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LightningBoomer — Death Battle: Accelerator vs Add
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Two very powerful Anti-Heroes who are intimidating and quite sadistic on the outside, but show to be something else on the inside. Will Accelerator take the gold, or will the Diabolical Esper make his time run out?(Note, this is Diabolical Esper Add being used here)
Accelerator is from Toaru Majutsu no Index
Add is from Elsword
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I go for Diabolic Esper cuz accelerator angel mode is no limit but his ability is only vector controller and add had a infinity knowledge of time and space so he can create time hole to destroy everything that vector can't reach for
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I give the fight to accelerator hands down.
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this is a no brainer even if accelerator was at full power there is no way he could stop add when he has achieved diabolic esper reason being add in this form can destroy entire time lines along with being able to revers any damage done to him, plus all his abilities hit enemies instantly accelerator would be destroyed in seconds. were talking about a guy who got beat buy a avarage joe vs a guy who eventually becomes the master of time and space
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You aren't very well aware of Accelerator's ability are you? Here, read this page: toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/…
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Here is something to consider about Add. Recently in the novel, he wiped out all of Aisha's memories and abilities. All of Accelerator's calculations CAN be gone in an instant. Whether it WOULD happen is still in question as neither of the characters are fully developed. Looking at the current state of both characters, I know the answer. But I'll leave that to your brainstorming. There is a lot of stuff going on in this fight and memory wipe is just one of them.
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He would have to be able to bypass the Accelerator's main ability to do so. I still give it to Accelerator.
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LOL, seriously, Even without his handicap and going full angle form from the start, he can never hope to beat Diabolic. We're talking about someone who could control and bend time and space here. I don't think He could even beat time tracer which is DE's previous form, who masters time manipulation. There's nothing that Accelerator could do..
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You are not very good at reading the descriptions of abilities are you?
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Same could be said to you. I know fairly well who's Accelerator is and how far his power could do. Unlike you who I think only reads on ability traits and watch the anime, I actually read the novel. Compare to beings on the magic side, Accelerator is practically nothing ( even got beat up badly by a guy who actually knows how his power works). And I can fairly guest that you know absolutely nothing about Diabolical Esper Add. He's a genius who masters time control just by studying himself, finding out Accelerators powers and how to counter it would be nothing to him. The dude literately wipe out an entire reality just because he couldn't figured something out.
DE's power is absolute and there's LITERALLY nothing Accelerator could do to him.
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I have read the novel's as well. I also play a fair bit of Elsword. I know how both characters work and for the most part, there is nothing Add could do to Accelerator that he could not respond to in kind or just negate by changing the vector paths of the attack.
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Dude, did you just use in game mechanics as DiE's feats?.... OMG, I don't know where to start...
Search for DiE's lore, read his novel.. then think for yourself. Aside from the basic dynamo attacks, DiE's abilities aren't physical, hence no vector to manipulate. Do you know what absolute control of space and time is? He can just rapture a dimensional rift inside of Accelerator, completely bypass everything and turned him to goop, because every concept of space is his. While at that, he could create his own space where nothing can affect or reach him. There's no magnitude nor direction or anything to deal with here. I don't even want to talk about time manipulation here (simply goes back time and erase his existence?, nah too easy and boring). The guy destroys worlds for god sake..
Let me tell you the ONLY three most absolute power in everything;
the ability to control mater(energy); This is for most power users. In Accelerator's case.. His power is absolute in control anything that have energy, and the only Esper who could potentially reach level 6, when he is in his angel form(a being closer to the celestials level). According to Aleister Crowley, the only level esper who could hope to stand against the magic side. Now he's handicap (mentally retarded. Seriously. Ironically he can't even talk without the Misaka network, let alone to do simple calculations),.. bye bye potential.
the ability to control space(dimensions); higher magical beings and celestials (gods and angles) in the index verse, where a level 6 could just hope to defeat the most lowest tier of this category. This defines the word omnipresent. Barriers? Shields? Those things means nothing. Oh hey, Add manage to do this :/
the ability to control time(realities); they (gods and a few angles) could only be challenge by one another and nothing else. These are the ones that could affect the multiverse. Apparently, Add learn how to do this way before he's called The Diabolical Esper. :I
If you think that's unfair then fine, we use his in game mechanics. His level of intellect and abilities like paranoa is enough to deal with Accel. Hek, he can even just experiments on Accel's barriers with his dynamo and calculate the distance of reaction then programed it to pull back at the very last second. well that's ugly to imagine :/.
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Let's cover what you have said since you seem to dislike reading (and spelling the word angel correct. Angle is things like 45 degrees and such. Not celestial beings.)
