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ming85 In reply to hoshiko13 [2010-10-09 14:11:00 +0000 UTC]

LOL nice observation XD !

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The-Great-Pantheism2 In reply to hoshiko13 [2010-09-29 19:02:17 +0000 UTC]

Suki WAS put in the movie, and so was the Fortuneteller, and so was the Dragon-Spirit warning Aang about Sozin's Comet, and so was Katara losing her necklace and Aang getting it back from Zuko, and so was Sokka getting to know Suki, and so was Katara being personally trained by Pakku.

The following petition represents us wanting M. Night Shyamalan to give us his ORIGINAL 125-minute version of "The Last Airbender", which he filmed before Summer-2009....MUCH better than the version we ended up seeing in theaters. The Original version was praised by critics (published reviews) weeks/months before the movie was released.
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Sign now.

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onemore In reply to pitter-patter15 [2010-08-15 01:48:14 +0000 UTC]

They displayed no acting skill in this disaster of a movie, so your argument fails completely.

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pitter-patter15 In reply to onemore [2010-08-15 16:53:01 +0000 UTC]

I'm not denying your ability to have an opinon. I thought the movie was good and the acting was great. You can dislike it you want.

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codeman160 In reply to Batz108 [2010-06-02 01:38:02 +0000 UTC]

I dont care for the casting. i like all the actors equally and believe they will do a fine job. if you would do your research you would see how much mnight is sticking to the story unlike DBE did.

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onemore In reply to codeman160 [2010-07-26 07:41:33 +0000 UTC]

How does it feel to be proven completely wrong?

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Batz108 In reply to codeman160 [2010-06-02 05:04:11 +0000 UTC]

I did enough research to satisfy me. That's fine if the cast is cool to you. Whatever - I couldn't care less. MNS may be sticking to the STORYLINE, but he and the rest of Hollywood sure aren't sticking to the CHARACTERS. Why don't you go do your research on that?

P.S. I'm not sure if you meant to reply to ME or the above picture, but if you in fact did direct your little comment towards me, I don't care to hear it. Sorry if you take any of what I said offensively. Just my opinion.I just so happen to be entitled to one. Maybe you should look that up, too if you didn't know.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Batz108 [2010-06-08 17:20:40 +0000 UTC]

And also, appearances don't count, acting does.. They chose those who performed best during auditions, for both acting AND martial arts.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Batz108 [2010-06-08 17:19:38 +0000 UTC]

"MNS may be sticking to the STORYLINE, but he and the rest of Hollywood sure aren't sticking to the CHARACTERS"

And what exactly do you mean by that? The characters in the show weren't of any ethnicity from OUR world, let alone the fact that they live on a FANTASY world. It's perfectly fine to cast them of any ethnicity because of that. The only different types of people in the show were FN, WT, EK and AN people, that's it. No Asia, America, Africa, Antarctica, etc. They didn't have the continents from OUR world AT ALL on their world map. And the show never stated they were Asian. Yes, the cultures are Asian and Inuit BASED but culture does NOT equal ethnicity. You can't generalize people with cultures due to their ethnicities. That's just wrong!

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Jenu1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2010-07-03 18:03:15 +0000 UTC]

Who cares about ethinicity?! Here is a fact: Ozai, in the cartoon, is a menacing, evil overlord of all the fire nation. He retains his power and his respect by staying mostly hidden in the shadows, but never speaking more than he needs too, and holding all of the fire nation in an iron fist that worships and fears him. In the movie, he becomes nothing more than a puppeteer, and a freaking lame mindless one at that. He has WAY too many overdramatic speeches and absolutely no skill or power whatsoever.

That's what it means by staying true to the characters! Or rather...how NOT to do it!

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Jenu1 [2010-07-03 18:39:11 +0000 UTC]

Yes, there are these type of changes in the movie, but that's what an adaptation is all about. Whatever, I dont care much for the movie anymore anyways...

