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CindryTuna In reply to Prince-Lui [2013-08-28 12:19:54 +0000 UTC]
This seem more like a comment than a critique.
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MaGeXP In reply to Prince-Lui [2013-08-22 19:23:27 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for such nice words. I'm not that good I would like to be, but I happy that someone appreciate my work! You really make me feel better and motivate to work!
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Prince-Lui In reply to MaGeXP [2013-08-22 19:35:25 +0000 UTC]
tbh i think you have one of the best art styles on DA. and its ok!...
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themusicman314159 [2013-08-22 06:01:47 +0000 UTC]
Overall
Vision
Originality
Technique
Impact
(WARNING: THIS IS A LOW RATING THAT IS JUSTIFIED. PLEASE READ IT ENTIRELY BEFORE ACCEPTING OR DECLINING.)
Vision: The background is practically non-existent, the make up is overdone, so is the hair, and you probably copied and pasted some of your earlier work together. (That is what really brought down the rating.)
Originality: Oversexed ponies. Not like I've seen a millions and a half of those on the annals of dA before.
Technique: Since the description doesn't say if this was traditional or digital art, I'm guessing this was a digital cut-and-past fiasco. To be more nit-picky, The back-left leg of each one of them has it's left curve curving toward the buttock, when the original MLP style curves away from the buttock. Also, the shadowing is almost non-existent.
Impact: I couldn't even begin to imagine a story for this, nor any cultural commentary.
Yes, I gave you a low rating. Extremely low, actually, but it is only because I want you to improve! I've seen your user page and I know your dedicated to art, but only getting compliments will not help you get better.
The best advice I can give is you need to slow down and pay more attention to the details.
CAN I GET A "WHOOP! WHOOP! FOR MAGEXP" COMMENTATORS!?
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Samira-Eos In reply to themusicman314159 [2013-08-23 06:29:43 +0000 UTC]
"There is no such thing as "defending your work," only attacking mine."
No.
She's defending her work, because your "criticism" is STUPID.
You are immature. Just because someone is saying that youc critique is a bullshit doesn't mean that he can't take negative comments. I was criticising Mage's works for years and if my critique was smart, she was listening to me and vice-versa.
And again - your critique WON'T HELP ANYONE IMPROVE. 'Cos it's trying to pick non-existent things, dude!
Let's see from the top...
"The background is practically non-existent, the make up is overdone, so is the hair, and you probably copied and pasted some of your earlier work together. (That is what really brought down the rating.)"
OH REALLY.
Thease are adopts. You GOT TO SEE the design. Background - very cute and simple, by the way, HAVE TO BE "Non-existent".
There's no make-up. Non-existent things, as I was saying.
Hair is a matter of taste. I personally love the second one, but third - not so much.
And last - worst - "Copy-paste". Who are you to say that? You have NO IDEA how she's working on her drawings. And you can SEE THERE CLEARLY that it's not a copy-paste! She was drawing this ponies one by one with heart. Why did you ever use this argument, just to find something to be rude about?
Gosh...
Ok, ok. Move on:
Oversexed ponies.
... Boy. I'll show ya something. THIS is an oversexed pony: avante92.deviantart.com/art/Qu…
This above are cute. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX.
"I couldn't even begin to imagine a story for this, nor any cultural commentary." I'm sure you couldn't. They are to sweet for your style. For mine too, 'vos I'm working on fantasy mostly. But there are people that are diffrent than you and me. And those ponies will be perfect for them, aye.
And the best!
"Yes, I gave you a low rating. Extremely low, actually, but it is only because I want you to improve!"
Well...to hell with ya! If you want her to improve - WRITE SOMETHING SMART! Not some stupid things you THINK. If you tell her "do not copy paste".... Well, she isn't doing it already, so where she should improve?
Or "I don't like the hairstyle". Alrighty! But HOW IT WILL HELP HER IMPROVE? It's her freakin' style! You don't like it, your problem!
Now good day sir, wrote mi something rude, like: "There is no such thing as "defending your work," only attacking mine. If you're not mature enough for negative feedback, then don't ask for a criticism."
WOAH! THIS IS EXTREMALY STUPID.
I just can't belive!
You've wrote crappy critique and you won't even let her defend her work?
That's why there's comment section under the critique!
And she's attacking YOUR work? Dude, she was DEFENDING herself! And your workd is ONLY short, no substantive and stupid critique. "Work". Yeah.
Belive me, she's more mature than you.
Have a good day, sir!
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themusicman314159 In reply to Samira-Eos [2013-08-23 15:29:40 +0000 UTC]
I'm working on getting better at critiquing BY critiquing. I was trying to think every last bit through and I was trying to help her get better by letting her know my opinion. I'm trying my best to improve.
