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VanessaSF9 [2017-09-12 21:35:04 +0000 UTC]
Nice pic, one of the five sailorgirls in the series should have been black too.
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to VanessaSF9 [2017-09-12 23:38:17 +0000 UTC]
In the proposal to adapt the Japanese anime Sailor Moon, Toonmakers (A saban endorsed company) had plans for that but it was a super weird version they were going to do with the girls being very diverse, it taking place in America instead of japan.
Sailor Jupiter was made to be black in that version but the pilot was never aired and it ultimate never happened.
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VanessaSF9 In reply to Kuroshi-tenshi [2017-09-13 07:57:32 +0000 UTC]
never heard of that but Makoto would be the one I would have chosen too. Fits her most, dont know why though...
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to VanessaSF9 [2017-09-13 21:29:09 +0000 UTC]
Probably considering her character is perceived as violent and super strong/always alone type of person who wants to be seen very feminine and soft but everyone gets the wrong impression. And then contrast it to the stereotypes black women have been given as a whole - it pretty much makes it easier to see.
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VanessaSF9 In reply to Kuroshi-tenshi [2017-09-13 21:38:06 +0000 UTC]
I know several anime or videogames where the black/dark skinned girl is the one with the physical strength. So yeah thats why I probably had Makoto in mind too.
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GoldieTheSnake [2017-05-06 06:21:22 +0000 UTC]
I really think this is amazing. My goodness, I just remember reading about Elation and her story you posted. Haha, from time to time, I still think of that amazing story. Amazing job!
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to GoldieTheSnake [2017-05-06 07:30:40 +0000 UTC]
Ha, thanks. I still have stories in my head about it. And thoughts of redoing it sometimes. x3
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-03-08 01:01:44 +0000 UTC]
Hey, and thanks! Yeah, I'm still around a bit. Still uploading some. What site, if I may ask? Anyway, things are as well as to be expected as I hope they are for you.
thanks again. o3o
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-03-16 01:57:20 +0000 UTC]
Ha I'm about the same on that- (can't complain and all) but yeah. Been trying to do original works too but that's mostly off site and all. but yeah, I am mostly working on some art stuff on and off these days.
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-03-18 23:49:41 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah, I have a lot of them. Now if they're finished, is the question. Finishing is always the hardest part. It is difficult to create brand new universes too. I still like playing around with Sailor Moon because there's still a lot of interesting angles and I like taking my What ifs and turning them into an original stuff. (of course my poor ignored works too.).
Feedback is gonna be hard even on websites for authors and all. I'm on inkitt and I legit haven't gotten a single comment when I first posted almost six months ago. It's hard to build an audience, most def. Or get feedback at all.
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-03-20 23:51:47 +0000 UTC]
aaah... There's a long complex thing on that. Depending on the fences you sit on. But even if it is 'yaoi' (using the loose term here. ) it has to be a popular and very pale-passing kind of Yaoi that people (mainly women) gravitate to. The people that *are* gay and that are against, it are only against it because they don't want to be used as wank material for straight ladies. That's it. That's all. They want to tell their own stories too. (you'd be surprised how hard it is to find a romance novel by actual gay men and not some woman.)
But that's a can of worms I cannot open for reasons that it's not for me to speak about but to lift the voices of others who have concerns about it.
(growth, I do its. Because I wrote yaoi a lot before so I know how the game works. Consequently I also wrote yuri as well. Which also oddly not as popular either?)
I only came to DA because art? I guess? A lot of Sailor Moon Fandom stuff to be honest. I was more of a Ff.net person back then though. -It's been years though so I don't really remember my original reason other than to show off fan-characters and stories. Which, of course, includes yaoi and yuri too.
I don't think I was really concerned with being popular much? But comments would've been nice in some shape or form and some times my interests align with what's popular. -just how it goes-
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CaribbeanRose9 In reply to Kuroshi-tenshi [2017-03-22 20:41:36 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I can agree that it's a complex subject. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's just my observation here, tis all. I agree that it's a certain yaoi type. Don't ask me why. Years ago, I tried getting into yaoi, honestly. But it just didn't appeal to me and over time it actually got........boring. Yep, I've heard lots of reports about how gay men are actually kind of put off by yaoi and the fans because it's the idealized homosexuality, the fact that it's "unattainable" and a fantasy to these women that makes it hard for gays to be taken seriously. Gay men are sometimes harassed by over-zealous straight woman obsessed with this and it puts them off. Gays just want the world to know they can have normal lives too and there's nothing "CUTE!" or "COOL!" about them. They're just regular people, not like on these yaoi anime and mangas. But yeah, there is concerns, I agree with you on that. I have to say, the art here was amazing when I first found out about DA and joined. Now, sadly, it's all about the "fad" and the disturbing fetish people are putting on here. I've seen pics of female genitalia and saw it had so much faves. WTF? But yeah, it IS can of worms. But it is what it is and right now, I'm just focusing on my stories, not worrying about being "popular".