Accelerator's main and completely passive ability is Redirection, this you know and have covered but seem to have either misread or misinterpreted things. Here is a quote that deals with the whole "dimensional rift" argument you have which informs most people it is not just things with matter which are effected by this ability. "It is said to even be able to reflect teleportation vectors in the 11th dimension, though a strange phenomenon would occur in the 3-dimensional world, so thus people could not teleport harmful objects into his body, as most teleporters would do in a battle. And with magic, information regarding magic attacks affecting his field is limited, though when Accelerator tried to redirect Vodyanoy's attack on his person it was not completely redirected but disintegrated into a rainbow of light." The eleventh dimension is clearly a different dimension from our own and Accelerator's passive ability at his peak can nullify it.
While Add may be able to destroy worlds, it has been presented that Accelerator himself has the potential to do so when he was used the planets own vector rotations to launch an attack that had the side effect of it's rotation slowing down by 5 minutes. If he had used even more of the planet's vector rotation, he could stop it completely. By simply using that power to launch an attack like his earthquake generation, he could easily destroy the planet no questions asked. However, it takes more force to stop a planet from rotating than it does to simply destroy the planet as you have to act on it with the exact same force it is currently using to rotate instead of using enough force to blow it to pieces(as those pieces would still be rotating as their blasted away).
The mind hacking thing is not unique to Add, Accelerator can accomplish this feat as well and has done so to Last Order to erase a virus within her mind. If Accelerator and Add were at their peak, it would be safe to say that neither would chance getting close enough to use said ability due to their vast intellect. In terms of an actual battle, neither would stand still due to their nature. Both would be actively fighting, Add would naturally try using his dynamo to experiment on Accel's barriers but it would not be without Accelerator targetting and destroying them as it has been presented that those are Add's main weapons so the natural reaction would be to destroy them.
The only thing you have me with so far is the time thing but I don't see that as much of an issue again due to the characters nature. Personality wise, Add is very similar to Accelerator, they both like a challenge and they both like playing with their prey to naturally Add would not use it so, at least in my mind, there is no reason to address or consider it. It would be a good fight, but I still feel completely safe with saying that Accelerator has it narrowly due to his defensive capabilities being more than enough then anything Add would more than likely throw his way.
This was all without mentioning his angel form by the way. A little excerpt about that from the wiki for you, please do try to read it. " Whenever he awakens, Accelerator usually loses almost all control of himself and begins to speak in the language of the angels. He gains the ability to understand laws that are hitherto unknown and unexplainable to him, and no longer needs contact with vectors in order to control them. When under tremendous emotional pressure, he manifests massive black wings, stated to be made of the same "Dark Matter" that Kakine Teitoku creates with his ability. These wings do all the vector-related calculations for him, implied to be much faster than his original capabilities, and as a result he does not need the Misaka Network to manipulate vectors in this state." As well as "he manifests white wings and a halo and is able to block a massive amount of Telesma that Fiamma Of The Right launches from the Star of Bethlehem. The angelic nature of his ability is described as "The One Who Wields the Power of God."" The things mentioned prior are literal angels, meaning he does not just possess the power of angels, but the power of god himself. In this case, based on all the ways it is presented in the series, they mean the Christian/Catholic god, aka, the one who created all things.
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Wow, took you long enough to reply to this. Almost didn't care to check my notification anymore, but you seem persistent. Tho I'm kinda disappointed that you just copy pasted the wiki assuming I didn't know a thing about it. Oh yeah, and sorry about the angles angels part. Not an English native and the brain tends to do that. I'm gonna reply to you base on your paragraphs.
Your argument about teleportation nullification is missing the point. There's fundamental direction in teleportation hence its something Accelerator could control when he find out while he fought. But this feat still rely on mass and mater as it showed only nullifies the things that was sent to him, even magic via dimensional rifts, not the dimensional rapture it self. He can't do a thing if the very fabric of his own space is shattered while him turning inside out. well, if you still believe that couldn't happened, how about the space surrounding him.. sending him to an endless void or straight to the sun would be nice.
I'm confused here, I never emphasis the world to be just a planet.. And yeah I didn't say he might destroy worlds, I said he did. Add destroys all existence in a reality that denies what he believes, so yeah.. "Every Existence In a Reality"...