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Jenu1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2010-07-03 19:13:45 +0000 UTC]

No, an adaption is about moving a story into a different media. Yes it makes some changes, but it shouldn't all out destroy the story.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Jenu1 [2010-07-03 19:54:30 +0000 UTC]

It didn't destroy the story because of the cast. If it destroyed the storyline and the story's themes/characters THEN I would find a problem. I liked the movie, I had no problem with it (expect for it's rushy feeling and sometimes cheesy acting). Overall it seemed pretty faithful, more faithful than any other cartoon show to movie adaptation I've seen

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Jenu1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2010-07-04 03:48:06 +0000 UTC]

If that's the case, remind me never to see an anime to live-action adaption again. I was thoroughly disappointed with the characters in the movie, and I don't understand why don't have a problem with it, actually. It didn't completely ruin the storyline but it did destroy a lot of the characters, specifically Aang and Sokka and Azula. How can you say you don't have a problem with the movie when these characters are nothing like they're supposed to be?

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Jenu1 [2010-07-05 05:33:14 +0000 UTC]

To me it really didn't ruin the characters, the only thing about the characters that I was dissapointed about (a little) was that the movie barely discussed about their relationships with each other. But that's all, other than that they acted very similar with their cartoon counterparts. Look at it this way, we still have the original show to run off to to enjoy, why get so worked up about the movie?

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Jenu1 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2010-07-05 14:35:01 +0000 UTC]

fiiiiine... let's just hope that movie gets less than half the money that was spent on it. Yah! XDDD

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Jenu1 [2010-07-05 17:50:48 +0000 UTC]

Why? I want a sequel, just to see if they mess that one up (like the fans are claiming TLA to be) as well Quite frankly, I don't really give a damn about TLA anymore, I've moved on from the Avatar fanbase

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Batz108 In reply to ArrogantVengeance [2010-06-11 21:40:36 +0000 UTC]

First of all, I mean exactly what I said. They aren't sticking to the characters. And you said it yourself, it is based on Asian and Inuit cultures. Btw, I'm not stupid - I'm fully aware that it is a fantasy world, smart one. I've seen enough world maps to figure out that their world isn't our world - it's a damn CARTOON!!!!! Obviously, you need to re-read what I said earlier because I didn't say anything about ethnicity or how completely crewed the casting is. I said...

"I did enough research to satisfy me. That's fine if the cast is cool to you. Whatever - I couldn't care less. MNS may be sticking to the STORYLINE, but he and the rest of Hollywood sure aren't sticking to the CHARACTERS. Why don't you go do your research on that?

P.S. I'm not sure if you meant to reply to ME or the above picture, but if you in fact did direct your little comment towards me, I don't care to hear it. Sorry if you take any of what I said offensively. Just my opinion.I just so happen to be entitled to one. Maybe you should look that up, too if you didn't know."

So, before you go jumping into OTHER PEOPLE'S CONVERSATIONS, you need to get your facts straight. Plus, who ever said that I was generalizing people with their cultures due to their ethnicities? You, my nosey & mislead friend, ae jumping to conclusions. The whole casting is racist. Completely. I couldn't even tell that who some of the characters were because they look nothing like themselves in the cartoon. I know that whenever you make a movie, you're not going to get actors that look exactly like the characters. Yeah, that's fine. It's what happens. BUT, that does not mean in any way, shape, or form that you have to completely white wash the entire cast w/ the exception of Zuko who looks nothing like Zuko except for costume. (Yeah, does a whole lot. NOT)

