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AgentAquaM [2011-09-02 20:45:53 +0000 UTC]
Either way, Poisons still pretty hot
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heavynorse [2011-08-20 22:34:53 +0000 UTC]
Man, woman, tranny... It doesn't matter what she is. She is awesome either way. ^^
This was a great idea for some artowork though, quite cool.
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LuisManuel316 [2011-08-18 16:34:11 +0000 UTC]
Except Capcom has confirmed that she is a post-op(and a Pre-op in Japan). The other characters even make references to it in Street Fighter x Tekken.
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aaronmag In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-20 05:37:22 +0000 UTC]
Yes I know you mentioned Roxy being a girl. My point was I was agreeing with you about not understanding the fuss When Roxy is sitting there waiting in the wings. If people want her to be a girl choose the Roxy palette. If not, choose Poison colors. It just seems like there is much ado about nothing on this issue.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to krissar [2011-08-18 16:02:14 +0000 UTC]
Well, if you think of it, it does make perfect sense. Roxy and Poison look the same, so Roxy's a woman for those who like women, and Poison's a shemale transsexual for those who like shemales, simple ne.
And yes, in CCC vol.1, it's very clearly stated that Poison is a crossdresser (and that the reason he fights is to maintain his slim figure), also, Ono stated the same thing in an interview back when SF4 was released, so when the "fans" kept on asking (hoping that Capcom changes their mind), they set up the male Poison models during Comic Con. So yeah, Poison IS indeed a guy, and I'm afraid there's nothing you can do about it, after all, he is NOT your character, so you can NOT make any statements like "she's a woman" when his creators have officially stated otherwise.
PS. ON a side note, probably to further hint that Poison is a shemale, his relation with Hugo in SF3 and onwards was based of the characters Blue and Mad Saulus from the anime Violence Jack (well, both Capcom and SNK base many of their designs on anime, ne XD), who were also a bitchy-lookin' shemale (acting as the brains) and a giant sized guy (acting as the brawn).
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 05:08:04 +0000 UTC]
the one question i have then if poison is officially stated as a guy is why did they make her a "her" in the street fighter comics by udon that need capcom approval. in that she is most definately a woman.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-19 08:31:09 +0000 UTC]
How much they need Capcom's "approval" is still a mystery, since I've seen waaaay more uncanon thing happening in there (like Sakura travelling along with Ryu, when in the canon story, she only met him twice in her life, and never travelled with him).
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 17:27:09 +0000 UTC]
yeah, and they have alternate time lines as the sakura ganburo doesn't have sakura meet ryu until she is a lot older and it's made by the same udon company. then again, perhaps street fighter doesn't have one perfect time line to follow. From sf IV it would sound as if ryu knows sakura very well which would be odd if they've only met twice.
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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 06:49:27 +0000 UTC]
actually they meet 3 times. A2 A3 and SF4. A2 is when she gets the picture of him after sparing and he lets her win
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LukeTheRipper In reply to Gamersdan [2011-08-22 08:42:26 +0000 UTC]
Hehe, A2 and A3 had many rival fights, most of which never actually happened canon-wise (like Sodom wanting to recriut Honda, etc.), similar to how most ending never happened (especially the beating Bison part).
There's a huge guide on GameFAQs, that covers all that up ^^
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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 13:25:29 +0000 UTC]
I'm going by Street fighters wikia(basicly a Wikipedia of just street fighter) which cites sources. GameFAQs is not very reliable on little trivia like that. GREAT for walkthroughs and saves though.
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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 13:59:48 +0000 UTC]
just started reading and already an issue. Capcom threw the real life years a long time ago
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LukeTheRipper In reply to Gamersdan [2011-08-22 14:39:55 +0000 UTC]
In character bios yes, but not quite in storyline XD
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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 14:53:35 +0000 UTC]
Yep it was canned from the story and as for his scource. It's a book he doesn't even give the full title too. "Some say I am full of it, but this book I will not fully disclose says I am right so obviously I am not fully of it." sounds silly doesn't it
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 17:53:22 +0000 UTC]
I meant more the familiarity he had with her. it would seem as if he'd spoken to her more then just tournaments. plus it seemed he'd actually trained her somewhat by the way they spoke. that doesn't sound like a simple second meeting to me.
at least that's how I interpreted it.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-19 20:04:29 +0000 UTC]
Well, Sakura is Ryu's fangirl, and according to her story, she learned all of Ryu's techniques when watching him on TV (that's why they are just imperfect copies), and after they met in SFA3, Ryu promised her a duel after she gets better, a promise that he kept in their SF4 rival battle.
And do note that Ryu treats many people with such familiarity... like with Cammy, who he also met only once before SF4 (in SSF2T), or Dan who he NEVER met before (cause Dan was kicked out of Gouken's dojo long before Ryu and Ken first got there).
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 21:22:43 +0000 UTC]
hmm... well all that means is the timelines seems really off. confirming anything would have to go through capcom.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-20 00:52:12 +0000 UTC]
It is complicated, but not nearly as much as Samurai Shodown for example...
And yeah, you can never trust comic books, manga or anime to confirm anything, since they're never fully canon (except for the SF4 promo anime, since it was made by Capcom themselves).
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-20 03:50:05 +0000 UTC]
yeah, it's all mixed up. then again things like mortal kombat mix themselves up. heh.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 12:48:57 +0000 UTC]
Well, MK is yet another case... and so is each and every comic book/movie/cartoon/manga/anime adaptation that is not made by the series original creators...
I dare you to give me ONE, at least one example of such an adaptation that actually followed the plot completely.
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 16:02:47 +0000 UTC]
actually i break almost all of them down because they don't follow the plot. essentially what I take it as is each one is an au world of 'said" series.
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 17:15:38 +0000 UTC]
meh. It's an au world and more oft I follow the movies or commics as canon since they have full developed plot. the game itself you have to say is somewhat lacking in actual story development. stuff just happens.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 17:47:31 +0000 UTC]
Though still, it's better to follow the original plot, even if an undeveloped one, than an uncanon copy.
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 17:51:20 +0000 UTC]
nah, as a fan you choose what you follow. if you follow something you don't enjoy why follow it? I like street fighter but i can't really tell what's going on in the story really cuz there's a beginning and an end (and only possible at that) but no middle. the movies and comics have that middle. so that's why i prefer the non canon stuff. actually until sf IV i hadn't picked up any of the games since number II hyper came out.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 18:03:01 +0000 UTC]
If you choose to follow lies, then so be it, but keep those lies to yourself, and do not try to force them in a conversation about CANON, it's as simple as that.
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 18:07:59 +0000 UTC]
I think you're taking this too far friend.
enjoy the series, have fun with it. wether poison is a guy or girl doesn't matter. follow the story you like and have fun with it. that's what all this is here for isn't it? to entertain us and give us joy? ryu and co exist for our enjoyment. if you stop having fun with it then it has lost it's value.
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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 18:32:11 +0000 UTC]
I enjoy the game, when I'm playing the game.
And when I enjoy a conversation about the game's storyline and canon, I like it to remain a conversation about the original storyline and canon, not an off-topic about uncanon gibberish no matter how "fun" it is, especially when it has been annoyingly dragged far too long.
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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 03:17:43 +0000 UTC]
eh. we can consider this the end of the debate then. to each their own.
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Reinhold-Hoffmann In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 15:08:20 +0000 UTC]
sooner or later i ll do a damn Poison cosplay in shorts to show em all ze truth
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