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Description hate me today
hate me tomorrow

Hate Me - Blue October

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soo ... critique.

this is part of the 25-Song iTunes Challenge. #13 of 25. [link]

-Stock-

horse - *venomxbaby
field - =SalsolaStock

© lesliemarie-manips. 2010
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mypunknightmare [2010-02-06 01:31:36 +0000 UTC]

Overall

Vision

Originality

Technique

Impact


e.deviantart.net/emoticons/w/w… " width="25" height="20" alt="" title="Hi! - "/> Hi ya ^_^
I was browsing through EE's new folder and came upon your deviation and it caught my eye. I see you would like a critique, so I would like to give you a fair warning beforehand that I can babble a bit, but I do my best to back up my ratings and such. I'm in no way meaning to be mean or put down your work, I'm trying to help you improve in the future ^_^

Disclaimer aside, I will start with the first rating in the system: vision.
Originally, I had given the rating of three and a half stars because I could tell you were trying to convey I guess a shadowy, hiding feeling to the image in such a way that it was your own. But, because the manip is dark, some details are hard to see and piece together. On my screen, I can see the horse is posed in the best position for this manip. At the same time, it seems that the horse is more shy. It is as if the horse is saying "hate me" in a whisper, a timid way, which is intriguing, interesting. Now, the reason I took the half off was even though I can see these emotions, others with screens at a lower brightness might not be able to see the image. Also, more and more horse manipulators seem to be using this technique in which there's a light filter with one ambient, bright patch near the middle...I'll get to that in technique.

Originality: While, as I said, more and more equine manipulators are using this technique of a light filter, I believe your intentions were to bring out the emotion of the piece. The only thing is the technique needs to be tweaked just a bit and it will be perfect. As I mentioned above, the horse seems to be shyly asking for others to hate it, and usually in hate manips the horse is angry or angsty. In a way, I find this image really really cute. Because I find it cute, and the character seemingly timid, I boosted up the originality rating. I will always know this is your manip, every time I look at it.

Technique:: This is where things get a little funky. I tend to get very technical...I will start with the lighting. When looking at the image, I can tell you did the following things: Used a horse, painted in eye and tail, erased (maybe drew?) around the left hoof, and added a light filter. I can see a little of the background, but not much because of the lighting. When using the light render filter, many things can go wrong in the image. Think of it as taking the burn tool and going around the image in a circle, then in the center using the dodge tool. (Not a pretty thought is it? e.deviantart.net/emoticons/f/f… " width="15" height="15" alt="" title=" (Sad) - "/> ) The render filter tends to take information out of the picture, lighting, color, and detail. On a dark screen, I would probably see the mane, eye and shoulder because of the filter. Also, using lighting filters, learning them, takes a lot of time. They are tricky little things, where just the right amounts of them can be used to create a perfect scene. In this image, I can see a little bit of your vision, but the decision to use the filter this way might have not been the best execution as I would call it. But, that's okay, it's all in the learning process. Maybe, instead of keeping the full filter, try changing the layer opacity. Copy your image, use the render, and then try different layer styles and fills.

Impact: I rated this low because the image is hard to see. I mentioned before on a darker screen I would not be able to see much of the image. When making an image, an artist tries to convey feelings visually. As a viewer, it's hard for me to tell your intentions, what you want to say to me, because the image is dark. (Just remember the burn and dodge analogy ^_^ While they are great tools, they can be overdone, but it all comes with practice ^_^)

I know of a few tutorials which might help you with lighting in future manips.
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One thing that helps me is looking at more advanced works. I will look at how the artist placed the light source, how they reflected light off of the horse. Some paint in the lighting, some use filters. In the end it's what you are comfortable with.

I hope this long babble helps in one way or another. Keep up the great work!
-MPNM / Faden
e.deviantart.net/emoticons/r/r… " width="15" height="15" alt="" title="Rose - "/>

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to mypunknightmare [2010-02-06 14:39:53 +0000 UTC]

thank you for this. it actually really helped. the shy look you see was intentional. i wanted it to be awkward and out of place. as if they didn't know were to go because everywhere they went, they didn't belong.

as for the lighting, i see what you mean. but i tried to use a pastel aftertaste after using the lighting effects filter, and it went kinda weird. it looked fine at first, but after i was adding final things i realized i really should of fixed it.

thank you though, this really helped.

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mypunknightmare In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-07 00:55:03 +0000 UTC]


I figured the shyness was. As I said, I will forever know this piece is yours out of the hundreds of thousands of horse manips due to your artist intent, I guess is the best way to put it.

Hmmm, I'm thinking composition now, did you try blurring the background? Maybe having another horse staring at the character...adding a bit of an uneasy feel to the image? I'm kinda just throwing out ideas into the wind. I get carried away with stories and compositions.