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-03-23 20:57:35 +0000 UTC]
It's not so much that it's unattainable, it's just.. Not accurate. Which, really when you get down to it every story that centers on romance or romantic ideals is literally that, though. The difference, however, isn't just the writing but the fans reactions to it and then equating it with IRL stuff. (which, ya kno is also a thing that happens even with straight stuff. ) Like, you already have a marginalized stifled group and now you wanna turn them into a fetish, sort of deal.
I will tentantively say, that if it wasn't for still viewing them under that lens *and* as a 'sin' (mostly the latter too.) , no one would have issues with it because, well, part of life and among other things.
But mah, that's another thing.
I generally don't go nowhere else but on my homepage because I have groups I like watching for the content I'm going for. (It's just that now and then, people decide Suddenly they can't read/comprehend what a group is fort and just submit whatever to it. <- which drives me nuts, of course.)
I wouldn't worry too much about fads or trends because, well, that's just how things are even on the grand scheme of things. It's nothing. Eh.. nah, genitalias don't bother me but the -other- things make me tilt my head and 'x' out fast. -but again another day for that.-
I just try to stay in my "...what senshi can I make?" world.
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CaribbeanRose9 In reply to Kuroshi-tenshi [2017-03-25 20:22:17 +0000 UTC]
Exactly, it's the IMAGE, and fantasy of gay men that most attracts them, as well as them being afraid of being labeled "homophobic" if they don't like it. It's sort of like "HEY Look at me, I love yaoi and homosexuality! Do you think I'm cool now? Like me, fave me, comment me for liking yaoi! Like MEEEEE!" Sometimes I wonder if many of these screaming yaoi fangirls even really like yaoi and such. Is it about their image? Is it the fear of being called "intolerant" or "homophobe" if they don't worship it and they'll be ostracized? Yeah, it happens with straight, normal couples, but much more so with yaoi anime and manga. To me, it's all about being "accepted" and part of a group, which teen girls gravitate to. So yeah, it's a very touchy, complicated subject that frustrates and alienates so many people, gays included. But like you said, part of life. Yep, I'm not part of any groups or clubs dealing with established shows or books. I swear, I would get into so many fights. So I stick with original stuff, my own original stories.
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-03-25 21:17:46 +0000 UTC]
-shrugs- Sa, but you got to remember how old these girls are and the elementary understanding a lot of them have about things and the world- since we're not all born with the knowledge of things and how it effects people. A lot of them do go on to either possess a greater understanding of why certain things are wrong (whether they are right about it or not ) and generally grow out of it.
I am part of SM groups and all, but I generally keep to a few close people because I don't get into arguments over that sort of thing, really- but more over representation and race ect is mostly my thing but never on DA (or rather I *try* not to on DA because I do not have the tolerance or patience to walk people through things often. ). Though, I also don't like being told what to do, too so that's a thing.
And good luck on the original stuff. I'm still working on it. x.o it's such a pain to come up with a rule of how things work or what wouldn't work. (and lets not even look at grammar. )
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CaribbeanRose9 In reply to Kuroshi-tenshi [2017-03-31 22:46:28 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I agree. Many teens today...especially girls, are influenced by social media, magazines, and television. Everything they see, hear, and experience through electronics is what they take for reality, thus why they believe all these things such as yaoi and yuri is "COOOL!" For them, it's also all about fitting in, to make sure they agree with and like the same things they see so they can be seen as "liberal" and "progressive" as their peers and those they admire on television and movies. It's all about the culture.
Oh wow, not liking being told what to do? That's a very.....basic..human way of looking at things. I can understand the human nature and ego of not wanting to be told what to do. And in some sense, I could agree with it. If you know what you're doing, if you're experienced in something, if you know the consequence of an action before doing it, then yes, you shouldn't be told what to do by someone who doesn't understand or someone who doesn't know you. I understand you in that. But I do accept and understand that in certain circumstances, in certain situations, you DO need to be told what to do. In some cases, it can save your life. You need to be told what to do to make something work, to make something happen, to make something safe. I'd much rather have someone tell me what to do in a situation that just be arrogant, egotistical and stubborn. It's all about common sense when it comes down to it. Ahh well, that's just me though.
