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Ga-Maleven [2017-07-04 04:46:48 +0000 UTC]
Really, the only way to save the land and horses is to go vegan. Animal agriculture is destroying the planet, and there's simply no need to be raising animals to eat them. But humans just have to piss on everything and kill whatever "inconveniences" their greed.
Human Starvation, Deforestation, and ExtinctionIn this journal I will be discussing how animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, pollution, climate change, human starvation, and species extinction. I won't be discussing how humans are herbivorous and simply don't need animal products. That will be explained in upcoming journals.
While human overpopulation is a major factor of pollution, deforestation, and climate change, its effects are still less than that of animal agriculture. Animal agriculture is the use of producing billions of animals for food, clothing, etc. on a mass scale. This includes raising animals for their flesh (meat), mammary secretions (milk), menstrual cycles (eggs), and even clothing (leather, fur, wool, etc.). But why is it so bad?
The primary reason animal agriculture is devas
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 01:36:54 +0000 UTC]
Veganism will cause more ecological damage and hunger by causing imbalance. Plenty of other practices like harvesting lumber, plant agriculture, development, and mining are every bit as destructive as animal agriculture. Yeah beef is destroying the rain forest but so is coffee, tea, bananas, pineapple, soy, rubber, charcoal, gold, copper, tin, and chocolate. Your journal is full of biased sources, outdated statements, and other gross misinformation. How do you replenish the soil with nutrients for plants? Animal sources is the answer and has been used in nature for eons. Veganism is about discontinuing that. Also plenty of little critters such as rodents, reptiles, rabbits, frogs, and more in the hundreds of millions of others plus billions of bugs get killed by farming equipment and pesticide use. No matter what system we follow animals are still going to die you Petafile. Also livestock eat food that we humans reject. We can't digest grass and other roughage. Those places with starvation are being plagued with war, corruption, and bad management that don't allow for folks to farm effectively.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Ga-Maleven [2017-07-06 15:47:01 +0000 UTC]
It might slow down the inevitable, but even plants need space to grow, and human population is set to double in less than 70 years.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 02:18:21 +0000 UTC]
That statistic is based on how much soy is used to feed poultry mostly chickens by far according to the USDA and FAO. It isn't given to horses, pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, or other mammals. Soy can be harvested multiple times in one year depending on the climate and chickens reproduce, grow, and develop at a far faster rate than other livestock. Even more due to subsidies on corn most livestock has been forced off pastures and into factory farms fed corn that grew on former pasture land. The real statistic is more around 40% of grain is given to livestock and livestock eat rejected crops and crop waste. On pastured land water is return/recycled in the soil. Veganism will cause inefficiency and imbalance. We need livestock mimicking nature to restore fertility to the soil not veganism. New technologies and practices should be considered. Spoiler: you require livestock to grow your so healthy vegan food and lifestyle from their manure. Composting plant waste without mixing it with manure or letting livestock devour it will take years creating mounds of plant waste piling up and no fat livestock to sell and thus driving up the price of grain and produce.
Veganism IS NOT THE ANSWER. Holistic mixed farming in harmony with nature and its cycles is the answer. Veganism isn't a diet based on healthy food. It's madness. People like you will sacrifice their lives for an ideology. Common sense aside. Veganism is a modern first world luxury. No single human population past or present has ever pulled it off.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Ga-Maleven [2017-07-06 21:03:19 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but like I said, it only slows the inevitable. Unless something is done to level off population growth to just a replacement rate, we'll eventually run into the same problems we have now.
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Ga-Maleven In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-07-07 02:14:51 +0000 UTC]
Veganism also stops billions of lives being killed every year, will save the ocean, our health, the planet, etc. After all, humans are herbivorous and eating animals is the cause of 70% of illnesses humans suffer from. So, not eating, abusing, or exploiting animals solves a LOT of problems.
