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"Hey there! Do you like BL? Good!
Have you ever stopped to think about rape culture?
What is it? Oh, let me start by explaining it, then.
Of course everybody knows what rape is, but I’m afraid most people don’t fully understand how much of an awful, terrible thing it is, mostly because stories and such portray it as something trivial, or even commendable, or just an expression of love.
Then I have news for you: it’s none.
And do you know why most people think that it’s ok to rape someone? Because it is portrayed to us this way by all kinds of media.
Rape culture is basically what people make when they make it sound like something daily, or common, when it’s not. It’s a severe crime and it leaves deep psychological scars that take years, decades to heal. But now, of course you’ll think this way if you get rape shoved into your face every day as if it’s the newest delicious dish on a fast food menu. And this is exactly why I’m making this text right now.
So, you think I might be exaggerating? That rape is actually not as bad as people make it sound, since it’s basically “just” forced sex, right? And there’s no way sex can be bad.
Well, I’ll start by saying that people who fight against it don’t consider rape sex, at least not for the victim. Let’s start from the beginning: yes, it is bad. It’s actually worse than you could ever think. Starting with the stereotypical case scenario of the stranger on the street: it is terrifying that someone has the strength to just do whatever the hell they want with your body.
Not so long ago, in my country, we heard of a case about two girls who really like this band and, when they went to get autographs, they got raped. Of course people got really mad and went to the streets and tried to make them pay through justice. Then those people were in front of court making lots of noise and this old lady approaches and says “aw, why do you do that? Of course what they’ve done is wrong, but they’re good boys and they’ve repented”. The woman who she was talking to took a deep breath and answered: No, they’re not good boys and they didn’t repent. Do you know what happened? One of this girl was stripped naked and violently penetrated by men who took turns. While she bled, cried and screamed for help, another one tried to shove his penis inside her mouth and she’d have her face punched, meanwhile the other girl was suffering the same horror in the bathroom.
Still don’t get it?
While bathing, have you ever accidentally scratched your intimate parts while cleaning them? That goes for both girls and boys. It hurts, right? Now imagine someone doing this to you nonstop, no matter how much you cry out and say it hurts. That’s pretty much it. It’s not cool, it hurts. And it hurts most in the soul than it does on the flesh.
Now, everybody knows, or at least should, about how women are treated by general media like merchandise and things made to give pleasure to their male partners, right? It’s always shown this way on whatever you see, from TV and magazines to shoujo manga, and there’s then I start to get back to my point.
Do you know why BL was created? It was a form of revolt against sexist ways of society. Especially in Japan, women never considered themselves equal to men, so, by putting themselves in the place of the “uke”, they could more or less know what it felt like to be on a balanced relationships. Good, right? Wrong, very, very wrong! Because most of the elements of shoujo manga were passed to BL as well, rape included.
I ask you, please think with me, think hard. How many BLs you know that portray someone getting raped in some way? Now how many you know where it doesn’t happen at all? See where I’m getting at?
What makes me the saddest is that even good stories that didn’t have any need whatsoever of rape in it, have. Even some of my favorite characters, like Morinaga form Kousuru Boukun end up raping their partners and it makes me go “oh, heavens, why” over and over inside my head. And don’t even get me started with stuff like Viewfinder or Okane ga Nai. It seriously, honestly makes me wonder if the mangakas are ok inside their brains if they can’t come up with a good love story without rape on it.
You know what’s worse than BL mangas? BL games. I’ve played and/or know the storyline of tons of those and didn’t find one, one, for heaven’s sake, that doesn’t have rape at some point. For crying out loud, even my most favorite one, DMMd, has a route full of it. Thank you lots, Mink (feat. Virus & Trip). I know I’ve just said it, but it really makes me wonder what’s wrong with people. Do you think all gay couples rape? Or do you really think rape is the ultimate expression of love? It saddens me how it’s seen as some kind of fetish or that it’s ok to be raped as long as you love your attacker. It’s not. No means no regardless of the relationship you have with the person.
I’m not saying no story can have rape in it, though. But you must learn to tell apart the story showing it as fetish, as something good, and the story showing it as a form of criticism. J no Subete, for example, has some of the most shocking rape scenes I’ve seen, but in no way they’re shown as something good nor that lead to a romantic relationship.
And please, don’t think the character has a good reason for raping. There’s never a good reason for it. So what if he has a very sad back story where all his family got killed and then burnt and he’s a loner and… Well, if it was real life, those things wouldn’t absolve the attacker on judgment, would they? They wouldn’t make you feel sorry for him or that it was ok to do it because he actually just needed some loving, would they? If you think they would, then I must ask once more what’s wrong with people.
It doesn’t matter how the story is sad and how much he’s suffered, it just doesn’t, ever, justifies making another human being suffer this much.
One of the most concerning things is that some rape scenes aren’t even seen as rape by people, because, to them, it is just something that happens on a black alley, late at night, when you’re alone and some random drunk attacks you. Big mistake. I quoted Morinaga back there, so let’s start with him, shall we? It doesn’t matter how much this character is adorable and has this very sincere love towards his senior, which he’s been harboring for a long time... Taking advantage of someone while they’re drugged or drunk it’s just a big, red, bold, capital letters, no. That’s rape. Yes, that’s rape, even if he loved him, even if he’s adorable, even if he was careful not to hurt. Still rape. Because Tatsumi didn’t consent it.
It gives me mixed feelings, actually. On one hand, I love the character and want him to be happy. On the other, I’m sick tired of stories portraying the attacker as someone nice who lost its temper because he just loves the other this much. Freaking seriously, that’s not love. And I don’t say the because I have pink colored glasses that make love seem like this beautiful utopist thing, but because accepting someone’s right to say no it’s just the least decent thing you can do.
So, people, from the bottom of my heart, please, stop backing it up. It’s not love, it’s not cool and it’s making you all lose part of your humanity, little by little.