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to CaribbeanRose9 [2017-04-01 00:22:13 +0000 UTC]
There's also the flip side of things knowing that both girls and boys (yes, the biggest consumers of Yuri are boys. ) is also that a lot of the time they're questioning/not straight so, of course they're going to do that. This is kinda why generalization and blanketing them all is sort of a double edge sword because it's not true for them all. We all grow from different parts and yes, Yaoi and Yuri, not really oddly enough, helps in normalizing things but it also does something that someone pointed out and it's in a lot of media even if it *isn't* Japanese in origin is that, at least in the Western sense, we always equate same-sex relationships (or any consenting legal relationship that's not considered 'normal' by society as a whole, when I think about it ) as having to *have* to be sexual. Even a simple thing as holding hands is equated to that.
Again, as you said, it is all about culture and the reason why it's seen as 'liberal' and 'progressive' is because on the other you have people who demonizing and persecuting actual people for simply being in love. Plus then, you have the added pressure of "What side of history will you really be known for?" that's low key in the background.
Basically, no matter how you slice that, you're going to find two or more arguments for and against it. -and I'm so not going to go further into that. x.o -
Lol, yeah, basic, but it comes from basic beginnings of always being told what to or not to do and having little control of your own life from hair to clothing for a long time and being unable to experiment with it when it could've been safe to do so. Also, the thing for me, though is it stems from how things are phrased. If you're phrasing it like you're condescending know-it-all, I'm less likely to give three quarters of a rat's tail about whatever is being said because of it. I also am disinclined to do what's expected sometimes if the person is presumptuous. For instance, I like pairing my characters with whoever and however I feel. I feel I shouldn't be told what to do in that. And as you said, as long as I understand the consequences and all, it's fine. (Because, as studies have shown, fandom is particularly... I'll go with 'interesting', in their shipping preferences. Especially if it erases already marginalized people or plays into harmful stereotypes or tropes.)
Basically, this entire "I don't like being told what to do" only exists when it comes to fictional works and my own love life. If it doesn't hurt anyone and all, than yeah, rightly bounce off. I don't mind being instructed in things, especially if I ask and if it's beneficial but if it oversteps boundaries, then yea.
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CaribbeanRose9 In reply to Kuroshi-tenshi [2017-04-04 23:09:23 +0000 UTC]
Heh heh, yeah, I don't blame you for not wanting to get too deep into it. Like you said, it'll open a can of worms and people (over-zealous fans) will just nit-pick and find something to be offended at. Yep, I understand too that yaoi and yuri anime and manga can help young gays or people who are questioning their sexuality cope with the stress of it. It's all about them feeling accepted. While I'm not exactly into glorifying homosexuality or gay marriage like the over-the-top fangirls, I also believe everyone deserves respect and the ability to live a decent life, gays included, and I definitely don't agree with harming or de-humanizing gays. If yaoi and yuri can help gays or bisexuals cope with their lives and learn to accept themselves, then so be it. That's fine. But it's the over-zealous fangirls that turn me off sometimes, not the gays themselves. So ya, enough of that. I agree with you, it's all about the approach and the tone of voice and attitude when it comes to be told what to do. People don't like to be......talked down to, belittled. I do believe there are instances we need to be told how to do things, but like you said, if it's condescending, forget it. Heh, at least you have a love life. *chuckles*
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SRColoringPages [2017-03-05 06:02:35 +0000 UTC]
I didn't do that base/coloring page, you got the wrong person lol.
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to SRColoringPages [2017-03-05 08:00:48 +0000 UTC]
Crap. It hardly happens but thanks for pointing that out. -I must've gotten it from someone else.- x.o
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SanguineInkSlinger [2017-03-02 00:15:54 +0000 UTC]
A lovely group of badasses. Altogether all of them together would make an impressive team!
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Kuroshi-tenshi In reply to SanguineInkSlinger [2017-03-02 00:23:08 +0000 UTC]
lol thanks, and yeah they would. If they managed to listen to each other well enough. (Lambda wouldn't even bother. Elation's passive-aggressive and X would be very bossy.) xD;
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