And most vegans are aware of human overpopulation. Even if the human population drops to 5 billion, if humans continue killing animals it will still destroy the planet. We have to go vegan AND stop overpopulating. You can't just pick on and stick to it. We need BOTH to save the planet.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 04:29:05 +0000 UTC]
Veganism kills too. The exact figure isn't known but tens of billions of little critters like field mice, cottontails, and even fawns die just so you eat your salad, soy, bread, beans, and corn and proclaim how much holier you are than us just because you don't eat animals. You should know that 200 years ago most of the vegan versions and staples didn't exist and that many vegan favorites have to be shipped from thousands of miles burning up fossil fuels and poor workers have to toil away under the broiling Sun to provide it. Men, women, and children are basically slaves because most of these developing nations have few protections from people being exploited. Even animals get overworked and abused too. Even more animal products are in virtually everything such as cosmetics, glue, paint, fuel, plastics, airplane parts, car parts, and even computer parts. If you're truly vegan you would grow your own garden, not use technology of any sort, and live in a cave, burrow, or simple hut instead of modern housing. Nothing is truly vegan it's a myth full of hypocrisies and contradictions. Why is it wrong to kill a fat steer or hog for meat but ok to kill orangutans for palm oil or frogs, fish, bats, and bunnies for your salad and soy?
We are not cows. We cannot graze on the land and turn it into fatty acids with our gut bacteria. Our eyes aren’t on the sides of our heads so that we can put our heads down to graze and know that predators are coming up behind us. We don’t have big flat teeth to grind all of that foliage. We don’t stand out in the pasture grazing for 16 hours a day. We don’t have tiny brains like herbivores do. We have big brains like the other predators due to access to protein and saturated fat. We have very low stomach pH in order to kill bacteria on rotting flesh. I cannot believe we have humans like you that think we’re herbivores. It is utter insanity. Show me the cave paintings of ancient man attacking an orchard. Plenty of primitive tribes ate meat for generations had great health and all these illnesses you speak of are recent and affect modern societies and most studies blaming animal products have poor methodology, don't account for other factors, or just plain biased. To blame such new health problems on such old food sources defies all logic. You really need to eat some eggs, fish rich in omega 3 fatty acids, venison, turkey, cheese, yogurt, and a good grassfed steak and butter. You're brain clearly needs it due to your judgemental, nasty, and vicious nature. Animal nutrition has been part of the human diet for 3 million years for a very good reason." Sure, but veganism has been with us for more than half a century for an even better reason: profit$ for big food & big pharma (& even big oil, which uses vegans as useful idiots to promote its "Fossil fuels are fantastic; cows are the carbon culprits" propaganda). (Apologies to nice and sane vegans out there. I'm not referring to you.)
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MonocerosArts In reply to Ga-Maleven [2017-07-08 00:30:48 +0000 UTC]
No offense, but I never said veganism is bad or that we shouldn't do it. I'm sensing a little bit of defensiveness here...?
All I said was that even if the whole planet went vegan, it would just buy us more time before overpopulation caught up with us.
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Ga-Maleven In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-07-08 01:14:13 +0000 UTC]
No, it just sounded like you were against it and didn't see it as something we need to do. Please don't say "defensive." That's what a lot of bigots say when you try to explain something to them. It just gets old real fast...
Not necessarily. So, veganism is about not harming others, right? I've noticed that as people go vegan and become aware of OTHER living things by not harming them, they become more aware of how human population is harming by being so large. The majority of vegans I've met are fully aware of human overpopulation and are doing something about it by either adopting, having 1-2 kids, or none at all. So, that heightened state of conscience is also helping other non-vegan issues. So, we only save the planet by going vegan. And several studies have shown how veganism will save 8.5 million lives by 2050 by providing more food and space for humans. Even more for wildlife.
So, yes, continue educating about human overpopulation, but do not promote any kind of animal eating at all, as you have said here with saying humans should kill bison instead. That's not a solution in any way, shape, or form. That's just torturing and killing someone who simply doesn't need to be killed or exploited. We can save the land and horses far quicker and more efficiently by simply not eating/raising animals for food. Even if cattle themselves aren't raised on that land, they are taking it to grow crops for them instead. removing animal products off the menu completely will allow all that land for wildlife to stay for the wildlife.
Something to do more research on. And I hope you check out that journal because I have lots of links from experts and scientists on there who explain all of this in great detail.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 06:21:50 +0000 UTC]
You're always picking fights and finding fault and that is a great way to make enemies and earn critics. Your 'humans are herbivores' lie is really old and rotten. No wonder you get trolled so hard.
You realize that in order to not harm other sentient beings (well animals only according to your philosophy) we can't farm, drive, fly, live in modern housing or cities, or do much of anything cause it interferes with and harms animals in some way. Either human wellbeing has to be factored in or not. No vegan culture past or present has ever existed and is unproven. Most vegans quit due to poor health and thus veganism isn't for them. It would be disastrous to force an unproven, modern, first world luxury in widespread practice. Unlike other animals the caring capacity isn't known because humans can use technology to increase and modify it. Otherwise the only other option is to commit suicide and I see zero vegans doing this. (And frankly I don't recommend it because human life is sacred. I state this to expose how ridiculous it is.)
