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nabi767 In reply to Luuney [2015-10-10 12:02:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your  s. Simple yet powerful message
You are the second person implying the horsey is the best feature in this drawing Wonder whether it is because it was drawn in tiny size or unlike the girl I actually drew it from 2 photo references.

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Luuney In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-11 05:26:35 +0000 UTC]

Tiny horses are cute so it's maybe favourite part of the drawing. I think the horse is loyally and patiently waiting for it's rider (the girl?) to finish day dreaming at the tree. Maybe the horse is missing its rider because of their distance? Or perhaps the horse ran away from the girl, so she is waiting for the horse to come back, and it has? Are any of these interpretations the same as yours? xD I think the tree and the tree's shading looks good. The wind effect noticeable from her hair, cape and the leaves is great. Tree roots could do some more shading and the girl looks like she's hovering over the tree, like she's levitating. 0.0 but that's just my opinion, I'm not sure if that's only me. Umm references are very helpful. The more you practice drawing from references, the more you don't need references. Hmm and the more you practice drawing the more you know how to draw. Like the way you picture things in your mind and draw them out becomes easier. But I guess that depends on your style. Where am I going with this? Lol xD Umm sometimes you cannot find references for the exact things you picture in your mind but that's ok! There are always ways to go about it, eg human anatomy references for poses, photos of faces in the desirable pose or lighting you're searching for. (If that's why you didn't use references for the girl- or were you experimenting how it would turn out without references? I do that too, quite a lot.)

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nabi767 In reply to Luuney [2015-10-11 06:12:58 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I didn't expect one would read a story from the horsey That is so cool!!  I imagined they trust each other the horse would not run away. You are right, the horse was loyally and patiently waiting for the girl to get up to ride and run again. Although, the horse was kept distanced from her little bit by bit looking for yummy grass to eat but then checking occasionally on her  
Yeah, I see the problem with the roots and the girl's sitting pose. I drew the roots for her to sit on there but turned out not so pretty. Yeah, she doesn't look like sitting on the roots. 
I am too used to draw from a photo (like cats) that I searched long while for a girl with long princess dress in a sitting position on a floor or a grass but couldn't find it. I wanted to see the shading on the folding of a wide dress enough to ride also. Last time I drew a girl in a princess-like dress was when I was in elementary that I would not reach a point to draw without reference if they are available. Drawing things in imagination was an experiment for me and more of an adventure. It was hard and fun, but not relaxing as in drawing cats   

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Luuney In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-16 09:35:42 +0000 UTC]

Aww checking on her xD cute.
She could be too badass to sit on roots. She levitates. Some next level shiz right here.
That's fine! Experiment away. We all improve with time. Adventure awaits you!

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nabi767 In reply to Luuney [2015-10-18 08:53:53 +0000 UTC]

Talking to you, now I see why the horsey is considered the best feature here. I briefly positioned the horse there and was mostly concerned how to draw a girl.
It is really funny she could she have a levitation ability or she just sip a levitation potion.
I really appreciate your encouragement

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Luuney In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-24 08:38:16 +0000 UTC]

No problem

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-10-07 17:32:56 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for your feedback.
Actually, this took the longest of all my drawings including preparation stage. I am so used to drawing from a photo that when I tried to draw things in my imagination I had to look for references which do not exist. Girls usually don't wear long princess dresses then take photo in sitting on the floor or grass positions. I wanted to add shading on the dress but gave up in the end. Right, as you said, her sitting pose seems not right. Now I think about it, I could take myself a picture for the position with a bed sheet or something.
Haha, I did find a nice looking horse photo though. Too bad, the horsey had to be drawn too tiny far back.
About the shadow, I was sleepy and regretted the moment I added them. I guess I could have just added hints of shadows as in a cloudy day. At that time, I wanted a tablet so bad so I can try things again. I might redraw whole thing again and the 2nd time wouldn't take much time, haha.
She doesn't have to be real pretty but I guess for fantasy purpose a princess is generally pretty so. She is not a princess but a daughter of a duke. You are the loveable pirate so you must be pretty, right?
While I was drawing though, I wonder how you draw one character that look alike in the next frames and so on in your manga. 

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-07 18:49:25 +0000 UTC]

Im always happy to provide my good friend with feedback (I would do it sooner if I wants sick XD I didnt feel motivated enough to write more than a few words so I waited till I get better sightly XD)
Actually using reference is pretty good, you shouldnt keep just drawing what you imagine if you are not sure what you are drawing or not sure how to draw it, when drawing something its good to study it first, lol this might feel like weird note but Im looking on it from my POV and I usually use only imagination and rarely use references, might be because Im so used to drawing at school where I had no chance to get a good references, unless I was drawing damn school XD
Ah you know, you dont really need to have exact reference of what you want to draw, its essencial to have the reference and then combinate it and shape it to what your imagination wants, like combinating the two XD
Yeah, poor little horse X3
Ah yeah, its actually funny feeling when after drawing digitally you go traditional, I was sketching in school and I just have the urge to flip it horizontally but it was impossible haha It got me slightly frustrated XD
Well generally, when you draw something or someone you want them to be pretty no? unless its your plan to make them as ugly as possible or something, but even then you have to do it the "pretty" ugly way or it will seem like halfassed XD 
Is lovable defined as pretty? LOL I think of myself to be ugly mabye? sometimes, but there are times when I look in mirror and I say "damn Im hot" or something, to boost my self-confidence (it actually helps haha and it feels good XD)
How I draw one character so he looks alike...well..I dont haha, I struggle with it so hard, thats why I wanted to draw manga, to practice drawing one character all over again and make him consistent, coz I never could before XD Every reference sheets of my character was like original XP Buuuut I guess I can do it actually if you think he looks consistent no? XD Ah I guess I started to analyze more the details and proportions of face and such to always make his face look same, like how long is his nose, what shape it is...and such, it works so far XD (was this helpful? whenever I write longer answers my thoughts get all over the place heh sorry for that)

