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Muzik-Maniac — Alternate Habsburg Europe Map
Published: 2011-03-03 04:48:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 21962; Favourites: 151; Downloads: 251
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I haven't really had much time to upload/work on anything lately, school's started, and well my "creative block" has left me with a lot of unfinished maps/ideas xP.You could say this is the product of procrastination lol
Anyway, I guess this has kind of turned into a fledgling series, if i have time i might do the other maps of the Habsburg holdings in this alternate timeline. Until then i hope this is good enough.
Note:
*Just for clarification, this is an alternate History map of what maybe it would look like if the Habsburgs had kept many of their european holdings/federated them... or something to that effect lol
*set in the mid to late 19th century.
*Sorry if the province borders are off (well for Austria-Hungary anyway), i made the mistake of erasing the national borders when editing the base map, and then coming up with the idea of adding provincial borders. I used a map of the "United States of Greater Austria" and visually traced the lines of the proposed states (like i said i probably murdered them, sorry xP).
*I'd probably say this would be placed sometime before the Spanish American War? Haven't really worked out a date yet.
*The reason why there's two National Capitals is because i figured the Royal Family would be Housed in Vienna, and the Senate and "Royal Representatives" based in Budapest.
*Overall I'd probably see this idea as more of a Confederation meets Global Empire, but then again; I guess maybe something along the lines of the Organization of the German Empire maybe? Idk....
*There are four main "autonomous" regions within the European section of the Empire: The Kingdom of Spain, The United States of Greater Austria, Kingdom of Naples, and The United Netherlands. The Austrian/Hungarian Branch of the Monarchy Holds Power over the others, thus the "Royal" Capital is located in Vienna, and the Legislative Capital in Budapest. (I'm considering making Madrid the Judicial Capital? But i can't really decide.)
*About the Abbreviations, i had absolutely no idea how to go about that, so i just winged it, if anyone wants to correct me or make any suggestions, be my guest.
*I've got to say, i love spain after this lol, the borders are not as complex as any of the other's i had to draw, but then again i slightly simplified them for the sake of my sanity <.< >.>
*This is simply a map of the European holdings, the others may fallow if i have the time or patience.... xP
*The world map of this little timeline of mine can be seen here:
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-Subnote: Refer to the rough draft description for a majority of the timeline reasoning/description.
*A closer look at the South American Holdings:
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*A closer look at the South African Holdings:
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If you have any questions, than feel free to ask, i will try to answer them to the best of my ability (considering i forgot a majority of my reasoning to this Dx) lol
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Comments: 19
Is this some kind of Austro-Burgundian-Spanish Personal Union? Pretty neato
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This looks cool. A good point of divergence for this could be no extinction of the Spanish line, and a possible union later.
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Thanks! Hmm, i think that's what i intended, either that or the Austrian branch inherited... one or the other, i should have written it down somewhere lol.
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A POD during the War of the Spanish Succession could help too - Leopold I and Joseph I die on schedule, but the Austrian side ultimately wins with Emperor Charles VI becoming Charles III of Spain.
Especially since Vienna is the capital of the entire demesne.
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Considering the borders of Spain and Italy, can I take it that France might not have Corsica in this?
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No, france was able to retain its control over Corsica.
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Why is Luxembourg independent? And where is the Prince-Bishopric of Liège? And why is there a border through Brabant?
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hmmm... well I think you admittedly got me on that one, its been so long I've forgotten lol. Although i may revise that, Annexation of Luxembourg into the empire would seem far more likely than its retaining its independence.
(There's going to be a lot of ASB after this point)
Although at the time, i think (emphasis on "I think") i had reasoned that it was primarily to keep the peace between France, Prussia, and Austria. If Austria had outright annexed it into the United Habsburgian Netherlands, it could have been cause for conflict.
Well as for the Prince-Bishopric of Liège, the revolution succeeded, and it became a republic. Upon the defeat of Napoleon, the Republic was a put under the occupational authority of the Habsburgs, who instate a Pro-Habsburg Leader for the republic. Several years later, the Liege Republic, and Greater Habsburg Empire sign the Treaty of Liege, officially recognizing the Republic's incorporation into the empire.
The occupation of the Habsburgian Netherlands, the southern half (belgium) found itself under a strict policy of Frenchification by Napoleon. And that carried itself into the reunification in the post Napoleonic era within the Greater Habsburg Empire. Under the Ethnic Equality and Freedoms act of 1625, effectively cooling the rising ethnic tensions around the empire, and eventually lead the the re-organization of several inner-territorial borders. Brabant found itself divided between the dutch speakers in the North, and the Francophoners in the south. And sense it could not overrule imperial authority, found itself split and dismantled into new reorganized provinces (those provinces are not shown because of the smaller governmental level).
Probably not that good of an explanation, but i hope it answered your questions to an extent.
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Madrid as the judicial capital would be appropriate, considering the amount of Spanish colonial territory held in South America.
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Ok, thank you for the input. I was hesitant to mark Madrid as the Judicial capital because i was afraid its distance from Budapest and Vienna was to great to have a strong involvement in the government.
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I'm surprised that they actually kept Spain this time.
Also, I find the Habsburg EU an interesting idea.
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Yep, I'd figured Spain would be one of the major key players within the Greater Empire's political, and economic system.
Thanks, I just tried to imagine the possibility of how large the Habsburg Empire could have been in Europe. in fact I've been playing around with the idea of doing a 1960's "Cold War" Style world map; and the idea of an OTL style EU. Although with the size of the empire even after the cut downs i have planned, it could still have problems trying to convince the other European countries to Join an economic European Union due to its size in comparison, and the huge advantage it would hold as a result.
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There's also the possibility that other powers like France or Germany would likely set up their own EUs to counteract their Austrian rivals.
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Two economic trading blocks... that has potential for a trade war
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That might make for a good timeline premise, actually.
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Nice map. We never think much of Hasburg as a major power these days. Thanks for giving then a look-in!
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Thanks, its always interesting to see how things "could have been," especially with the Habsburgs and all the connections they had.
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