAXIS, he should not be involved with the reboot (as he's partially to blame for the poor writing of the show since season 7, alongside Nickelodeon, who persuaded him to add Poof, Sparky and Chloe), with the show being handled by good cartoon writers (like maybe some writers from Gravity Falls and Futurama). The reboot would aim to bring the Fairly OddParents closer to its roots, while also giving more screentime to plots that were rarely featured in the original series. It would feature most of the characters from the show and some from the live-action movies (but no Poof or Sparky), with some characters being rewritten. This means that Chloe Carmichael in the reboot would be rewritten, with her not sharing fairies with Timmy and having a different personality, like being a tomboy and Tootie's best friend, for example. Most episodes should focus not only on Timmy and his fairies, but also on various other characters, not just Mr. Crocker and Timmy's dad. I think the show's animation should be done in Flash again, like the 2nd half of this season, but handled by Titmouse (the same animation studio that did the animation for Motorcity, Moonbeam City and the Venture Bros. from season 5 onwards). If Batman got rebooted after Batman & Robin with Batman Begins, and James Bond got rebooted after Die Another Day with Casino Royale (2006), then I think the Fairly OddParents can recover with a reboot, either in cartoon or comic book form.
This season might as well be the blunder of the century. Honestly, if the Fairly OddParents ended 2 seasons sooner, we wouldn't have had this problem.
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I'd think the theoretical reboot would outright expunge Chloe and Sparky altogether (if we need to take Poof down with them, then so be it; small price to pay). Honestly, maybe the best course of action is to just 86 the whole thing and start over from scratch. It's not like they did every possible thing they could, and there's plenty of ideas they could try with a new creator at the helm. Just so long as it's not PPG '16, because I don't think I could stand a reboot worse than that. Same goes for a Kids Next Door reboot after CN already passed on Tom Warburton's Galactic KND pitch.
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