Bison along with other nonhumans aren't someone despite what you keep proclaiming in your perverted darkness. Animals grazing how nature intended are vital for the health of the soil and land. Animals have always been part of the equation; take them out and it won't function anymore. Monocrops aren't natural and deplete the soil after a while and manure returns nutrients and needed microbes into the soil. Seriously don't you see how animals die in the wild? It is far worse than any thing we humans tend to practice. Getting a quick shot in the head is far more humane than slowly starving, wasting away from a disease, drowning in a river, or being eating alive by a predator. Gosh you don't know anything about animal or soil husbandry. And again your journals are full of lies, half truths, and propaganda reflecting what type of perverted person you are just like your shock art does.
You really are far better off leaving veganism and ought to get some serious professional help, and maybe a real life in the process too.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Ga-Maleven [2017-07-08 01:49:11 +0000 UTC]
Um, how about we talk about this later, okay?
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Ga-Maleven In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-07-08 02:47:14 +0000 UTC]
I mean, you can reply whenever you want to so... Yeah. Doesn't have to be right away. Something wrong?
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 04:48:58 +0000 UTC]
Go look in a mirror. Ask yourself if cussing out, making vile accusations, and other bigoted beliefs are really helpful. Better yet eat some wholesome animal products cause your brain is malfunctioning. It requires vitamin B12, vitamin K, omega 3 fatty acids, good quality proteins, and other fats. Those nutrients will allow your brain to function but also absorb other nutrients required for health and wellbeing. You're clearly displaying emotional imbalance, cognitive dysfunction, impulsive, and irrational. You ought to visit a shrink to aid you in undoing the indoctrination process and may need meds too. Afterall in psychology there is a saying that "The fish is the last one to know that it is wet." Speaking of fish that would be a great start for you.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Ga-Maleven [2017-07-08 03:57:25 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm sensing a lot of hostility and negative emotion from you. You've also made some pretty big (and false) accusations about the things I said about veganism, as well as about several other things. When I tried to tell you this, you accused me of sounding like a bigot... I don't mean to be rude, and it's entirely possible you're just not aware how you're coming across, but it's very hurtful. Attitudes like that are exactly why a lot of people don't like vegans. I sometimes come across as negative, too, so I'm just trying to help you here. Either way, I don't think this conversation will be productive.
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Ga-Maleven In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-07-08 04:26:56 +0000 UTC]
I'm not being negative in any way. I am firm and to the point when I discuss issues of the world, such as the need for veganism, birth control, etc. but not rude. You're not the first to tell me this, and it's because you cannot see or hear me or my tone of voice. I'm not being hostile at all. If I was, you would know very well. I live with an attorney and thus talk like one. Most people aren't use to that sort of to the point, no sugar coating way of speaking.
I never accused you of being a bigot. And my way of speaking is not harming vegans at all. I have turned several people vegan online and in person, and I came here to point out how your idea of killing bison rather than bovines simply isn't solving any problems at all, and for you to do more research on the subject. I have not been negative towards you at all, simply pointed out the facts and how you need to look into more things.
It's only not productive if you wish not to listen with an open mind. If I sounded harsh, I apologize, but again, I am a firm writer/speaker, but that doesn't mean I'm being aggressive or condescending. I am just trying to help you see the facts you are not aware of so you can make better decisions and help horses and other animals in a far more efficient, logical, and compassionate manner. I've done a lot of research myself and now am sharing what I have learned (the Educational journals especially) so you and others can see the things not often talked about because the large corporations, like the meat and dairy industry, try to hide from us so they can keep making money.
Just do more research and keep an open mind. I'm not your enemy.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 05:48:46 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes you are negative and nasty too. You are firm but to a fault and there is little need for veganism. You really need to learn some social skills and hold your fire but then again your brain isn't functioning due to your diet and idolitrous lifestyle/thinking. I've seen/read how you treat others who think differently or aren't interested. You'r truly in the gall of bitterness and the bonds of iniquity. Your speech and actions only reinforces the belief that vegans are a bunch of condensending, vulgar, animal worshiping hypocrites who fain peace and acceptance. You're not open minded at all but a blasphemous bigot who makes nonexisting doctrine to fit in with you contradictory philosophy and diet. Your so called educational journals are jokes because they are so one sided and saturated with propaganda and outdated reports. You bully others and broke the etiquette. You're an amazing liar, manipulator, and hypocrite but I shouldn't be surprised because you learned from the best.
