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Green Division Round Two!First-Round winner Sabrina Linder from the USA takes on fellow qualifier Athena Avedlas from Greece! Who will be advancing to the Green Division Semifinals!? Discuss the battle below, and vote in the poll here:
www.strawpoll.me/13004571
Remember, the comments below count as one of the deciding factors! The more analytical and thought-out the comment, the more weight they get. Just saying "I want X to win!" won't count for much, you gotta back it up, so be sure to read up on our competitors:
Sabrina's Fight Card
Athena's Fight Card
The match closes in one week! (May 27, 2017) Look for the results then!
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This one is fairly simple. Sabrina needs to keep Athena upright, Athena wants to get Sabrina on the mats. Sabrina has the reach, and possibly the in ring experience, but Athena is probably stronger, so it's about execution. Both girls will need to stay patient and pick their spots. Whoever makes the first mistake will most likely be the loser.
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My vote is for Athena in this one.
Sabrina might have had a chance if she was a good boxer, or an average boxer with a decent preparation in her secondary discipline, kickboxing. But, as pointed out by the other comments, her kickboxing record is 0-14 and even in boxing she is no more than average. Which means that she isn't properly prepared to counter the diversity of attacks that a pro-wrestler competent as Athena can use.
Sabrina can try to keep distance with punches, but her kicks aren't strong enough to help her, and if the fight goes to the ground - where Athena has an experience and a weight advantage - she's basically done.
I know Sabrina beat a wrestler in her first match, but if the description of that match is canon, then her victory was more luck than skill, unlikely to happen twice in a row.
I'm kinda sorry cause I like both these OCs, but I don't see how Sabrina can overcome her opponent this time.
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Okay, so here's the thing. Whether Sabrina's win vs. Kim Hart was her first win, or her third, or fifth, she still has an abysmal record. Truly, the only reason she's in this round is because her first-round opponent was Hart. Granted, I know I couldn't last against Sabrina, and I like her, and "Go Team USA" and all, but I just think Sabrina is outclassed here.
Athena by pinfall in the first round.
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Just wanted to point that out.
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Sabrina's first round match was against Midas Dorada.
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Oh, my bad lol. Well, my analysis still stands. Luck runs out eventually
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I'm giving this one to Athena... I'm sorry boxing fans but I agree with kite here....Being able to take a punch and being locked in a submission are two different things.
One
is a gift while the other is focused on arms, legs, neck. Even if she endures being in a leg lock but wasn't able to escape by the end of the first round Sabrina now has to fight standing up with a hurt leg.
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I´m a boxing fan, I like streetfighting, I´m not much of a wrestling fan. Too many wrestlers in this tournament for my taste. Does this influence the decision I will make? Nope. I go strictly by what I read and investigate.
There isn´t much to investigate though. On one side we have the goddess of wrestling, on the other side we have a cute boxer girl. A cute boxer girl with a record of 0-14. Impressive. In the more negative sense of the meaning.
So if Sabrina isn´t able to fight in her OWN style, what less can she do if confronted with a totally different style? Probably nothing.
I think this fight will be over pretty soon. I side Kite2014 ´s opinion at least in this fight of Athena vs Sabrina.
With the first of Sabrina´s misses Athena will be there and perform beautifully whatever she has in mind for Sabrina. And then it´s off to Walhalla for Sabrina. Uhem... Olymp, of course.
Like I said before, I like boxers more, and I would like to see Sabrina proceed to the next round. If she was a fighter of class, a force, then she would have a chance against Athena, but she isn´t all this, so I must - fair is fair - give this to Athena.
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1 - 14 now. She made it to the second round. Big first win being that it was in the O.C.W.T.!!!!! I agree, Athena will have her hands full with a more confident Sabrina. Eventually she will wear her down and get the victory. Athena for the win.
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Oh, correct! I forgot about the first round win!
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Sabrina is a boxer, and her 0-14 record is for kickboxing. I do not know what her boxing record is, but she has won before.
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Oops... So I will research again...
