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"The german language is so aggressive"
"Why does everything in german sound so angry?"
"Tell someone you love them today, cause life is short. But shout it to them in GERMAN, because life is also terrifying"
"Why do germans always scream that much?"
"German sounds so harsh and hard"

I heard of those on the net a lot of time, but I was quite shocked, when I was confronted with this even here in Japan.
Both japanese and foreigners of other countries say that german sounds very brutal, aggressive and loud. I actually frown a lot when I hear that.

Some facts:
It is true, that german belongs to the more harsh sounding languages.
German has (usually, bavarian is a big exception as well as some other dialects in part) a very clear pronouncation in comparison to more "flowing" languages like french or italian.
German is also very fond of consonants, resulting in often putting three consonants at the beginning and end of the word before even the first vocal appears.
And we also tend to "Auslautverhärtung", being that the last consonant is ALWAYS a harsh one. A d becomes a t and a b becomes a p. A lot of german words work like that, making especially the ending of words often sound a bit more harsh.

BUT
Russian is a lot more extreme in the usage of consonants. I actually heard once of a village with the name KRCHZP or something. It had not even one vocal in it and I had tried for weeks to say that name.
Dutch, danish and english are very closely related to the german language (to the point where mothertongues can partly understand people of the other languages without any knowledge of the words), resulting in them also sounding quite harsh in comparison to flowing languages, even though they have some different aspects like english with the soft th-sound and dutch with it's soft sounding ch-sounds.
Languages like japanese have a lot of vocals, but they use soft and hard consonants in the same ammount, resulting in harsh words like Seppuku and soft words like Tadaima.
And Latin, even though it is dead, is a very hard pronounced language.

But still, german is supposed to be one of the most harsh languages.
Maybe because most people know german from videos of politician speeches (or, even worse, Hitler speeches, because he constantly screamed). Or because the internationally famous music bands of germany are mainly metal or something like Rammstein and Tokyo Hotel.
Or - what reminded me of - because of the punctuation. German doesn't have a fixed order for subject, object and verb (the verb can stand at first, second or last place, even at second and last place at the same time) and subject and object are sometimes hard to differ between. We also use things like pre- and postpositions, meaning that we add little words to the verb or noun to give it a new meaning. Often resulting in ambigius sentences that can only be clearly defined by the punctuation in speech.
"Das Auto wird das Hindernis umfahren" can mean "The car will evade the obstacle" or "The car will ride over the obstacle". The only way for a german to differ this is by listening. Because if the speaker says UMfahren (making um a little to a lot louder), then it will be riding over. By keeping it the same, it will be evading. And since many sentences work like that, german has some kind of melody in how loud or soft things are said.
Other languages usually only use a pattern like this when being angry (WHY did you BAStard DO this to me?!), and since germans also do it when angry (maybe even more, since we still need to respect our speaking pattern), it might lead to the "Germans always sound so angry".

Anyway, I had to laugh and cry when I found the clip of a Scrubs-actress "speaking" german:
CLICK ME
She literally (and for no obvious reason) screams and over-pronounces the words sentences "Hot chocolate milk with whipped cream for breakfast" and "I love you", making it sound ridicoulus for germans, but probably normal to most other people, "because german sounds so aggressive".

Some more facts 1:
That actress actually says a totally weird sentence in the middle where she claims afterwards to say something like "I like the wave of your hair".
She actully says "I love your big, wonderful wave with a big red hair xxxxx"
With two extra jokes.
One is that the "with a" has the wrong conjugation, making it sound weird anyway.
And that "kunne" or what she says at the end is definitly anything but german :'D
Maybe she wanted to say "Kopf" (head) or "Körper" (body) or Konter (counter attack), but kunne is a wonderful example of made up words that are supposed to sound german xD

Some more facts 2:
When some of the japanese or foreign people here asked me to speak german, they were actually highly confused, because - despite having a loud voice - I speak quite soft due to my dutch and english influence. I also try to speak quietly in public.
So they were probably like "that can't be german, it sounds too nice" :'D
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Avipopoki [2016-04-05 19:45:03 +0000 UTC]

//cries
this is why I love speaking German tbh

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Yoshisa [2015-05-15 18:22:36 +0000 UTC]

I love it that America is saying "I'm called a chocolate milkshake with whipped cream for breakfast!" in his best German stereotype of Germans being scary. Kudos of making humor to yourself.