Mind hacking huh, hurm.... sorry but that's not how Add's power works. He doesn't simply mind hacks or erase memories, he erase the history of that memory occurrence of ever happening. For example, lets take Elsword, trained and learn from when he was a kid to the point that he could summon infinite numbers of swords rivals that of Gilgamesh, without enuma elish of course but Armageddon sword. Imagine all that training, learning and experience erased just like that. He wouldn't have all his abilities, techniques, or even the physique that he worked for. If this ever apply to Accelerator, he wouldn't even have that name. And if you think that DiE Add needs to get close to use this ability, that's where you're wrong. There's no such thing as close nor far to someone who controls the very fabric of space.. The dynamo's purposes is more to physical approach like mater manipulation and stabilizing complex calculation. And if you think it is easily destroyed by physical means then you're mistaken. It will take at least some thing strong to the point that it could rip space to even leave a dent to it, and there is still no occurrence of even one of them to ever been destroyed. It's not as feeble as flying armaments of a weapon, each of those things are pure El crystals combined with ancient nasod tech. And even so, DiE main powers of space and time came from the Dark El embedded in his chest and his power's are unlimited and infinite because it gain energy from other realities of its existence.
I don't know where you get the idea that Add wouldn't do that. This also shows that you don't know anything about Add at all. Add is a realistic guy. Before he became The Diabolic Esper and was a Time Tracer, he was abusing his time control to the point of changing realities just because he couldn't save Eve. He's not someone who enjoys extra work nor someone who wants challenge. His a type of person who wants to solve things quickly if he considered it a problem. The only similar traits is that he love to lough manically when he does something exciting. As a Diabolic Esper, he could even change the realities of others even without changing the existed reality he's in. Tho, I do think that DiE wouldn't just straight away erase his existence because he will never even see Accelerator as a problem to begin with. He also likes to make it as painfully slow as possible to the point that he even might heal Accelerator after ripping most of his body to shreds and kill him over and over again while making him remember. If there's a single moment that DiE thinks Accelerator as a nuisance... well you get the point.
Yeah that title was given to him because his absolute ability. and yeah I know everything about how the wings could calculate by it self at that moment. I don't have to paste the wiki just to convince you that I know, unlike you. For some reason, I don't think even you know what Accelerators true potential is. Accelerator could control "anything" that have energy and mater whether its logical or magical. when he start's to know the laws that goes beyond the scientific boundary is when he receive that title. Even so, currently he can't even do shit to angels and higher magical beings that affects the universe, let alone multiverses.
Accelerator at "Max" is planetary level. In that picture, city level at max with handicap.
Diabolic Add is Multiverse level. The only reason DiE isn't transcended to god level or anything beyond is because he only focused on sciences and not magic. There are two character that transcended beyond DiE that focused on all means and that is Glave and Luto. Both of them are punish by El, the god in elsword because of this. Glave is chain with something that restricts most of his powers and was divide from all his emotions and Luto was trapped in a dimensional hell to look guard. There's also a theory that Glave, Luto and DiE is Add from different realities but there's still no concrete basis aside from the distinguish white hair and personality traits.
There are so many ways DiE could Annihilate Accelerator without even a second pass. Yet I couldn't even think one single thing Accelerator could do to DiE. Nothing physical could effects DiE at all when he has complete control of time and space.
Looking at your case, your opinion is biased just because you know one character and don't even care to look up the other. And then, ironically, makes further remarks that I don't like to read. If you continue to make this pointless remark again, you just going to make yourself look like an idiot.
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I'm planning to write out a full analysis of this fight but there are a few important factors:
1) Characters are taken into account at their current state, unless there is a HUGE timeskip like in Naruto and Avatar. Which means Accelerator will only have the powers he possesses NOW because he would face Add AFTER what happened in his universe.
2) It's rather difficult to analyze characters from games. In anime, what we see is what Accelerator can do. In Add's case, it's a bit different. Game's job paths are usually strengthening a part of what the character already has. So, it's more important to look at the characters themselves and their true characteristics. For example, CrA is TOTALLY in a seperate timeline from what we know as "Elesis", while all of Raven's jobs reflect his true personality equally. From the story, we can see that he decided to enhance his nasod arm while retaining his sword skill from his army experience. Raven will still give up getting revenge and follow the El team, Add will still chase after Eve's core and Elsword will still train hard to be as strong as his sister. In Add's case, it would be DE = LP > MM in terms of representation. While MM "the alternate path" may not have the lunatic personality we know from Add, Add can still create systems with drones (call back to when he decided to create a cooling system)
The scenario would be that Accelerator faces the "usual" Add where he can create drones, manipulate plasma and punch people to death. After a while, DE may rip a dimensional gate and take over the "other Add". I know, my explanation is a bit confusing but I'll give a full explanation in the blog and it will make more sense.
Will Accelerator be able to decode Add's esper abilities before his demise? If he could, will it be enough? Find out later in one of my future blogs.
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Alright, this should be interesting.
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Accelerator at full power no time limit: wins
Accelerator as pictured above: Unsure
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Yea, agreed. The form closest to matching with Accelerator is Diabolical Esper, which is why I included that form in the battle.
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