And your last stupid little comment that you decided to butt in w/ was unnecessary because I believe the same thing. Acting doesn't have to do with race. It has to do with TALENT and PERFORMANCE and SKILL. You don't pick a nearly all white cast for a mainly Asian based cartoon. I mean DAMN. You got the writing. The architecture. The martial arts. The TEA(shoutout to Iroh)!!!!!!!!!!! It's Asian! But, you, Hollywood, and so many other blinded people can't seem to get that through your thick skulls. You don't have to be white to be a good actor. Hell, Dev Patel is a great actor but he isn't right for this movie. Oprah is a good actress - is she in this movie? No, because she isn't right for it. Antonio Banderas is a good actor - is he in this movie? Zhang Ziyi is a good actress - is she in this movie? Jamie Foxx is good actor - is he in this movie? Sandra Bullock, Dakota Fanning, Meryl Streep, Morgan Freeman, Will Smith, Amanda Seyfried, etc. All good actors - none right for the movie. Same with this cast. I'm sure they're nice kids and all ,but they ARE NOT RIGHT. From what I've seen in the trailers - they really aren't good.

I would love to support this movie ,but I simply can't because Hollywood did it again. They did it with Dragon Ball Z. They did it with The Mexican. They do it ALL THE TIME. Hollywood is fine with changing the race of an Asian cartoon ,but they would NEVER change the race of a white cartoon. They would never make Superman a black guy. The would never make Batman a Hispanic guy. etc. And, it seems to me, that they would NEVER EVER EVER EVER make Aang an Asian guy even though he obviously is.

On your sig, it says "Support The Last Airbender (movie) for it's diverse casting! Protest against all of the boycotters!" Isn't that an oxymoron? Yes. It is. There is nothing to support. The CARTOON is a diverse cast. The live action movie is quite the opposite. Complete opposite actually.

You need some help figurig this all out so you can check out racebending.com if you want. That little spat I just did was only the tip of the iceberg. I doubt you'll see my side of the situation anytime soon so...good luck. You obviously need it. Have a nice day.

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Batz108 [2010-06-11 23:46:23 +0000 UTC]

typo, where I said 'ethnicity =/= ethnicty' I meant to say "ethnicity =/= culture', but I guess you couldve figured that out already

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ArrogantVengeance In reply to Batz108 [2010-06-11 23:41:53 +0000 UTC]

"First of all, I mean exactly what I said. They aren't sticking to the characters. And you said it yourself, it is based on Asian and Inuit cultures. Btw, I'm not stupid - I'm fully aware that it is a fantasy world, smart one. I've seen enough world maps to figure out that their world isn't our world - it's a damn CARTOON!!!!! Obviously, you need to re-read what I said earlier because I didn't say anything about ethnicity or how completely screwed the casting is. I said..."

Look here missy, they ARE sticking to the characters, their characters but not necessarily their looks. They don't NEED to look the same in order to act like them. Ever heard of acting ability? Well you should've, so stop judging them by their appearance and at least give them a chance instead of whinning about them. And also, culture =/= ethnicity, realize that and be less ignorant about people and the countries THEY live in.

"I did enough research to satisfy me. That's fine if the cast is cool to you. Whatever - I couldn't care less. MNS may be sticking to the STORYLINE, but he and the rest of Hollywood sure aren't sticking to the CHARACTERS. Why don't you go do your research on that?"

Like I said before, they ARE sticking to the characters, personality wise, and that's all that should matter. Appearances aren't everything, get that through your head and stop judging them by ONLY that.

"P.S. I'm not sure if you meant to reply to ME or the above picture, but if you in fact did direct your little comment towards me, I don't care to hear it. Sorry if you take any of what I said offensively. Just my opinion. I just so happen to be entitled to one. Maybe you should look that up, too if you didn't know."

Well then that just shows you're one sided and don't want to hear people's POV's other than yourself's. And since I did comment to YOUR comment, yes, it WAS directed to you, but now that you mention it, I am also directing it to the person who made this deviation as well. I know how to listen to other people opinions, but when they're flawed like yours (or like other boycotters) then I can't hold back from commenting to them.