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ladyblackbird13 [2015-05-15 11:31:45 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, no one would think I'm German either. I look like I'm from East Europe and I speak accent-free English (due to my british father). *sigh*

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Marqania [2014-11-22 07:05:58 +0000 UTC]

"And that "kunne" or what she says at the end is definitly anything but german :'D
Maybe she wanted to say "Kopf" (head) or "Körper" (body) or Konter (counter attack), but kunne is a wonderful example of made up words that are supposed to sound german xD"

Maybe she was saying the name Conan?

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MangaEngel In reply to Marqania [2014-11-22 10:38:16 +0000 UTC]

I like your beautiful red hair conan?

Uuuuuuuum

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Marqania In reply to MangaEngel [2014-11-22 13:41:05 +0000 UTC]

The host's name is Conan O'Brien.  Late night chat show.

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MangaEngel In reply to Marqania [2014-11-22 15:05:34 +0000 UTC]

Hm, might be.
Still, that she even says a obviously english name with "german pronounciation" is weird.

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Marqania In reply to MangaEngel [2014-11-22 20:24:55 +0000 UTC]

Eh, video's still fun.

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Poptart-GGZ97 [2014-11-15 15:53:58 +0000 UTC]

Mostly Germans don't smile, not because they are serious or something like that, because they either had a tough time during their past, are in hurry, lost in thoughts, etc. ... In my case...

many family members died (godmother, my religion teacher I had at 4th grade, grandpa, grandma fell downstairs and ended up in hospital died after 2-3 years of struggling (2012), uncle (2013), another aunt (2014) ) ... it's hard to get over all these people's deaths when your godmother died when you were only 2... I'm a very cheery person, but I can't smile always... people can't expect other people to smile like nothing happened.

So never judge someone only by a straight face... you don't know the person.


When I'm in a bus (you know getting to school or coming back from school) I stare blankly out of the window and watching the houses pass by and everything else, ignoring the fact that everyone else got a friend to talk with during the bus ride to school (or from school) except for me. Eventually someone sits down next to me, only cuz he/she wants to sit, I ignore that fact and keep staring blankly out of the window till the bus arrives school, I head to my class, talk with a few class mate, my only friend is sick and couldn't come to school, I sit silently in class and after some lessons school's finally over and the bus cenario happens again, but this time I see a grandma with another younger woman, talking happily, I only glanced over for a few secs, then stare out of the window again and can't help but think about my dead grandma, causing a tear silently running down my cheek... but no one notice... because pain is silent... pain is unseen for the ones who aren't able to see through someone's eyes to see into the other's soul... ;/

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SkyStarLink [2014-11-14 16:04:25 +0000 UTC]

I also thought German was a harsh language. After 2 years of studying, I don't think that anymore! I prefer this language over French, in fact!

Here (in Spain), we all think that xd. I remember when my friends said "say something in german" I was just like "like what? Say some word and if I know it, I translate it". So after some words, one of my friends said "and does subenestrujenbajen mean something?" I laughed lots. That thing comes from typical Spanish when you say "How do you say xxx in xxx language?" Usually it's with Japanese, but I knew this that, if I remember well, was bus in German (literally is the way in Spanish to say "go up" "wring" "go down" in the third person plural in present, but said all together gave the impression of being a foreign word, for me it now sounds to Dutch/Flemish more than German)

The thing you said about "umfahren" made me remember when my German teacher asked me "where is the strong syllable in the trennenbaren Verben (I'm not sure if it's said like that, just in case it's those verbs that you can separate like "aufstehen", that you say "Ich stehe auf")?" and I had no clue. He explained that it goes in the first (like you say with "umfahren")

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MangaEngel In reply to SkyStarLink [2014-11-14 19:54:17 +0000 UTC]

Well, the "say xxx in xxx language" is a very common thing in most cultures, I think. Whenever people hear that I can speak japanese and dutch, people here ask me to say "something", too. Nothing unusual, really, just the curiosity (and often an attempt to announce something as weird to feel better about the own abilities).

