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Published: 2020-05-10 18:27:04 +0000 UTC; Views: 10468; Favourites: 243; Downloads: 13
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Description A lone Brachiosaurus prowls a plain in the Morrison Formation during the Middle Jurassic 150 million years ago, when it encounters a group of colossal Barosaurus.
Drawing based on the BYU 9024 specimen (a cervical vertebra) previously referred to as "Supersaurus", due to the problem of identifying what number of vertebra it is, it has been difficult to calculate the length of the animal, since the position of this vertebra would indicate the size of the ones before and after it, which would make having somewhat more accurate measures. It is thought to be a vertebra belonging to positions C11 to C14, which gives an average estimate of 43 to 48 meters in length and an estimated weight of 66 tons. This based on a formula used to calculate the sizes in this type of dinosaur.
This specimen is much much larger than the rest of the known specimens of Barosaurus, since the average size in these animals is 26 meters long and 20 tons, and only the neck of this specimen (based on these estimates, and assuming that are correct) would measure 15 meters, a little more a little less. But only the neck would be longer than the tallest brachiosaurus. An animal like this, in adulthood would not have predators, not even the powerful Saurophaganax (Allosaurus maximus?). It is curious to think if this would be a species of giant Barosaurus, or this specific specimen reached an unusual size.
Reference:
svpow.com/2019/06/16/supersaur…

Un solitario Brachiosaurus ronda una planicie en la Formación Morrison durante el Jurásico medio hace 150 millones de años, cuando se topa con un grupo de colosales Barosaurus.
Dibujo basado en el ejemplar BYU 9024 (una vertebra cervical) anteriormente referido a "Supersaurus", debido al problema de identifiación a que numero de vertebra es,ha resultado dificil calcular la longitud del animal, puesto que la posición de esta vertebra indicaría el tamaño de las anteriores y posteriores a ella, lo que haría tener medidas algo mas acertadas. Se piensa que es una vertebra perteneciente a las posiciones C11 a C14, lo cual da una estimación promedio de 43 a 48 metros de largo y un peso estimado en 66 toneladas. Esto a base de una fórmula usada para calcular los tamaños en este tipo de dinosaurios.
Este ejemplar es mucho mucho mas grande que el resto de especímenes conocidos de Barosaurus, puesto que el tamaño promedio en estos animales es de 26 metros de largo y 20 toneladas, y solo el cuello de este ejemplar (basandose en estas estimaciones, y suponiendo que sean las correctas) mediría 15 metros, un poco mas un poco menos. Pero solo el cuello sería mas largo que el brachiosaurus mas alto. Un animal como este, en edad adulta no tendría depredadores, ni siquiera el poderoso Saurophaganax (Allosaurus maximus?).Es curioso pensar si este sería una especie de Barosaurus gigante,o este ejemplar en específico alcanzó un tamaño fuera de lo normal.
Referencia:
svpow.com/2019/06/16/supersaur…
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dfafdsadfadfsadfs [2021-10-27 02:34:22 +0000 UTC]

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JosephBrunoroBeilman [2020-12-22 09:04:26 +0000 UTC]

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bluewingfairy [2020-05-11 12:50:30 +0000 UTC]

Good morning friend, Amazing Giants!!!!!!!.

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to bluewingfairy [2020-05-11 16:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Good morning Yes, the most fantastic creatures of all times!! 

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bluewingfairy In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-11 18:00:23 +0000 UTC]

Yep!!, how are you?.

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YellowPanda2001 [2020-05-11 06:49:40 +0000 UTC]

gulp

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Hamish1512201 [2020-05-10 22:00:19 +0000 UTC]

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to Hamish1512201 [2020-05-10 23:58:57 +0000 UTC]

As for length if it is greater, but weight is what determines if one animal is larger than another (in biology and therefore in paleontoogy), since diplodocids, despite being very long, were lighter than other sauropods. Since for example a common Barosurus of 26 meters is estimated to be 20 to 22 tons in weight, while a Brachiosaurus of 26 meters is estimated to be 30 to 50 tons.