Okay, I went through the whole gallery and found three victories, one of them vs an alien, two victories in written text. The rest of the pictures showing an ending were losses. And there were many. So I must keep my decision, but thank you for clarification.
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Yeah the 0-14 record was mainly just promotion for the bout with Kim, SAbrina wins every now and again. The trouble with her is, I haven't written much canon for her in years, all of the commission pics I get done aren't really canon in the world I had created for her
I actually had planned for her to be a competent boxer in my canon, just haven't gotten around/found the motivation to do it yet >.<
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Yi bai buru yi qian, the Chinese would say. Meaning, a picture says more than a thousand words. Not word by word translation, just the meaning.
Honestly, I would have loved to see Sabrina advance, and it is not impossible, depending on other artists to cast their votes and comments.
As I have learned from mayydayy the 0-14 record is based on kickboxing, not boxing.
When I went through your gallery I saw loss after loss, knockout defeat after knockout defeat.
So how should we decide any other than add another loss to that record?
There is no base to justify a victory. And yes, these pictures have been done years ago.
I am really, really sorry. You may have read that I would love to see the boxer advance,
but in this case in all fairness I have no other choice.
I saw you wrote a nice story for Sabrina, two chapters so far. I liked the story. Too bad
that there is no continuation yet. Perhaps you should do that first, write the next chapter.
You have style in writing, and skill, I loved to read that. This story can become a base
for Sabrina that makes victories, however only in the future in a next tournament, I´m afraid.
The story of Sabrina and Roland and that Spider woman is SO good, that I even thought
of illustrating it. But that would be a future project.
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I'm going with Sabrina on this one, due to the transitive property XD
My reasoning behind Sabrina's win here, is similar reasoning to why I felt sabrina would win vs Midas in the last round.
Both Midas and Athena are pro wrestlers, and Athena has significantly lower weight/height than Midas (normally I try not to include height/reach and all that in analysis, but in this case, it's apples to apples, both fighters in a sport where more weight/height/reach is an advantage).
Sabrina beat Midas. Midas has better attributes than Athena while fighting the same sport. Thus by the transitive property, I feel that Sabrina would beat Athena with that whole 'war of attrition' explanation I gave in the Sabrana/Midas match.
I'm sure there might be parts of Athena's bio and abilities I might be missing, so I encourage the owner of her to try and change my mind. I also encourage the owner of Sabrina to further strengthen me siding with her, if there's more to add.
Either way, good luck to both.
(also, first comment =3 )
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I mean the main problem is since for Sabrina it is technically unknown what her reach is, the main thing is there is a huge difference between being able to take a punch and being slammed around and choked out. My favorite example to give to someone is as always is Randy Couture vs James Toney. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd… though MMA it still applies the difference of being able to taking hits then being slammed down and then eventually forced to submit.
James Toney is a boxer who fought in 92 matches, won 77 of them, 47 by knockout, and when he did lose he was never KOed. But what takes him down in the first round in his first fight when submissions and takedowns are allowed? A single leg takedown, some ground and pound, and an arm-triangle choke. Being able to take a hit is one thing, but being caught in something that your skills don't have you prepared for to fight back against is different. Its great to be able to endure damage, but when its, "I have you lifted off of the ground then slammed and you can't get a good shot on me with your fists because you are on the ground and I am on top of you." you can endure but unless you know how to fight it off, you are stuck there.
Oh and this is also my reasoning as to why Athena will win. Because when it comes to Athena its, get in close, toss them around like a rag doll, then choose pinfall or submission. Athena has shown last round even against a boxer and having to get in close to get the job done against a faster opponent that has a better chance at dodging Athena when she was coming in, Athena was able to get her hands on her and get the finish.
I love this tournament because it gives us a chance to talk and contrast ^_^
edited in because I just realized to add this, you can have a strong jaw and be able to take a punch. Getting KOed with punches and kicks happen because you don't know whats' going to happen, submissions target the weak spots joints and things needed to breath. To not give up to a submission when you know you are not going to escape is dangerous which is why usually when a submission is applied it is common to see people tap out because they know they can't get out and rather then taking the damage from being in the hold they submit.
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