Also, trennbaren Verben. From trenn-bar (trennen = to seperate, -bar = being able to).
And only the meaning "to ride around a tree/sign" can be seperated, not the other one.
"Ich bin um den Baum gefahren" = "I rode around the tree"
But "Ich hab den Baum umgefahren" is the only direct way to say "I ran the tree over". They are two entirely different words that just happen to have the same literate appearing ^^

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SkyStarLink In reply to MangaEngel [2014-11-15 11:03:16 +0000 UTC]

Jaja good to know it lol! I thought it was just Spanish...

Maybe that's why he explained that, to distinguish a verb that can be separated from one that's written the same but that can't be separated. And that's only noticed by pronounciation, as you said.

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tabbi1994 [2014-10-25 13:15:50 +0000 UTC]

God, I love the german laguage.
Where I come from (Steinhagen, close to Bielfeld) we call tadpoles (Kaulquappen) 'Pillepoppen'. It's actual Bielefelder slang.
When i met some students from Gütersloh and we went to a botanical garden there was a pond full of tadpoles. I was all like. "Oh look, all the 'Pillepoppen'!" And they were like: "What do you mean??" And I just said. "Na, the tadpoles!"

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IffyComet [2014-08-29 03:23:51 +0000 UTC]

"kunne" is a word in danish... it means... (how can I explain)...
danish: kunne du tænke dig et glas mælk? = english: Would you like a glass of milk?
or danish: kunne du se stjernerne i aftes? = english: could you see the stars last night? 
(sorry if anybody already have told you this )

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MangaEngel In reply to IffyComet [2014-08-29 05:21:06 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know

...............But it still doesn't make sense xD
And how the heck did she learn ONE word of danish from her german grandmother? (sure, both german and danish are germanic languages, but at least THAT word just doesn't excist in german :'D)

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IffyComet In reply to MangaEngel [2014-08-29 12:22:51 +0000 UTC]

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MangaEngel In reply to IffyComet [2014-08-29 15:01:35 +0000 UTC]

Well, it does SOUND german, yeah.
It sounds germanic (and, since it seems to be danish, that makes sense), but there is absolutely no way that that word is german :'D
The closest german word to "kunne" is "künne". It means something like kin, tribe, clan. But the last time that word was used around 1350.
AND it makes no sense in the context anyway.

So yeah xD

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IffyComet In reply to MangaEngel [2014-08-29 15:37:05 +0000 UTC]

Her grandmother must be really really old then 

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MangaEngel In reply to IffyComet [2014-08-29 18:14:57 +0000 UTC]

Maybe.
But danish, not german :'D

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IffyComet In reply to MangaEngel [2014-08-29 20:40:03 +0000 UTC]

You think her grandmother is danish?...  

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MangaEngel In reply to IffyComet [2014-08-29 20:58:08 +0000 UTC]

I think nothing.
Another user said that "kunne" is a common word in danish. It still makes no sense in the context.
That and the other words are german (though her grammar is at some points downright horrific xD)

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IffyComet In reply to MangaEngel [2014-08-31 15:42:10 +0000 UTC]

No, it doesn´t make sense... I know close to nothing about german grammar, but she is clearly exaggerating the pronunciation of the words...
(the worse thing is, that the host look like he believe her)

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O-Idillya [2014-04-29 17:20:16 +0000 UTC]

German sounds harsh and brutal?Who says that??
Nonsense! German language is awesome! It's the language of Goethe and Franz Kafka

P.S: Can't speak the language but i want to learn it so bad

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BluejayBlaze [2014-04-14 18:40:15 +0000 UTC]

I always thought German sounded funny, not scary. And the only times I've ever heard Germans yelling were in war movies, or when my great uncle wanted people to hurry up or stop snowboarding in his garden. I've also found that when I speak languages other than English, they each taste different. German tastes like spiced sausages while French tastes like bubbly milk.