And my guess is that you've never attempted to study story writing, because if you have, you'd know that in good stories, BOTH the antagonist and protagonist see themselves as doing the "right thing." In a good story, "the strong defending the weak" is just a bunch of crap that the main stream shoves down our throats. Really, its just one character attacking another. No right or wrong. Just people being stupid together.
And if you knew that, you would see that your rant is just you gunning for my throat. So let me address it:
Yeah I got pissed off for her not taking my criticism. I try my best to when I do criticize, and it hurts like hell when someone says "no." I'm fine with that now.
And the copy/past argument was legitimate:
1) With digital media on the rise, you can never be sure WHAT is the artist's original work or if they just threw something together. Whether it be some art pieces they did a while back or something they found on the internet, it's the same for me.
2) If you analysed the piece, you would see a white border around each of the ponies. That seemed fishy to me and led to the comment.
Yes, I have seen several anthro ponies nude/naked, so you DON'T need to show me "oversexed." I put that comment because of all the added frilly-ness to the piece, when the original style Lauren Faust started was naked/nude. And with the background, I couldn't gander any context in which these characters were put in.
The low rating is meant to say, "Something's not right here, you need to address it." Yes, my critique may not have raised the right areas that need improvement, but at least I tried. Besides, I'm not some sissy art teacher that's going to say, "Oh, your work is good. Keep trying." NO. If I think something is not good, I'll tell it honestly.
Now before I waist any of more of my time, how about YOU write a critique? It's fun when someone shoots it down. Plus, being an art student, you're probably a hundred more times qualified to do so than just some jerk hobbyist who does art for fun.
Go ahead. I'm waiting.
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Samira-Eos In reply to themusicman314159 [2013-08-25 13:11:30 +0000 UTC]
I won't write a critique, 'cos it's not an art. No. Sorry.
And I'm not "shooting" at your SKILL. I'm just saying, that your critique is.... well... How dod you say that? "Yes, my critique may not have raised the right areas that need improvement, but at least I tried."
That means that your critique is useless. She can't improve with that. So, she can DEFEND herself and say "no" to your "piece of art"...
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themusicman314159 In reply to Samira-Eos [2013-08-25 16:02:20 +0000 UTC]
Write a critique. Help an artist. That's my philosophy. What's your's? Pick fights that you have no business in picking? And online of all places.
Until you can look me in the eye and say what you said to me, you're just another coward on dA.
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Samira-Eos In reply to themusicman314159 [2013-08-25 18:37:23 +0000 UTC]
Mage is my friend. And I wouldn't mind if someone write bullshit to me, but if you insult me, I'm gonna kick you in the face. Or something.
I'm trying to help, writing comments that have ANY SENSE. 'Cos your critique don't have any. Critique like this are just mean and won't help anyone. Just get it already, aye.
And one more thing, baby: You are asking me to write a critique, 'cos I was SO BAD PERSON to insult your ... "CRITIQUE"... Ok, so, going with this - draw a nice pony. Why are you INSTULTING someone if you can't draw a nice pony?
You know what I mean?
I don't have to write critiques to see if you are writin something good and helpful or mean bullshit.
You don't have to draw to see flaws.
Just take a lesson - If you REALLY WANT to help someone, write something helpful. Not allegations out of no-where which aren't true, 'cos NOBODY can fix something that doesn't exist.
And you can't only give low ranks, write some lies and then get angry 'cos someone feel bad abourt it and say "no" to you. You were ANGRY 'cos someone wanted to DEFEND work from your LIES.
And calling me 'coward' won't change the fact that critiques like this aren't helpful but shitty.
Good day, sir, aye.
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Samira-Eos In reply to Samira-Eos [2013-08-23 06:31:55 +0000 UTC]
And - Mage is the nice one here and she don't want to be rude.
But I'm a very, very mean thiefling.
And I regret nothing!
Angain, have a good day, sir.
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MaGeXP In reply to themusicman314159 [2013-08-22 10:49:17 +0000 UTC]
Well, thank you for your critique. I'm glad you wasted your time on my work.
But I have to defend myself over your slightly irrational arguments.
Background is "non existing", because it's only template, which can't, in definition overpower the desigs. By the way, I created it myself.
I don't know what you mean by make up, because there is none. They have just slightly closed eyes. There is many shapes of eyes in oryginal mlp series. Just look closely. The same thing apply to the shape of legs.
Btw, you probably noticed that my style of drawing is much differend than oryginal MLP's. Body proporcion are differend, style of hair is different... so what's the point?