"So, before you go jumping into OTHER PEOPLE'S CONVERSATIONS, you need to get your facts straight. Plus, who ever said that I was generalizing people with their cultures due to their ethnicities? You, my nosey & mislead friend, ae jumping to conclusions. The whole casting is racist. Completely. I couldn't even tell that who some of the characters were because they look nothing like themselves in the cartoon. I know that whenever you make a movie, you're not going to get actors that look exactly like the characters. Yeah, that's fine. It's what happens. BUT, that does not mean in any way, shape, or form that you have to completely white wash the entire cast w/ the exception of Zuko who looks nothing like Zuko except for costume. (Yeah, does a whole lot. NOT)"

Oh ok, so know you're mad because I 'stepped' into your conversation without YOUR 'permission', right? Well guess what, this is deviantart, and you made this comment PUBLICLY, so anyone can comment on it. Don't like that, too bad. You probably should get used to it because there are many other people here on dA with differing opinions than you who might comment to your comment. And first, off, I DO have my facts straight, I have actually researched and discovered everything that has to do with the whole 'TLA casting issue', and quite frankly, boycotters are just being mad at the casting because they aren't Asian or Inuit ONLY. To me THAT is racist, they're judging the actors by their skin color and saying they're not "Asian" enough to be able to do these roles. You don't NEED to be Asian to portray the cultures and characters from the show correctly. And if you think that then you miss the WHOLE message and morals that were in the show. Remember what Guru Pathik said, and put it to good use, instead of judge the actors' by their skin colors. They picked those best for the roles, you boycotters are just denying that because you want Asians/Inuits in this movie ONLY and believe the characters to be these ethnicites, even though the characters live on a FANTASY world AND Bryke has NEVER said what their possible 'ethnicities' could be. They're no ethnicities from OUR world, learn to get YOUR facts straight, they are either FN, EK, WT or AN. Period. Denying this means you're just stubborn.

"And your last stupid little comment that you decided to butt in w/ was unnecessary because I believe the same thing. Acting doesn't have to do with race. It has to do with TALENT and PERFORMANCE and SKILL. You don't pick a nearly all white cast for a mainly Asian based cartoon. I mean DAMN. You got the writing. The architecture. The martial arts. The TEA(shoutout to Iroh)!!!!!!!!!!! It's Asian! But, you, Hollywood, and so many other blinded people can't seem to get that through your thick skulls. You don't have to be white to be a good actor. Hell, Dev Patel is a great actor but he isn't right for this movie. Oprah is a good actress - is she in this movie? No, because she isn't right for it. Antonio Banderas is a good actor - is he in this movie? Zhang Ziyi is a good actress - is she in this movie? Jamie Foxx is good actor - is he in this movie? Sandra Bullock, Dakota Fanning, Meryl Streep, Morgan Freeman, Will Smith, Amanda Seyfried, etc. All good actors - none right for the movie. Same with this cast. I'm sure they're nice kids and all ,but they ARE NOT RIGHT. From what I've seen in the trailers - they really aren't good."

You say my comment is stupid, even though you possibly are just one-sided and didn't even considered what I said because of that. Well guess what? YOU need to learn how to talk more civil to other people if you want them to take you more seriously, instead of dissing their comments or calling them names/character traits. And first off, RESEARCH MORE. The whole cast is NOT going to be white! Only Sokka, Katara and the Northern Water Tribe folk. That's it. The fire nation will be Indians/Arabs/Middle Easterners, the Air Nomads will be of mixed ethnicity and the Earth Kingdom will be East Asians and Black people. So your argument of the "whole cast is white" fails. And also, Noah is said to be part Asian, more specifically a Whasian American, which makes him totally ok to be an Air nomad, because like I said, ANs will be casted by people of mixed ethnicity. And like I said before, ethnicity =/= ethnicty. Don't compare the two. People from other countries and from America move to Asian countries and adopt their lifestyles and cultures, but does that mean they must be part Asian to do so? No, you don't need to be Asian or part Asian to represent these cultures correctly. You can't say any actor isn't right for the movie unless you SEE them in action. Don't judge them unless you have seen them, THAT would be the reasonable thing to do. Idk what trailers yOU'VE been watching, but the ones I've seen for TLA are actually pretty good, and you're probably not admitting it because you're still mad about who they casted.