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AvaSoyookaze [2014-02-26 21:04:07 +0000 UTC]

LOL I never thought of German as an agressiv language
and people keep teling me it's weird
but i actually enjoy speaking german XD

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menapia [2014-01-20 00:16:14 +0000 UTC]

ah its not that harsh a language try Irish, one of the best things about having done German in school is that you can read Schiller and Gunter Grass my two favourite authors, reading the Gerhard Self detective books now.

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MangaEngel In reply to menapia [2014-01-20 08:03:04 +0000 UTC]

Schiller, one of THE authors when you want to experiment on ridiculously long sentences xD
Hah, I love him...

Anyway, yeah, there are harsher or at least equally harsh languages, but somehow, German got that weird "OMG, german is so loud and harsh"

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JWArtwork [2014-01-12 13:18:39 +0000 UTC]

Dutch influence, you say?

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MangaEngel In reply to JWArtwork [2014-01-12 23:35:33 +0000 UTC]

Happens when your parents have different nationalities

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JWArtwork In reply to MangaEngel [2014-01-13 12:53:39 +0000 UTC]

Oh so you are in part Dutch? Do you speak Dutch as well?

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MangaEngel In reply to JWArtwork [2014-01-13 13:36:28 +0000 UTC]

I am part belgian, but from the flamse part, so yeah, I speak dutch
Not very well (I only lived for five years in Belgium as a child), but I think, considering the short time and that I never had went to a school with that language, I can understand and read it very well and (despite my german accent) I can speak it.

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JWArtwork In reply to MangaEngel [2014-01-15 15:15:55 +0000 UTC]

Aha, dat is interessant. ^^ Dus je zou me nu kunnen verstaan?

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MangaEngel In reply to JWArtwork [2014-01-15 18:34:23 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but - like I said - I never went to school, so I can't write back xD
At least not in a way that you would be able to understand :'D

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PallasAthenaSuomi [2014-01-11 20:14:08 +0000 UTC]

Diese Vorurteile sind nicht sehr überraschend, wenn man bedenkt, dass "Jawohl, mein Führer!", "Scheiße!" und "Rein da!" zu den bekanntesten deutschen Worten gehören... Danke, dass du für für's Deutsche eine Lanze gebrochen hast, das war einfach mal fällig. : )

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MangaEngel In reply to PallasAthenaSuomi [2014-01-12 01:08:59 +0000 UTC]

Öhm, gern geschehen xD

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Arminius1871 [2014-01-11 17:10:04 +0000 UTC]

Ja das Vorurteil wurde durch amerikanische Kriegsfilme in der Welt verbreitet, vor den Weltkriegen hat das niemand auf der Welt behauptet.
Deutsch klingt aber nicht so schlimm, ich finde es eigentlich sogar weitaus schöner, als zum Beispiel Englisch,
weil Deutsch im Gegensatz zum undeutlichen, verwaschenen Englisch, sehr stark, rein und klar klingt, richtig germanisch eben^^
Und Deutsch kann durchaus sehr sanft sein, man höre nur Ave Maria von Helene Fischer (selbst wenn man kein Schlagerfan ist XD).

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TigerRose1329 [2013-12-08 20:41:05 +0000 UTC]

Mmmm, heiße Schokolade mi Schlagsahne...Lecker!!

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Ecclytennysmithylove [2013-06-19 00:59:24 +0000 UTC]

Ach, fur the liebe of... *calls his coworker Asuka Langley Soryu* ASUKA!

*steps in and gives Alfred a punch in a face, knocking him down* Gott verdammt! You don't have to be so loud!!!

*unconscious* Yeeeaahhsssss, muuaaaaaammm......

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MangaEngel In reply to Ecclytennysmithylove [2013-06-19 03:54:28 +0000 UTC]

Lol, I always forget that Asuka is supposed to be german (her german is horrible, but whatever) xD

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Ecclytennysmithylove In reply to MangaEngel [2013-06-19 17:28:15 +0000 UTC]

There are surprisingly many other German (and half-German) anime girls I can list!