The good thing, and most important thing to remember, is that you tried an idea and even though it didn't go as well as planned, it was still a learning experience ^_^. The more you play with a program, the more you learn ^_^

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to mypunknightmare [2010-02-07 14:32:59 +0000 UTC]

haha, your right. i do need more practice with my program. XD
and i didn't blur it, but background kinda blurred itself out in comparison to the horse when i sharpened it a bit.

thanks again ! <3 (:

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venomxbaby [2010-02-04 23:11:16 +0000 UTC]

thanks for using my stock <3

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to venomxbaby [2010-02-04 23:12:04 +0000 UTC]

not a problem, it was gorgeous. i had to use it.

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venomxbaby In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 17:06:13 +0000 UTC]

awesome ^_^

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Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-04 06:42:42 +0000 UTC]

*faints*

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-04 21:40:52 +0000 UTC]

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 21:44:36 +0000 UTC]

it's GORGEOUS!!

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-05 21:46:28 +0000 UTC]


so are you.

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 21:46:57 +0000 UTC]

oh so sweet. <>

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-05 22:18:55 +0000 UTC]

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 22:20:18 +0000 UTC]

P:

i pokeh teh tongueh.

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-05 22:22:08 +0000 UTC]

haha. im in a good mood.
hockkeyy sooon. mwahaha

( going to a game, not playing in one )

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 22:28:26 +0000 UTC]

good mood.
drat, you go has fun while i revise japanese. )x

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-05 22:29:12 +0000 UTC]

you whattt ?

and yes good mood for once. might start a manip before i go to the game. hmm

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 22:34:43 +0000 UTC]

DO IT!!! please?

and i have japanese homework. having a start-of-year test on monday. XP

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-05 22:52:23 +0000 UTC]

haha ok ... just for you. i'll even dedicate it to you. im working on boots and boys by ke$ha. haha ... this is going to be funny..


japanese homework. woah

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 22:57:43 +0000 UTC]

ohayogozaimasu...i think that's how you spell it?

that means good morning in japanese. YAY! my jap teacher will be proud of me.
oh christ, i also have some english, maths (OHMYGOSHIDIDN'TTELLYOU!! my english teacher is also my maths teacher now...aaah double cuteness!!), french and history. P:

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-05 23:04:22 +0000 UTC]

haha, but thats alot of homework.

the horse would look demented in boots. how can i still use boots in the picture though ??

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-05 23:12:03 +0000 UTC]

hell yeah. P: it's due in on friday. XD

maybe but a pair of boots near the neigh neigh?

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dancing-In-Heels [2010-02-06 00:00:56 +0000 UTC]

haha i have math homework due on monday, and an english technology timeline due too. in math we're doing the pythagorean theorem.

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Dancing-In-Heels In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-06 01:08:39 +0000 UTC]

woah, you'll have fun. x]

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SunnyBlueDay [2010-02-03 21:17:53 +0000 UTC]

I love that eye- what an expression!

Mane looks lovelaaay

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to SunnyBlueDay [2010-02-03 21:18:53 +0000 UTC]

thanks so much.

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SunnyBlueDay In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-03 21:20:15 +0000 UTC]

so welcome

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kaedoh [2010-02-03 20:50:57 +0000 UTC]

It's amazingg Dylan. But I agree with ThraxzGirl, you could add a few more shadows in the mane. Other than that, I don't see what else to say.

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to kaedoh [2010-02-03 21:02:16 +0000 UTC]

thanks ! and i added more shadows.

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kaedoh In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-03 21:08:27 +0000 UTC]

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Dactik [2010-02-03 20:36:20 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I can't give an official critique, (not a premium member :/ ), but I can give you some small feedback

Strong Points; I love the originality, its very simple, but very emotive, and the mane and tail are drawn excellently, they're so smooth and flowing..

Weak Points; Possibly have, a bigger contrast in colours from the black frame, to the horse, as in, make the horse and background brighter to make them stand out more. And maybe more shadows in the mane, it looks a little bright in comparison to the horse.

Overall, awesome

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dactik [2010-02-03 20:42:13 +0000 UTC]

thanks so much. i've just editted it, and uploaded the newer one. does the mane look better ?

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Dactik In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-03 20:51:22 +0000 UTC]

Yes, much better! Try adding some darker areas on the mane just underneath the neck to show that the neck is casting a shadow down onto the mane. Sorry, I'm being picky but I really do like it!

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lesliemarie-manips In reply to Dactik [2010-02-03 21:02:40 +0000 UTC]

no no. its all good. thank you.

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Dactik In reply to lesliemarie-manips [2010-02-03 21:09:29 +0000 UTC]

Your very welcome

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