But the most wounding thing is that you assume, that I copypasted my other linearts to create this ones. Sorry, but it is total bullshit. I draw every lineart traditionally first with pencil, next with pens. One pony takes me around 2 hours. And then there is colouring, which takes approximately the same. Pay more attection to details? what?
So no, I'm not going to rate your criticque fair.
Because it isn't.
It's nice you spend your time commenting on people works but this what you leave behind is not constructive critique. It's just hate.
I don't know what you wanted to archive with this kind of commentary. Maybe you are just looking for attention. The last sentece would confirm my assumtions.
But well, I'm not trully interested.
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themusicman314159 In reply to MaGeXP [2013-08-22 15:37:21 +0000 UTC]
There is no such thing as "defending your work," only attacking mine. If you're not mature enough for negative feedback, then don't ask for a criticism.
Now go ahead. Ban me. You'd be like every other artist I've given a critique on.
And you know what's really killing me right now?
"So no, I'm not going to rate your critique AS fair.
Because it isn't"
You don't even want to know what profanity and cursing I want to type right now, but because I'm a gentleman, I will not.
Thanks for shooting me through the my heart.
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MaGeXP In reply to themusicman314159 [2013-08-22 16:20:56 +0000 UTC]
Exuse me? Where exactly I attacked something yours? Alright, I've got carried away telling you "leave only hate". I regret that. I was refering only to this one critique.
And you want me to belive, that all what you said was to create constructive critique? You said, speaking briefly, that I'm lazy, unoriginal and messy artist. You offended not my one artwork, but my all style and philosophy.
And no, I don't want to know what do you want to shout at me. I can only tell you, that even than your words were very painful and unfair to me, I have any profanities for you. Or curses. I'm not going to ban you because of one critique. Please stop flooding me in your disappointment with human beings.
And sorry for grammatical errors. English is not my language.
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themusicman314159 In reply to MaGeXP [2013-08-22 22:52:02 +0000 UTC]
Alright, since we got the anger out of the way, I'll just say this:
In order to have an excellent art piece (in my opinion) you need to find out what everyone is expecting AND THEN do the unexpected. This is extremely hard to do and takes lots of analysis of other art pieces (esp. popular art pieces) and being in constant connection with a culture (or just watching the News) before you can get good at it.
Another big problem with this piece was that there was a poor attempt at shading and trying to make this piece have perspective (also known as depth). It takes real talent and time developing that talent before you can make a piece that feels like you can step right into it.
Plus, the background, insignificant details, and consistency in style throughout the art piece can also be the difference between a high and low rating.
Last thing: A low rating does not mean I think your lazy. It means I think you need to improve. That's it.
I am really doing my best to help you improve here. I really am. But if you're going to shoot me down because of how you "feel," then don't ask to be criticized in the first place.
Oh, and by declining my criticism, you attacked it. I take pride in my critiques, and having someone say 'no" to it hurts.
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Cold--Burn [2015-02-05 02:58:37 +0000 UTC]
your going to give me a a cavity with all this eye candy >.> and i am afraid to know what my Eye cavity looks like but they are wonderful done and they pop out well with each of their own wonderful expressions that make them all the more attractive. another good showing ^_^
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KuranaPony [2015-01-05 17:50:01 +0000 UTC]
lolipop for 8 points :s
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Vitannyy [2013-12-07 16:26:10 +0000 UTC]
which one is still open? or they are all already closed?
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ShoootingStars [2013-10-01 06:09:14 +0000 UTC]
I love meringue trade?
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Wandering-Heartbeat [2013-09-04 15:38:13 +0000 UTC]
beautiful loli, wish I could get her
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EmoRaverGirl [2013-09-02 20:58:44 +0000 UTC]
WOW! You just earned a new watcher! Your ponies are amazing!!! I would of never thought of these! FANTASTIC WORK!! KEEP IT UP!!!
Once i get enough points i am definitely going to auction for them
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Ambarloo [2013-08-31 03:46:53 +0000 UTC]
Whoops, I think the seventh rule has a mistake in it.
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MaGeXP In reply to Ambarloo [2013-08-31 09:59:34 +0000 UTC]
ah, yes, wrong word. Thank you xD
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Queen-Sombrea [2013-08-28 12:34:05 +0000 UTC]
I luv lollipop ;w;
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Aredhel-Telrunya [2013-08-22 07:47:54 +0000 UTC]
OMG NUUUUUU!!!
I SOO want Meringue, but I don't have nearly enough points!
I SO SAD DX
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Rosachi [2013-08-21 13:44:36 +0000 UTC]
I really want Lollipop but I can't afford her.
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Rosachi In reply to MaGeXP [2013-08-21 22:18:24 +0000 UTC]
No problem.
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