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Description I had this Idea since I saw that allot of people were bashin on poor Poison and calin her a trannie, but she was originally designed as a woman its just that they didnt wanna show men hittin women in America. So yea as the title says this is Poisin and she is fed up with that and so she decides to proove that shes a woman and in case my drawing of her is that bad the woman on the side is Lady Gaga supportin Pison cause she's been threw the same, not that im a fan of Lady Gaga but I thought that it would be funy.... Well enjoy and stay tuned for more
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krissar In reply to ??? [2012-03-13 16:18:43 +0000 UTC]

she sure does

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AgentAquaM [2011-09-02 20:45:53 +0000 UTC]

Either way, Poisons still pretty hot

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krissar In reply to AgentAquaM [2011-09-03 05:01:37 +0000 UTC]

True that...

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heavynorse [2011-08-20 22:34:53 +0000 UTC]

Man, woman, tranny... It doesn't matter what she is. She is awesome either way. ^^
This was a great idea for some artowork though, quite cool.

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krissar In reply to heavynorse [2011-08-21 17:09:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for the sweet words and I completly agree with you shes awesome

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LuisManuel316 [2011-08-18 16:34:11 +0000 UTC]

Except Capcom has confirmed that she is a post-op(and a Pre-op in Japan). The other characters even make references to it in Street Fighter x Tekken.

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krissar In reply to LuisManuel316 [2011-08-18 22:01:23 +0000 UTC]

lol didnt know about that.... guess I was wrong then oh well... I like to keep deluting myself i guess...

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LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 11:49:11 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and Capcom hired dudes as Poison models during the last Comic Con to show that "she" is a "woman", yeah sure

And if you don't believe me, then just look up the video from Capcoms panel about SFxT, which had most of said models lined up behind Ono

And yes, the "but she was originally designed as a woman ts just that thy didnt wanna show men hittin women in America" thing was true, but after that Capcom decided for Poison to stay as a transsexual, which they have stated several times (like in the Final Fight character profiles in Capcom Classics Collection), though Roxy is officially a woman, so I don't see a point in arguing over Poison since Roxy and Poison look exactly the same (with the color changes obviously).

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aaronmag In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 23:30:39 +0000 UTC]

They had a few cute female Poison's in there as well.

I don't know what the big deal is. Just choose the orange hair palette and then you are Roxy and there is no debate about Roxy. They are the EXACT same character model with different palettes and even Poison's voice actor is female. Capcom should just make a player 2 button option to have the name change to Roxy and everyone gets what they want.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to aaronmag [2011-08-20 00:50:15 +0000 UTC]

Well duuh, I did clearly say myself that Roxy was confirmed to be a woman, so I'm pretty aware she is

And cute or not, all of Capcom's Poison models were guys... so the "cute" ones were pretty much just traps

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aaronmag In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-20 05:37:22 +0000 UTC]

Yes I know you mentioned Roxy being a girl. My point was I was agreeing with you about not understanding the fuss When Roxy is sitting there waiting in the wings. If people want her to be a girl choose the Roxy palette. If not, choose Poison colors. It just seems like there is much ado about nothing on this issue.

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krissar In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 15:05:04 +0000 UTC]

lol didnt know they admited to it but it doesnt make sence to me because as you said Roxy is not a transsexual and she was in the game with Poison...... shell allways be a woman for me

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LukeTheRipper In reply to krissar [2011-08-18 16:02:14 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you think of it, it does make perfect sense. Roxy and Poison look the same, so Roxy's a woman for those who like women, and Poison's a shemale transsexual for those who like shemales, simple ne.

And yes, in CCC vol.1, it's very clearly stated that Poison is a crossdresser (and that the reason he fights is to maintain his slim figure), also, Ono stated the same thing in an interview back when SF4 was released, so when the "fans" kept on asking (hoping that Capcom changes their mind), they set up the male Poison models during Comic Con. So yeah, Poison IS indeed a guy, and I'm afraid there's nothing you can do about it, after all, he is NOT your character, so you can NOT make any statements like "she's a woman" when his creators have officially stated otherwise.

PS. ON a side note, probably to further hint that Poison is a shemale, his relation with Hugo in SF3 and onwards was based of the characters Blue and Mad Saulus from the anime Violence Jack (well, both Capcom and SNK base many of their designs on anime, ne XD), who were also a bitchy-lookin' shemale (acting as the brains) and a giant sized guy (acting as the brawn).