By the way, I found a very interesting tumblr: consensualyaoicollective.tumbl…

The post in my tumblr: askkury.tumblr.com/post/704212…
Please share if you agree with it


And I agree with everything. The more I read about rape culture in the internet, the more sensibilized I become.
I also want to say that Kusari was the first and last story that we made with this theme. And we became more mature since 2009.
This all was made to just make you think a bit about it. Please don't get offended or spread more hate than it already exists.

Edit: For those commenting "but there isn't rape just in BL genre" or "there are more important things than this", I would like to say: I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but I'm fighting for what I consider important. There are indeed many things and problems in the world that can be considered important according to each point of view. So...If there are other things that you consider important, why don't you fight for them too, instead of just complaining here?

Edit2: I think people fail to understand that when they want to have sex, it's not rape anymore, so it can't be called a "rape fantasy". It simply makes no sense. They might like rough sex or extreme submission scenarios, but it'll never be rape when there is consent. It's absolutely impossible for someone to enjoy rape because the etymology of the word means it's an act made against the wish of the other person. I won't even bother answering these type of comments. Your fantasy isn't rape fantasy, wake up. You have no idea how this is desrespectful to rape victims. I'll just recommend you looking for a "role playing word" in google called "subjugation", that you probably might not know and though it was equivalent to rape during your entire life. Repeat with me, you enjoy subjugation, not rape. Nobody is able to enjoy rape. Done.
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Comments: 861

ElfGRape [2019-02-08 03:04:47 +0000 UTC]

Haru wo daiteita has a rape scene when the two porn stars are filming a sex scene, both with underwear on until iwaki's underwear is forced down and he is raped (he did not consent) and has blood drip down his leg

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sluttyuke [2018-12-20 12:23:51 +0000 UTC]

But you still like Dramatical Murder? what

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Lun-Sei [2018-12-18 19:26:03 +0000 UTC]

Sorry but I'll keep enjoying my fake rape manga because I can distinguish fiction from reality. I'm guessing you have a problem with videogames and action films too, since they're all about murder.

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Jjr3cLuger2400KTL [2018-08-05 16:29:15 +0000 UTC]

rape culture is a myth

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cassiebruce In reply to Jjr3cLuger2400KTL [2018-09-19 06:54:50 +0000 UTC]

Nah…I hate r*pe culture in heterosexual or yuri, but I actually enjoy it when it comes to yaoi…yaoi is seldom what I love, but it always turns me on if r*pe elements are added…I especially fell thrilled when seeing male antagonists suffering as they deserve this…it serves the corrupt pimps right…

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chibicutelucy [2018-05-03 23:20:32 +0000 UTC]

I think is okay to use rape on a story, just if its well used and not something cute or hot.

many people has the fetish to be forced. But they dont know that the real rape is not like those you see in yaoi mangas. so is wrong to call it rape in many cases cause they do not represent a real rape situation. 

rape is never a good thing and it will never be, so stop saying is cute, rape is not like most times in manga.

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Genis-Sage2007 In reply to chibicutelucy [2019-02-09 22:11:50 +0000 UTC]

B L E S S  Y O U

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Kurama-chan In reply to chibicutelucy [2018-05-07 11:49:31 +0000 UTC]

Yes, you got exactly what we meant.