How about you open up your mind and stop being a bully and treating others with different views like the enemy. A truce is both sides agreeing not a bully calling the shots. Seriously the more you allow yourself to get triggered/have your buttons pressed the more irrational you remain.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Ga-Maleven [2017-07-08 18:12:10 +0000 UTC]
I see what you're saying, but you need to be aware that tone of voice can't be conveyed online. I feel like I'm talking to my past self, here. I used to speak "firmly" and be "blunt" and I thought that anyone who didn't like that was just being sensitive, and sometimes I still struggle with that, but you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar. The internet isn't a court room. People on here want to have friendly conversations, not feel attacked or pushed around. Love and compassion are much better ways to help people understand the benefits of veganism. You should talk to Pupavegan. She's very good at staying friendly and loving even with people who are being complete jerks to her.
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Ga-Maleven In reply to MonocerosArts [2017-07-08 18:46:30 +0000 UTC]
I am being friendly. I think culture has a lot to do with how people react as well. I've noticed Americans tend to be quick to assume that anything said to them is an attack and they are victims, while Europeans tend to take even firm and aggressive talk as normal. All my British friends are quite harsh, but that's just how things are in the different cultures. I'm also Hispanic so, maybe that effects how I talk as well.
I don't think my way of explaining things is a problem, again, seeing how I've turned several people vegan online. I think it's mostly people getting defensive and therefore assuming someone who is pointing out something that goes against their current way of thinking is "bad."
I know how to argue with people. I've been arguing, debating, and educating people for several years. And everyone learns differently. Some need to be treated like delicate flowers, while some need to be treated firmly. My two best friends had to get it drilled into them firmly before they became vegans, started accepting gays, etc. So, depending on the person you speak to will determine how to speak to them.
Also, women tend to be assumed of being aggressive/mean when we are firm because the whole sexism that women are "sweet and weak" and any strong woman is just on her period and a bitch. Men speak firmly, no one cares. A woman speaks firmly, and it's the end of the world...
I've spoken to her some. Too delicate for what some people need. She can reach out to the snowflakes, that's fine. I'll deal with the people who need the "tough love" or don't assume everyone on the internet is an angry bitch.
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TrottingPeryton In reply to Ga-Maleven [2019-04-04 05:28:40 +0000 UTC]
Friendly? No way. The vegan (cult)ure/community has really brainwashed and built up a lot of pride in you. You refuse to admit that you wrong or misguided, get offended, and get others all up in arms too. You're displaying raving bigotry by assuming people who eat meat are as evil as rapists, murders, sociopaths, torturers, and school shooters. You're extremely harsh and seem to get riled up over silly stuff and post all sorts of misinformation. You must've flunked every science, history, vocabulary, and religious subject you took. You must be related to Alexandra Occasional Cortex too.
Yes some folks will turn vegan under pressure but most will reject it. In fact the vast majority of vegans quit due to declining health. Also be careful on what users say online because you can't verify what they claim. They can claim to be related to a celebrity, be a musical prodigy, or have a nonexistent degree.
You're debating often turns into name calling, tantrums, slander, and bullying. That's not a healthy debate. You often block others too and go ape when you get blocked. Absolute hypocrisy. You always want the last word and act so unchristlike and claim to be Christian too. Veganism must be your savior not Christ. If you want people to listen and respect you; you need to to respect them back. You aren't making peace but causing and promoting contention.
You're blindness, pride, and hypocrisy has turned you into an overbearing monster who picks fights. If you continue to do this you're going to find yourself fired, blacklisted, sued, fined, or placed in a correctional facility/program or something else. Quit assuming everyone who doesn't support animal rights, is nonvegan, hunts, fishes, or anything adhering to your values is an evil person. Veganism is at the foundation a philosophy based on humanizing animals. The whole God telling us to be vegan is blasphemy at the finest. The Bible is full of meat, dairy, egg, and honey consumption. People including the righteous ones wore fur, leather, wool, rode animals, and labored them too. Humans are made in God's image but not the nonhumans and the word vegan was coined in the 1940's while the Bible was compiled centuries before. Seriously find some ancient scroll, tablet, pottery, or other artifact that has the word vegan on it. God tells us to be vegan? You pulled that out of your behind and tossed all logic and facts aside.