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krissar In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 16:18:15 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm kinda makes sence and your info has been very accurate im sure but... call me ignorant if you want but I just like Poison better as a female... lol take it as a gender swap if you want then we can both have our way and yea im pretty much aware that the character isnt mine but I just had this Idea and desided to draw it out, im not makin any oficial statements or anything

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LukeTheRipper In reply to krissar [2011-08-18 16:22:35 +0000 UTC]

Well, drawing Poison in a thong, who claims to be a woman, is a way to making your own official statement... and I know this will get the attention of some female-Poison and shemale-Poison fanboys in no time, spawining yet another fanboy war just under your art |D

And if it makes you feel better, Ono did state that while in the Jap. version Poison still has his balls, but in the American version, he's already had his balls nipped off. Though he's still a "MtoF" post-op transsexual, not a 100% woman

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 05:08:04 +0000 UTC]

the one question i have then if poison is officially stated as a guy is why did they make her a "her" in the street fighter comics by udon that need capcom approval. in that she is most definately a woman.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-19 08:31:09 +0000 UTC]

How much they need Capcom's "approval" is still a mystery, since I've seen waaaay more uncanon thing happening in there (like Sakura travelling along with Ryu, when in the canon story, she only met him twice in her life, and never travelled with him).

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 17:27:09 +0000 UTC]

yeah, and they have alternate time lines as the sakura ganburo doesn't have sakura meet ryu until she is a lot older and it's made by the same udon company. then again, perhaps street fighter doesn't have one perfect time line to follow. From sf IV it would sound as if ryu knows sakura very well which would be odd if they've only met twice.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-19 17:50:39 +0000 UTC]

Actually, SF DOES have a timeline. It goes like this - SF1->SFAlpha->SF2->SF4->SF3 (and the strange thing is, that SF4 does take place after SF2... but the ending of SF2 (when Akuma finally destroys Bison's soul) takes place after SF4...).
And actually, in SF4 is when Ryu and Sakura met the second time

Before that they only met once during SFA3, and it seems they got acquainted enough for Ryu to remember her.

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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 06:49:27 +0000 UTC]

actually they meet 3 times. A2 A3 and SF4. A2 is when she gets the picture of him after sparing and he lets her win

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LukeTheRipper In reply to Gamersdan [2011-08-22 08:42:26 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, A2 and A3 had many rival fights, most of which never actually happened canon-wise (like Sodom wanting to recriut Honda, etc.), similar to how most ending never happened (especially the beating Bison part).

There's a huge guide on GameFAQs, that covers all that up ^^

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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 13:25:29 +0000 UTC]

I'm going by Street fighters wikia(basicly a Wikipedia of just street fighter) which cites sources. GameFAQs is not very reliable on little trivia like that. GREAT for walkthroughs and saves though.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to Gamersdan [2011-08-22 13:39:00 +0000 UTC]

And what makes you think that such a guide doesn't cite sources?
Here you have the guide - [link] which has a rather rich list of sources at the bottom

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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 13:59:48 +0000 UTC]

just started reading and already an issue. Capcom threw the real life years a long time ago

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LukeTheRipper In reply to Gamersdan [2011-08-22 14:39:55 +0000 UTC]

In character bios yes, but not quite in storyline XD

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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 14:53:35 +0000 UTC]

Yep it was canned from the story and as for his scource. It's a book he doesn't even give the full title too. "Some say I am full of it, but this book I will not fully disclose says I am right so obviously I am not fully of it." sounds silly doesn't it

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 17:53:22 +0000 UTC]

I meant more the familiarity he had with her. it would seem as if he'd spoken to her more then just tournaments. plus it seemed he'd actually trained her somewhat by the way they spoke. that doesn't sound like a simple second meeting to me.
at least that's how I interpreted it.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-19 20:04:29 +0000 UTC]

Well, Sakura is Ryu's fangirl, and according to her story, she learned all of Ryu's techniques when watching him on TV (that's why they are just imperfect copies), and after they met in SFA3, Ryu promised her a duel after she gets better, a promise that he kept in their SF4 rival battle.

And do note that Ryu treats many people with such familiarity... like with Cammy, who he also met only once before SF4 (in SSF2T), or Dan who he NEVER met before (cause Dan was kicked out of Gouken's dojo long before Ryu and Ken first got there).