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chibicutelucy In reply to Kurama-chan [2018-05-10 02:23:21 +0000 UTC]

^^

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DeadDorian [2018-04-28 08:50:35 +0000 UTC]

No to rape @ thousands of misandry castration\cbt arts and stories full of sexism.
Snowflakes fights for nothing, when sexism, misandry, violence propaganda against MOST VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE is legal, "fun" and justified, and even irl castration punishing 10 times less then just a rape and "nonsexual" genital violence agains mens dont punishing at all... Yaoi fangirls just have psychological phobia of rape being most defended big social group in laws and society... Hilarious, in the site where thousands justified and ballbusting and castration arts you fucking "fight" against imaginary rape culture... Fuck it, check your privileges and shut your sexist mouth pls.

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isaacandr [2018-04-27 20:20:20 +0000 UTC]

The yaoi is an 'anything goes' in the most literal sense of the word; parents and children, siblings, student teachers, vampires and blood bags. They had to endure for years the criticism of conservative sectors for their homoerotic content and sinful hypersexualization, AND THEY DON'T CARE AT ALL!!!! they continued doing what they wanted the way they wanted. Why do liberals think that yaoi fans will listen to their complaints and criticism when they didn't do it with the right?

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ChametzKiwi [2018-03-23 14:25:25 +0000 UTC]

im a big yaoi fangirl and i agree with you.I hate it when people put rape in BLs.BL stands for BOYS LOVE!
Rape isn't love!it's abuse!

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PastellTheSylveon [2018-03-19 07:22:07 +0000 UTC]

Rape culture is shit

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stinkypikmin [2018-03-11 16:53:34 +0000 UTC]

duck you

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Kaniok [2018-02-16 20:42:27 +0000 UTC]

rape culture fokin suck.. i hate it either...

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MagicRainBowBros347 [2018-02-03 21:05:02 +0000 UTC]

*!I hate RAPE, but I LOVE YAOI!*

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Sunflower--Queen [2017-11-21 13:47:35 +0000 UTC]

rape culture shouldn't exist in Yaoi  or BLs anyway. 

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angiee45 [2017-09-11 06:51:53 +0000 UTC]

I what is BL? I am not familiar with it. I am familiar with some yaoi. 

I have read some fanfiction stories that include rape. I have seen stories that have had characters get raped and then their rapist becomes their lover. It is strange and I commented on it on one story. Speaking in terms of realism, it is strange and unrealistic that the victim of rape would come to love their attacker. When I see a story like that I would want the relationship to be portrayed as a bad relationship. I would want the story to show that there is something wrong with the situation. 

I have heard of rape fantasies though. They exist in erotica. They purposely don't portray rape realistically. The story always starts out with the victim afraid and saying no, and end with the victim saying more and being satisfied. The rapist gave his victim the best sex of their life. I know a man who once dated a women who asked him to "rape" her. He hid in her house and "attacked" her. He said it was strange and he never did that again. 

Part of me wants rape fantasies to be banned, but I know people hate censorship. I worry about feeding some questionable desires. Folks who enjoy those stories are not necessarily rapists, but the fantasy is problematic. It is not the same as bondage fantasies where the sub willingly gives control over to the dom. Rape is violence. 

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BunnieBot In reply to angiee45 [2018-03-09 02:40:21 +0000 UTC]

It might be because of Stockholm syndrome and the rapist showed kindness to the victim so they (the victim) started to come to love them.

This happened in Killing Stalking and my mother also had (maybe even still but I live with someone else) it.





(This is so late to comment on but whatever)

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DynastyOfSin [2017-04-13 23:21:03 +0000 UTC]

I don't know if this is a prank OR a drunken post

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PheeVee In reply to DynastyOfSin [2017-11-10 01:21:55 +0000 UTC]

What's wrong if they're against rape?

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61021376 [2017-03-25 14:21:16 +0000 UTC]

#BringOurFictionalCharactersHome

By the way, rape culture is bullshit

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LopsidedFrosty345 [2017-03-01 01:41:33 +0000 UTC]

I don't like BL or Yaoi but I do believe that rape is wrong.

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AlexisYokoAlexander [2017-01-28 02:40:41 +0000 UTC]

You`re right, rape is not love. I even know yaoi where rape is shown as a bad example and the agressors are punished . Sorry for bad English...

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Cakebomb25 [2017-01-27 19:44:57 +0000 UTC]

You do realize everyone knows rape is fucked up, correct?

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Paper-Piper In reply to Cakebomb25 [2019-01-27 19:32:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but it doesn't stop people from getting their jollies off on it.  There's literally a whole section in some porn sites with "forced sex" or "having sex with  drunk/sleeping girl" which is 100% rape because the victim cannot consent either because they were intoxiated or were coerced into it. 