Erica Hartmann (Strike Witches)
Gertrud Barkhorn (same as Erica)
Leni Milchstrasse (Sakura Taisen)
Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke (same as Erica and Gertrud)
Souma Momiji (Fruits Basket)
Ursula Hartmann (same as Erica, Gertrud, and Minna)
Christiane Friedrich (Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!!)
Eva Heinemann (Monster)
Hanna-Justina Marseille (same as Erica, Gertrud, Minna, and Ursula)
Illyasviel von Einzbern (Fate/Stay Night)
Schrodinger Jun`i (Hellsing)

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CraftyCat14 In reply to Ecclytennysmithylove [2014-01-11 23:20:25 +0000 UTC]

*sees the last one (Hellsing)*

My friend made me watch part of one of the episodes for that...*shivers*

But the guy who's the leader (don't remember his name) has a very forced-sounding accent.

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Ecclytennysmithylove In reply to CraftyCat14 [2014-01-12 00:30:26 +0000 UTC]

You mean the Major?


And yes, he does have very forced-sounding accent, especially in the Abridged version! XD


"Some of you have come to believe zhat I like var. I vish to dash zhese rumors. I do not like var. I. LOVE. Var".


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MangaEngel In reply to Ecclytennysmithylove [2013-06-19 21:18:24 +0000 UTC]

It's actually not that surprising.
While being here in Japan, I noticed that there are two countries that japanese really love: Germany and USA.
They are nuts over them, despite knowin close to nothing about them.
I mean, I am one of the language assistance teachers for the university Niigata in german language and there are so many students, trying to learn german o.o

I even once made a joke, saying that every half-japanese in a manga is half-american or half-german. Nobody laughed, because they thought, I was serious and they all agreed.

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Ecclytennysmithylove In reply to MangaEngel [2013-06-20 00:00:26 +0000 UTC]

I see!

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TheDreamClubMurderer [2013-06-17 15:45:32 +0000 UTC]

Hm. Ich höre mir Xavier Naidoos Musik an und habe keine Ahnung, was die alle meinen...
Mit Deutsch kann man auch echt sanft umgehen. Aber dann bedient es natürlich kein Klischee mehr.
Obwohl da schon auch was dran ist und ich es manchmal ein klein wenig ausnutze, um nicht-deutschsprachige Menschen zu Tode zu erschrecken. ;D

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MangaEngel In reply to TheDreamClubMurderer [2013-06-17 21:42:22 +0000 UTC]

Ja, geht mir ähnlich.
Ich höre sehr gerne Rammstein, Subway to Sally und Ähnliches und kann verstehen, wenn Leute wegen solcher Musik zu den falschen Schlüssen kommen.
Aber wenn man etwas schaut, findet man schnell sehr sanfte Musik.
Xavier Naidoo, Söhne Mannheims, "Liebeslied" von Knorkator.
Sogar Unheilig mit der eher rauen Stimme hat sehr ruhige und schöne Musik, wo keiner ernsthaft sagen könnte, dass sie aggressiv wäre.

Und nee, ich schocke Leute eigentlich nur mit meiner Un-Deutschheit xD
Ich trinke keinen Alkohol, schaue kein Fußball, bla bla bla.
Ausser meiner Liebe für Kartoffeln bin ich sehr untypisch, was viele vor allem hier in Japan sehr irritiert xD

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TheDreamClubMurderer In reply to MangaEngel [2013-07-24 17:54:58 +0000 UTC]

Obwohl man bei sowohl Rammstein als auch Subway To Sally sagen muss, dass beide fantastisch mit Worten umgehen können. Auf Deutsch können Lieder irgendwie schnell dämlich klingen und die haben das raus. Like A Goethe oder so. ^^
Bei Rammstein ist das "Klischee deutsche" ja gewollt... den Amis gefällt's. ;D
Es gibt extrem viel sanfte deutsche Musik. (!) Stimmt, Unheilig ist für mich auch eher Balsam als irgendwie aggressiv. Oder Peter Heppner. Oder Philip Poisel. Da gibt es echt viel. Aber das kennt natürlich keiner.