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-19 21:22:43 +0000 UTC]

hmm... well all that means is the timelines seems really off. confirming anything would have to go through capcom.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-20 00:52:12 +0000 UTC]

It is complicated, but not nearly as much as Samurai Shodown for example...
And yeah, you can never trust comic books, manga or anime to confirm anything, since they're never fully canon (except for the SF4 promo anime, since it was made by Capcom themselves).

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-20 03:50:05 +0000 UTC]

yeah, it's all mixed up. then again things like mortal kombat mix themselves up. heh.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 12:48:57 +0000 UTC]

Well, MK is yet another case... and so is each and every comic book/movie/cartoon/manga/anime adaptation that is not made by the series original creators...

I dare you to give me ONE, at least one example of such an adaptation that actually followed the plot completely.

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 16:02:47 +0000 UTC]

actually i break almost all of them down because they don't follow the plot. essentially what I take it as is each one is an au world of 'said" series.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 16:44:21 +0000 UTC]

So I advise you don't take Udon comics as canon in any way, including Poison's gender

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 17:15:38 +0000 UTC]

meh. It's an au world and more oft I follow the movies or commics as canon since they have full developed plot. the game itself you have to say is somewhat lacking in actual story development. stuff just happens.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 17:47:31 +0000 UTC]

Though still, it's better to follow the original plot, even if an undeveloped one, than an uncanon copy.

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 17:51:20 +0000 UTC]

nah, as a fan you choose what you follow. if you follow something you don't enjoy why follow it? I like street fighter but i can't really tell what's going on in the story really cuz there's a beginning and an end (and only possible at that) but no middle. the movies and comics have that middle. so that's why i prefer the non canon stuff. actually until sf IV i hadn't picked up any of the games since number II hyper came out.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 18:03:01 +0000 UTC]

If you choose to follow lies, then so be it, but keep those lies to yourself, and do not try to force them in a conversation about CANON, it's as simple as that.

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-21 18:07:59 +0000 UTC]

I think you're taking this too far friend.
enjoy the series, have fun with it. wether poison is a guy or girl doesn't matter. follow the story you like and have fun with it. that's what all this is here for isn't it? to entertain us and give us joy? ryu and co exist for our enjoyment. if you stop having fun with it then it has lost it's value.

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LukeTheRipper In reply to mortalshinobi [2011-08-21 18:32:11 +0000 UTC]

I enjoy the game, when I'm playing the game.
And when I enjoy a conversation about the game's storyline and canon, I like it to remain a conversation about the original storyline and canon, not an off-topic about uncanon gibberish no matter how "fun" it is, especially when it has been annoyingly dragged far too long.

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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 06:51:25 +0000 UTC]

idk I still think Superman First Son is the REAL story of Superman

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mortalshinobi In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-22 03:17:43 +0000 UTC]

eh. we can consider this the end of the debate then. to each their own.

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krissar In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 21:49:44 +0000 UTC]

Personally I dont think that my art is influential enough or good eough to be used as a refrence for that kind of statement plus I disaprove of any kind of fanboy war... so im afraid if it was ever used for that kind stuff Im gonna take the drawing down... and the last pat about the balls didnt make me feel that much better

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Gamersdan In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 13:04:26 +0000 UTC]

damnit you beat me to it

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LukeTheRipper In reply to Gamersdan [2011-08-18 13:38:16 +0000 UTC]

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Reinhold-Hoffmann In reply to LukeTheRipper [2011-08-18 15:08:20 +0000 UTC]

sooner or later i ll do a damn Poison cosplay in shorts to show em all ze truth

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krissar In reply to Reinhold-Hoffmann [2011-08-18 22:37:24 +0000 UTC]

I dare ya

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LukeTheRipper In reply to Reinhold-Hoffmann [2011-08-18 15:51:43 +0000 UTC]

I think that Ono in a Poison outfit was quite enough (well, he didn't have the wig, but he still wore the Poison outfit during Comic Con)

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Reinhold-Hoffmann [2011-08-18 10:29:26 +0000 UTC]

SHE IS STILL A TRAP!!!!111

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krissar In reply to Reinhold-Hoffmann [2011-08-18 15:05:33 +0000 UTC]

how come?

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