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Paraceratherium [2015-11-20 08:39:46 +0000 UTC]
Here are some entries from a beef industry insider. He lamented the state of the industry There are links to other entries he has written on his editorial, but I'll provide them here. Then about a year later there was news that maybe there's a more positive outlook for the industry . Curiously, he leaves his job as editor of Beef Producer for greener pastures. Has he seen the writing on the wall on the actual state of America's beef industry?
Why are the cattle baron white knights here so adamant about propping up a moribund industry? American beef consumption has been in decline for at least 10 years.
www.countinganimals.com/meat-c…
Production costs have increased so prices needed to rise to meet them.
www.meatpoultry.com/articles/n… {623621CA-0B39-4A55-890F-A1AA56AF6B04}&cck=1
www.lifescript.com/health/cent…
And with the World Health Organiazation's classification that red meat is a carcinogen, that doesn't help the cattle barons at all. I'm sure there are those DA beef defenders on here who will decry this as a New World Order agenda to pacify us with a vegetarian diet. What complete malarky! Those people should move out of their parents' basement and remove the tinfoil hat.
Here's a link to news from mainstream media source time.com/4086858/who-meat-canc…
fortune.com/2015/10/27/red-mea…
What doctors had to say: www.pcrm.org/health/cancer-res…
There still has to be some kind of meat industry to satisfy those of us who have carnivorous animals in our homes. You can't be a true vegetarian if you own a cat, dog, snake or monitor lizard.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Paraceratherium [2015-11-23 21:30:26 +0000 UTC]
I'm not against farmers, I just want them to be responsible and not spread lies to promote themselves. It's harmful to people and the environment when agriculture gets out of hand.
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Paraceratherium In reply to MonocerosArts [2015-11-25 05:42:42 +0000 UTC]
Neither am I. They have an important role in society to grow our food and cash crops. The land they own is entrusted to them for purely agricultural purposes. Cash crop is any plant grown for purposes outside of human and animal ingestion such as cotton.
I'm only against "farmers" who plan to sell their land for any degree of rural residential/commercial development or insist it as an option for land use. This is an affront to our trust in them to provide their service as food and cash crop providers.
They can use a lot of reasons about why they want to sell their land: like it isn't economical to farm anymore, none of the children want to take up the responsibility or guardedly their land is a retirement fund so they can have their annual cruises in Alaska and Caribbean. Sometimes it is really no fault of their own when a developer is pressuring them to sell their land. That's when I can sympathize with them.
If they want to sell their land, then it must be to another family that wants to farm it. More laws need to enacted to encourage farming and discourage urban development in rural areas. If they're not going to farm on agricultural land, then let it go fallow to wilderness until the time is needed to farm again.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Paraceratherium [2015-11-27 17:20:33 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes they don't have a choice who to sell it to. I'd prefer it didn't go to residential development, either, but sometimes there's not a choice. Sometimes they have to sell or they'll go hungry.
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iBottle [2015-10-31 19:15:57 +0000 UTC]
Are there more humans than animals?
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MonocerosArts In reply to iBottle [2015-11-01 05:25:14 +0000 UTC]
I haven't done a population count of people on those states, so I don't know. A lot of people live in apartments and suburbs, so even if there are lots of people, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are using lots of land. Grazing animals like cattle need a lot of land per animal.
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iBottle In reply to MonocerosArts [2015-11-01 10:36:30 +0000 UTC]
Of there are more animals.
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PsionicsKnight [2015-04-05 04:54:17 +0000 UTC]
I think the bison rancher idea is a pretty good one; it will help bring an endangered species back up (John Pinette would be proud-and relieved) and it will give people the chance to have meat while also not just taking care of the environment, but also give people a healthier alternative to beef. And ranchers could still (at least potentially) keep their jobs: they'll just be raising another type of animale.
While I could definitely see your worry about how keeping bison may, eventually, yield the same results as cattle, I also do agree with you seeing it as a step in the right direction. Moreover, while I don't think we can make a solution that will be absolutely perfect, there is also the idea that, since we have one problem out of the way, we can focus on finding other ways to help solve any and potential problems with raising bison.
As for any other suggestions: well, there is one I have. In my opinion, one thing we also have to do is help get ride of Factory Farms (or, at least, make them more humane to animals). From a documentary I saw, I learned that many farms that house cattle feed them corn rather than grass, which not only hurts the cows but also causes the grass and plants to become so wild, it begins to hurt other plants. Now... this was a documentary I saw during my Sophmore year at highschool (I'm currently a college Freshman), so I may have gotten the information wrong and/or things may have changed. Forgive me if my ignorance causes any confusion and/or I brought up something unrelated to the subject at hand.