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asari13 [2020-05-10 21:55:28 +0000 UTC]

cool

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to asari13 [2020-05-10 23:38:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Wolfman3200 [2020-05-10 19:30:23 +0000 UTC]

If the measurements are true, that would make Barosaurus the longest land animal to ever live. 

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to Wolfman3200 [2020-05-10 23:52:00 +0000 UTC]

yes 

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Wolfman3200 In reply to Wolfman3200 [2020-05-10 19:33:29 +0000 UTC]

If the measurements aren't however, then it is going to sit in the gigantic graveyard with Amphiceolias, Sesimosaurus, and others. 

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to Wolfman3200 [2020-05-10 23:51:42 +0000 UTC]

Sadly, but at least the investigation was released. And this further supports the idea that this animal existed and has a better record. In addition to knowing the approximate position of the holotype vertebra, its calculations must be more precise.

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Wolfman3200 In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-11 00:29:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah and that is where this specimen might end up being smaller than thought where it might end up being proportionately thicker rather than just longer because of the square cube law. 

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to Wolfman3200 [2020-05-11 16:14:43 +0000 UTC]

That is, in fact it is what normally happens when discovering fragmentary remains and later finding something more complete. Only a new, more complete discovery will reveal more about these giants.

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Wolfman3200 In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-11 16:22:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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kaijusaurusG2k [2020-05-10 18:53:01 +0000 UTC]

That Barosaurus has a very long neck. It must be as long as a whole basketball court lol

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to kaijusaurusG2k [2020-05-10 23:37:50 +0000 UTC]

In fact, the complete specimen, if it had the correct measurements, should measure almost the same as 2 basketball courts, since these measure 29 meters, and the animal is estimated at 48 meters.

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kaijusaurusG2k In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-11 01:23:03 +0000 UTC]

Do you believe the amphicoelias (sorry if mispelled) was really 200 ft long or not?

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to kaijusaurusG2k [2020-05-11 16:25:24 +0000 UTC]

The truth is everything is possible, it is considered an invalid species now because the holotype is missing, which means that a formal study cannot be done (possibly that fossil is destroyed because of the bone war or simply hidden in some warehouse). It is possible that this animal was not as long as a Diplodocus would be, if not rather a flatter but equally large creature (since the estimates were made based on Diplodocus, which is quite long) but even if they are dinosaurs of the The same family may have had a different morphology, for example: Apatosaurus and Diplodocus, even though they are close relatives of Diplodocidae, they have their differences. It is likely that Amphicoelias has been a somewhat flatter animal, 150 to 180 feet long, but anything can happen.

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kaijusaurusG2k In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-11 17:05:13 +0000 UTC]

So the Amphicoelias could’ve been 200 ft long after all?

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to kaijusaurusG2k [2020-05-11 22:12:12 +0000 UTC]

Maybe, but we need to have more parts of the skeleton and then do better proportions of size 

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kaijusaurusG2k In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-12 00:33:01 +0000 UTC]

One question related to your monsterverse drawings: since the x ray images are most definitely placeholders, what are you gonna do with the Bunyip, Typhon and Fake sekhmet designs? Are you gonna redesign bun and ty cuz I’m starting to think that they aren’t what we were led to believe.

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kaijusaurusG2k In reply to LADAlbarran2001 [2020-05-12 00:30:01 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Loch Ness monster turns out to be a plesiosaur after all

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kevinobill [2020-05-10 18:29:43 +0000 UTC]

Barosaurus is probably the only Sauropod Dinosaur that I saw in books as a child but never appeared in any forms of media, Brachiosaurus and Stegosaurus are the best.

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LADAlbarran2001 In reply to kevinobill [2020-05-10 18:34:05 +0000 UTC]

A highly underrated dinosaur, at least it has its own montage in the New York museum and many people have seen and known it because of this

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