"I would love to support this movie, but I simply can't because Hollywood did it again. They did it with Dragon Ball Z. They did it with The Mexican. They do it ALL THE TIME. Hollywood is fine with changing the race of an Asian cartoon ,but they would NEVER change the race of a white cartoon. They would never make Superman a black guy. The would never make Batman a Hispanic guy. etc. And, it seems to me, that they would NEVER EVER EVER EVER make Aang an Asian guy even though he obviously is."

Ok first off, don't compare TLA to that crapfest named dragon ball evolution. Because believe me, from what I've seen from ANYTHING TLA related, TLA will be 1000 times better than crappy DBE. And also, the same with the DB series, (I should know, I'm a big fan of it too) the characters lived on a fictional earth that had NO map of Asian or any other continent on their 'Earth'. Saying that they're Japanese or Asian just because the show was made in Japan/Asia doesn't mean the setting actually takes place in those countries/areas. Comparing TLA to other movies that are ACTUALLY racist and DISCRIMINATORY is a bad example, because in the Avatar world (and DB world), the planet the characters lived in wasn't Earth or our Earth and DIDN'T have a map of ANY of our world's continents on their world maps. I do agree though that Hollywood has been racist for other movies, but for TLA, we actually have someone directing it who actually CARES so much about it and is such a big fan of it that he's sticking to the plot and the characters' personalities correctly. AND they also let ANYONE audition for the roles, it was an open casting call. We should be grateful for that.

"On your sig, it says "Support The Last Airbender (movie) for it's diverse casting! Protest against all of the boycotters!" Isn't that an oxymoron? Yes. It is. There is nothing to support. The CARTOON is a diverse cast. The live action movie is quite the opposite. Complete opposite actually."

Actually, no it's not an oxymoron, because what I'm encouraging to REAL fans of the show who think boycotting this movie is ridiculous to take a stand and argue back with radical, one-sided boycotters (like yourself) who have hurt their feelings, put their spirits down, and even called THEM racist for supporting this movie. And no, the show didn't show ETHNIC diversity, not as much as this movie is showing (Since you say you THINK the characters were meant to be only Asian and/or Inuit only, even though it's not true). In this movie, people decended from ALL OVER OUR WORLD is being casted into this movie. THAT is more diverse than what you boycotters are demanding this movie to have been casted as (because Asian and Inuit is NOT more diverse than Asian, Inuit, white, Indian, Arabic, black and middle eastern.)

"You need some help figurig this all out so you can check out racebending.com if you want. That little spat I just did was only the tip of the iceberg. I doubt you'll see my side of the situation anytime soon so...good luck. You obviously need it. Have a nice day."

I do not need help at all, in fact, I'm not the one judging the actors because of their skin colors. You boycotters are. It's such a shame how much hypocrisy I've seen from many boycotters, saying they're fighting racism that this movie 'possibly' has (which it doesn't), but at the same time being racist towards the white actors casted in this film because of their 'paleness' and not being able to portray these characters because of it. Quite frankly, you 'fans' are the jaded, racist ones for doing and saying what you have been saying for the past 2 or 3 years. And again with your rude tone, is that really necessary, is THAT how you and other boycotters intend to treat others, like crap? Oh and trust me, you're nothing in the scale of threatening compared to the other, more sick boycotters I've talked to on dA, so I don't need your luck, really, no no, it's not necessary, you can take that luck back. I don't want to get anything from hypocritical racists like you boycotters. Some things are just good to get for free, but others...no. And this is one of them. You're the one who needs your eyes opened up, not me. I see a person by their personality, not skin color, but you boycotting 'fans' only see skin color, which is why I don't want to get anything from scum like you guys. Treat others (even those on the opposite side) the way YOU want to be treated.

PS: I guess the only thing that you and me have a common interest in (that has to do with Avatar) is Zutara (judging from your avvie), but that's it.

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