Ach ja, die Japaner. Die fahren ja eh auf solche Sachen ab. So Stereotypen und so... zu mir haben so ein paar Touris mal gesagt, dass ich zwar die "typische Statur einer deutschen Frau" hätte (ich bin 1,74 m und habe Bauarbeiter-Schultern und eher Pranken als Hände xD), aber "der Rest nicht passe" -> nicht blond und blauäugig. xD (War auch noch im Sommer, wo ich eh immer aussehe wie ein Zigeuner, weil ich so braun werde.) Gott, was hab ich gelacht.
Haben die echt erwartet, dass du bloß Bier trinkst und den ganzen Tag Fußball schaust? Und deine Liegestühle mit nem Handtuch reservierst? :'D
Was frage ich, natürlich erwarten die Leute das. Naja, bei mir stimmt viel, ich liebe Bier und Fußball. Und Sauerkraut.
Yay, Kartoffeln. <3 Liebe ich auch.
Aber wenigstens bist du schonmal hellhaarig und blauäugig. ;D

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MangaEngel In reply to TheDreamClubMurderer [2013-07-25 07:17:54 +0000 UTC]

Naja, äußerlich erraten sie immer sehr schnell, woher ich bin (denn in ihrem Kopf sind Amerikaner und Deutsche offenbar die einzigen mit der blond-blau-Kombi xD
Aber wann immer diese irritiert oder enttäuscht sind, dass ich so untypisch bin, stachel ich zurück und frage diese, wie oft sie Sake trinken, ob sie morgen im Kimono zur Uni gehen werden und ob alle schonmal Sumo live gesehen haben. Da lachen sie dann meist und akzeptieren meine "enttäuschende Undeutschheit"

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TheDreamClubMurderer In reply to MangaEngel [2013-08-01 10:23:36 +0000 UTC]

Amerikaner? Wieso Amerikaner?
Dann ja wohl eher Skandinavier.

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MangaEngel In reply to TheDreamClubMurderer [2013-08-02 00:38:21 +0000 UTC]

Witzigerweise haben die meisten Japaner nicht die geringste Ahnung über Länder ausserhalb Asiens.
Amerika ist ausschließlich USA (sie wissen, es gibt andere Länder da, können aber nichtmal eines davon nennen).
Europa besteht so ziemlich nur aus Frankreich, Italien, Spanien, England und Deutschland.
Dabei hat Frankreich braune Haare, Italien und Spanien gehen Richtung schwarz, England ist mal braun, mal blong, mal rot und Deutschland sind die Blonden mit den blauen Augen.
Ich mein, Japaner gehen bei einem Uni-Austausch immer nach China, Korea, in die USA, nach Kanada (was für viele TEIL von USA ist), nach Australien oder nach Deutschland, England oder Frankreich. Vermutlich, weil das auch so ziemlich die einzigen Länder sind, wo sie mehr oder minder ne Ahnung haben, was sie erwartet.

Ich mein, als ich erwähnte, ich bin halb Belgisch, haben sie gedacht, ich wäre von Polen. Als ich meinte, Polen wäre auf der anderen Seite von Deutschland, dachten sie, es wäre links von Russland.
Deshalb, Japaner haben so kaum Ahnung von Europa, Amerika und schon gar nicht Afrika. Und die Stereotypen dort sind extrem festgefahren (ich trinke kein Bier, wann immer die davon erfahren, bricht offenbar ein Weltbild zusammen :'D).
Deshalb, wenn du Finnin wärst und hierher kommen würdest, die Chancen wären gut, dass die Japaner erstmal nicht wüssten, wo Finnland überhaupt ist. Oder das es überhaupt Teil von Europa ist.

Denn Anime schauen hier letztlich nur sehr wenige, insofern hilft Hetalia nur begrenzt dabei, den Japanern ein paar Länder näherzubringen, die sie so noch nicht kennen.

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