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MonocerosArts In reply to PsionicsKnight [2015-04-06 01:39:32 +0000 UTC]
Yep! I don't want cattle ranchers to go out of business, I just want them to stop damaging the land. Wildlife live there, along with endangered plants and animals, not to mention how all the damage that cattle cause is being blamed on Mustangs. To blame the damage caused by over 4,000,000 animals on fewer than 25,000 animals defies all logic.
I'm with you: I hate factory farms. They're inhumane to the animals and the meat they produce is not as healthy as it could be. And yes, you are correct that factory farms feed cattle a corn-based diet. I don't know if the documentary told you, but since corn is difficult to digest, the cattle must be flushed out with tubing inserted into their gut. It's so inhumane. I agree that it must end. Unfortunately, what I don't know about factory farms is how much we rely on them for our beef. I know public land cattle provide only 3% of the beef products we need and sell, but I don't know about factory farms. I wonder if public lands cattle could replace the loss of production if factory farms were shut down or at least turned humane. A huge amount of public lands beef products are thrown away, and I wonder if we utilized those, could we still get by without factory farms?
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PsionicsKnight In reply to MonocerosArts [2015-04-18 21:27:47 +0000 UTC]
Oh trust me, I know exactly how you feel; it's terrible to see it when people use scapegoats in an attempt to enforce their own agendas. While my experiences with scapegoats, and the kind of Insane Troll Logic you mentioned here, deals with other people than animals, it still is terrible when people do this kind of thing. Especially when they are, basically, using it to justify a certain action/position for an actual problem. This is my basic reaction:
As for the factory farms; I think the public and private land cattle (or, hopefully, bison) can replace the meat that is produced by factory farms, but I'm not entirely sure. And yes; the documentary did mention how cattle can't digest corn as well as grass. I don't remember it mentioning cattle getting flushed with tubes, but that could have been because I only saw the film once a long time ago (I saw it towards the beginning of my sophmore year in HS; I'm now a college Freshman). If you are interested in the documentary itself, it was called "Food Inc." by Robert Kenner. Just a head's up; the film itself doesn't delve to much into animal rights, as it is predominately about the food industry, it's treatment of employees, and how animals are treated. So, while it does have a bit of information about animal rights, it doesn't go too deep into the subject.
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MonocerosArts In reply to PsionicsKnight [2015-04-19 21:50:01 +0000 UTC]
I should look into that documentary! It sounds useful.
I'm not an animal rights activist. I support animal welfare, but I'm not one of those people who's against shelter euthanasia and the like. I believe that if it has to be done, it has to be done. I just want it done humanely.
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PsionicsKnight In reply to MonocerosArts [2015-04-27 04:22:33 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I think you'd like it.
Oh, I see. Pardon me for my ignorance.
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KalahariMeerkatfan [2015-03-22 21:53:21 +0000 UTC]
I heard that bison is actually healthier than beef, so for health nuts this idea could be very popular...the only problem is that there are not as many bison since their numb were hit so severely, but it would be better. Mustangs and bison have co-existed for a long time and bison, even ones who are captive bred will most likely follow the same rules.
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Kajm In reply to MonocerosArts [2015-11-22 22:04:08 +0000 UTC]
I've had bison, it is leaner and a pretty decent taste.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Kajm [2016-02-19 23:01:08 +0000 UTC]
Here's something I wrote about an interesting paper I came across: the-cynical-unicorn.deviantart…
I thought it might be up your alley! The second and third articles are pretty well-known and obvious (you'd have to be pretty far out of the Wildlife loop to not have heard about those topics), but the first is interesting. Obviously there's no definite answer yet about which continent horses originated on, but this is certainly some intriguing evidence, especially since there's no evidence anywhere in the world that suggests that modern horses originated anywhere else. Everything that we have found so far points to North America.
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MonocerosArts In reply to Kajm [2015-11-22 22:35:00 +0000 UTC]
That's what I've heard about it. Everyone seems to like it. I've never tried it myself, though, because the only time I saw it available was in burger form, and I'm not a fan of ground meat. It's a texture thing with me; it's like it's been pre-chewed, lol. I don't think burgers are evil, I just personally don't like them.
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