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lordmesa In reply to Enoch-LXX [2008-09-15 15:45:40 +0000 UTC]

Hi Enoch...not sure if he's selling these online, he's based out of Southern California...if I find out anything, I'll let you know!

Thanks for the interest!!

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lordmesa In reply to alvarius [2008-09-15 02:37:56 +0000 UTC]

Pretty broad comment to make there alvarius...in actuality I've done alot of design work featuring typography for learning materials, packaging, and t-shirt design...I checked out your gallery and didn't see much creative typography work...

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alvarius In reply to lordmesa [2008-09-15 08:04:53 +0000 UTC]

Hey, im just trying to say that the typography does not match the quality of the illustration. No reason to attack my gallery. Besides, im an Art Director, not a designer.

No matter, the fact is that this typography just dosen't cut it. Take critique or don't. Luckily it's your choice...

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231705 In reply to alvarius [2008-09-17 17:39:21 +0000 UTC]

alvarius, i hear you and understand you but we have to keep in mind that the design is for a gym shirt.

as an art director, you should know that the illustration means nothing if the name of the gym is not clear. it just defeats the purpose.

and as lordmesa said, its the client's design choice, not his.

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alvarius In reply to 231705 [2008-09-19 14:48:13 +0000 UTC]

I DO have in mind that its for a gym shirt, THATS why i think the typography is wrong.

Maybe not wrong, but just set badly. Its squeesed together. Specially the M in Muscle.
The wave effect makes it less readable. The choice of font is OK, but not great, and i think it kinda stands out from the drawing in a way that it looks put in quickly, and not as a part of the illustartion. It couldent be used in that way later for a pure logotype either, så that should also have been taken into concideration.

SO: I think this makes it less clear.

Clients dont know design. Its a designers job to guide clients. If they have opinions that dont work, you should make suggestions and have examples of other ways of doing it. If they in the end insist, you do as you are told, and take the money.

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231705 In reply to alvarius [2008-09-20 03:27:17 +0000 UTC]

eh, to each their own.

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lordmesa In reply to alvarius [2008-09-15 13:49:01 +0000 UTC]

My reply wasn't meant as an attack on your gallery, it was an observation based on your comment on my typography skills. It seems that if one were to make such a statement, they should have work to reflect that expertise. In addition, the client was absolutely loved the design overall (font and all). That critique is what matters most to me.

Incidentally, you're an art director, but not a designer???

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alvarius In reply to lordmesa [2008-09-16 09:02:57 +0000 UTC]

Shit, this is an incredible reply. I am realy sorry i commented on your work. Be shure it will not happen again.

PS. Read what an Art Director actualy does, and then compare to what a designer does. There is a huge difference.

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