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CJtheEAofMAS [2017-01-10 03:40:08 +0000 UTC]

That's the reason I hate yaoi, is a shame people don't understand it and start accusing you to be an homophobe just because you don't like seeing a dude forcing himself on the other when is telling him not to do it and even start crying and is visible in pain. Sorry if this in her but those persons have to have rotten whit instead of a brain if they fail to see that the things that make yaoi disgusting is not the boy-on-boy stuff but the heavy rapey undertones it have. Maybe it exist a yaoi that is consensual or something but the most of the time there is "yaoi" is practically a boy forcing himself into the other, I know is just an anime but It still Its disgusting people see that kind of bullshit as "romantic".

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isaacandr In reply to CJtheEAofMAS [2018-04-27 20:23:26 +0000 UTC]

The yaoi would become the ultimate representation of female desires and fantasies. A genre created exclusively to satisfy a female audience by female authors. Therefore it seems logical to me that women and girls defend that gender by ignoring all its obvious flaws and problems.

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CJtheEAofMAS In reply to isaacandr [2018-04-28 01:40:39 +0000 UTC]

I know is fiction and all but well, is a disgusting fantasy anyway, and I find it to be extremely hypocrite from women and girls who like the genre and defend it to death since I'm so sure if it were an hetero couple and the man was forcing himself into a woman and she is crying, in pain and all that stuff but then she's all in love I'm sure this same girls will whine about how this is like glorifying rape and violence towards women. I have nothing against gays though, but the way they are represented in yaoi (and yuri) is just so "unamused" I just understand why the creators of this stories can't make somethings decent as the heterosexual counterparts, because doing yaoi/yuri poorly just for the sake of having something "inclusive" without really taking care for the characters and the plot and just the f***ing, is so pathetic and lame...

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isaacandr In reply to CJtheEAofMAS [2018-04-28 04:59:56 +0000 UTC]

I don't know what kind of Yuri you will see, the ones I know are romances that only exist in the form of a subtext and that most of the time are platonic and not explicit, apart from that they are loaded with heartbreak and tragic endings.

And as for the yaoi, I understand your outrage I think nobody likes double standards. But it is certainly, apparent our 'lack of empathy towards males' didn't start with the yaoi. The Slapstick comedy consisted of male characters involved in different painful, hurtful and humiliating situations. One could laugh at the misadventures of the character without guilt because the viewer was sure that he would be fine at the next scene. Maybe something similar happens in the yaoi, We associate the male pain and suffering as if it were something comical and therefore enjoyable. But you don't have to listen to me, it's just speculations of mine.

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CJtheEAofMAS In reply to isaacandr [2018-04-28 17:31:54 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, at least the most of yuris are like that, sadly there are some that rely the trope of "sexual assault" to develop a relationship, but is presented in such a "light-hearted" and "soft" way people won't even notice".

That’s the saddest part, I really don’t like that type of “comedy” either for all the hypocrisy it is behind. I mean I could have no problem if people in general won’t “Satanize” authors that out violence against women from men in their stories like the author is a “misogynistic piece of shit”, but laugh and enjoy men being “megaton punched” by girls. I understand that violence against women by men is a real issue, but so is violence in general, so I’ll never understand why all the taboo in fiction, I mean if they are so okey with violence “female on male”, “male on male and “female on female” why bitching and whining about “male on female”? I know that’s the largest number of violence in the world, but “categorizing” violence in that way is doing more harm than good.

And sorry if I’m even sounding “salty” in here but is so unbelievable that people in general won’t care so much for some types of violence in real life, with real people getting hurt but they will make fun of real victims anyway. But will turn absolutely ravid and furious wanting to boycott and even threat an author for putting “male on female” violence/rape/etc. Saying that is contributing to “rape culture” or some other stupid arguments. Oh well I know maybe the mentality of people will never change, but I’ll never accept double standard for sure.

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Philhellenike [2017-01-06 05:52:07 +0000 UTC]

One of the many reasons I have never enjoyed manga, yaoi or otherwise. 
That being said this is a bigger problem than just manga. It goes back to 19th century "heroes", and has it's roots in the same kinds of stories that also promoted Eugenics and other such exploitative ideas. Because ultimately that is what rape is about: exploitation. It's about showing that you have the power to control another person's body, and use it for your own purposes. It is about enslaving the victim, and it is as much a psychological phenomenon as it is a physical one. Indeed you can have a story about rape without any sex at all. This is how a city can be said to have been raped btw: such as in the "Rape of Nanking".  Ultimately though this issue goes all the way back to the Romans, and the "Rape of the Sabines". If you have a strong stomach, this story is worth a read: but it's pretty disgusting how they glorify the rape of these defenseless peasant women.  

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The-Emmeranne [2017-01-05 03:57:57 +0000 UTC]

👏👏 not sure if you are still active but I readed all your post and I completely agree with you. I think it's ok portraying as criticism and how wrong it is. Though I don't really like yaoi it's important to say it's not a women-only problem as many believe. It makes me wanna to puke when I'm reading a story or even straight visual novel and there are nasty sexist phrases or the fucking abuser is portrayed as romantic or """"protective"""", and when they end up together????? I wish this could be extinct! What's even worse is that many of these things are done by women, that GROSS 50 shades of grey is an example (and many other books and manga we don't know). Huge turn off!!!!

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AlwaysAmberley [2016-12-24 13:06:16 +0000 UTC]

Wow.. I was moved by your motivational speech .
rape in anime and manga isn't that bad tbh. Some people quite enjoy it. 
I agree with your story about the two girls but yeah. 
Xx
ps love your art! It's amazing 

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Kurama-chan In reply to AlwaysAmberley [2016-12-24 16:53:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!
I only did the drawing, the speech was made by my girlfriend! ^^

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AlwaysAmberley In reply to Kurama-chan [2017-01-13 14:42:26 +0000 UTC]

youre welcome  tell her it was amazing!~

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shippingmania [2016-12-06 16:22:08 +0000 UTC]

I didn't get what was BLs and I look it up on urban it said ball licking an sucking and I thought what hell is she talking about. Then I realized it is yaoi BoysLove

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WomenInTheRain [2016-11-20 04:14:00 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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WomenInTheRain In reply to WomenInTheRain [2016-11-20 04:25:46 +0000 UTC]

Also, one more thing. Rape fantasy is also shown to be voluntarily experienced by groups of rape victims after traumatic experiences of rape, because, (like what it does to ppl in general) it empowers the victim by allowing the victim to have control over their situation and rewrite what they could have done that time. It also help ease the guilt and shame that victims feel when they unexpectedly enjoyed their traumatic experiences by painting a clearer picture of their experience with themselves controlling and navigating the situation to relieve the emotional and physical trauma

More info on rape fantasy

www.pandys.org/articles/rapefa…


www.psychologytoday.com/blog/w…

www.experienceproject.com/ques…

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WomenInTheRain In reply to WomenInTheRain [2016-11-23 12:31:59 +0000 UTC]

Did someone remove my first comment? I had hoped ppl would be level headed in discussions

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nyanpheonix101 [2016-10-20 05:05:14 +0000 UTC]

Kill it (rape) with fire!!!!
Burn the rapers
Burn!!!!

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AlexisYokoAlexander In reply to nyanpheonix101 [2017-03-17 20:00:43 +0000 UTC]

You're right!

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themyfullname In reply to nyanpheonix101 [2016-11-11 20:09:32 +0000 UTC]

If we burn the rapists, we won't be any better then they were.

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nyanpheonix101 In reply to themyfullname [2016-11-12 00:15:25 +0000 UTC]

Nah, I think we'd still be better.

They lose their humanity the moment they take away something a man, woman, or child can never get back.

Humans KNOW better.

I know killing isn't good, but is rape better?

If they can't punish them by pain or death, at least have them in prison for life. People who do things like that don't change. Once a rapist, always a rapist.

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EstrellaDelVenice258 [2016-09-10 05:21:26 +0000 UTC]

Totally, rape in manga, in general, has been a problem for a while. They always make it look so romantic that it makes me want to barf anytime I see it. 

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whitebunny1063 [2016-09-02 17:13:08 +0000 UTC]

Amen to that.

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xXWillyWonkaXx [2016-08-24 21:59:15 +0000 UTC]

There isn't any rape in Bukiyo Na Silent 

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Glacethewolf [2016-07-23 01:40:53 +0000 UTC]

Please, me and others would love for you to enlighten us on the proof that there is a "Rape Culture" in the Western Countries

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to Glacethewolf [2016-08-30 09:35:22 +0000 UTC]

I would agree, but I think you are counting out the fact we are indeed heading there. With all this rape scare going around, would you be surprise if we all of a sudden turned into a rape culture?

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Kurama-chan In reply to Glacethewolf [2016-08-24 23:32:06 +0000 UTC]

There are lots of texts that already did that, I don't think I need to do that.

But just to give one simple example: if you think it's fine to have sex with a drunk girl that has no control os her actions and can't really make a choice, if you don't think this is disgusting and absurd, you're part of the rape culture.

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