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-10-09 12:31:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh, feedback of a pirate is always much appreciated.  I also try to make more than one line exclamation comments to my few watchers. Even thou sometimes words don't come up, dA's notification feature is very addictive to checking on them. 
So you draw in school as well. When I see blogs, lots of people draw in a cafe, subway or outdoors, but I always draw alone in my room. Generally, our subways are packed with too many ppl looking at their phones and I'd rather be with my cat in my room than in a cafe alone. There was one friend who went to art school and she drew or doodle any where all the time even on a napkin. In middle school, she was the one inspired me, then discouraged me when she colored a pavilion in a park with purple and orange watercolors. I was so shocked she used colors that didn't exist in front of our eyes. And I gave up becoming an artist thinking I don't have that free spirits and until now I like to use exact photo reference. Then when I had my cat I started drawing again since I had so much affections for the aesthetically beautiful creature with emotions. I feel really different when drawing cats vs non-cats. I have so much energy, haha. I am happy as it is. Drawing as a hobby is always fun and I saw her drinking a lot because her artists friends drink a lot and she maybe struggling about her pursuing doing fine arts than commercial one.
Yeah, you are right about "pretty" ugly. Though, I have never tried to draw ugly or gory things. I guess maybe ppl get bored in pursuing pretty and beautiful, but I have not reached that point. 
For me, my brother is prettier than me. I just try not to get fat.
You are thinking opposite from me. I don't think I can't draw ppl look alike that I don't think I can draw manga. Actually, I really haven't drawn a girl since I was in primary.  

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-09 14:45:40 +0000 UTC]

I was always drawing in my primary, in last three years or so because I kinda got separated from rest of class, bullies and such, so instead of just sitting there alone I always brough paper and pencil and doodles something every break and sometimes during classes XD I didnt draw as much in high school coz we had more to study plus I kinda started to make social connections with class and all and now in uni I only doodle during lectures during which I know I dont need to take notes, thats like hour and half of drawing just like that I dont think I could draw in cafe or subway, we dont have subway lol XD and my ride to school is like ten to fifteen minutes so I wont even bother trying, but most comfortable place to draw for me is my room
Thats really nice story behind your drawing beginings
I think I started drawing in elementary when I still had friends, with some girls, we would draw stuff and have fun and then when I got isolated I just kinda did it to pass time and kinda not break at the place, I had hard time going to school these few years...oh well, but I kinda stick to it and Im still drawing coz its lots of fun and I can relax while at it
The problems with commercial things in art is reason why I didnt go to art school, I wanted drawing to remain as my hobby only, coz I slightly feared I might come to dislike it if it meant I have to draw like really have to... something like that, plus working as artist isnt all that nice, coz you dont have assurance that you will get paid and such... I rather have normal work with monthly pay and draw when I have time and feel like it
Ah my brothers are real cool, I have to admit it, they are hot I look like the eldest one, like our father and his mum and ect, the genes are strong lol
 

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-10-11 05:03:53 +0000 UTC]

It's nice to have drawing friends. I think I only had one I mentioned before. 

I guess I was lucky I had not been bullied at school. In elementary, I was small and wear glasses then the teacher liked me because at that time I fell in love with studying English. I guess I could be the victim but then there were no one of cruel characters among classmates. But then after classes, only me and other friend clean the classroom since everyone else left without cleaning together. I was just friend to her who was super nice and we had no hard feelings towards others. We just talked and washed cleaning rags together. And I also showed all the homework for the English class in the morning and most boys gladly copied them. I thought their English skill would not improve in copying but I was little evil and kept showing them.     

For me, I guess I lacked courage to pursue the career out of it. And going to art school also need lots of money in buying ... yes ... expensive watercolor and all. I like how it is still my hobby but to be a professional you need to be above certain level I wasn't sure I could reach that since I lack imagination and free spirit. But the drawing friend I mentioned once said since I had not going through art school entrance exam I have developed my style, where art students in general in studying for certain skills their style tend to become similar and they have to start all over again to develop their original style.

Oh, you have hot brothers? I also look like my father everyone can recognize. With me and my brother, only resemblance is the phone voice. When I was young ppl kept asking whether I am my brother (even though I am a girl)   

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-11 17:43:09 +0000 UTC]

Haha, drawing friends, it wasnt really that much of drawing, we just doodled during breaks from time to time when we were kids coz it seemed fun XD otherwise I never really had friends who draw too, like a little bit more seriously or even as hobby or simply something

I was bullied actually quite often, in mental way, at first I didnt really notice it coz  I was small, but my mum did (she is one who told me lol) but in later years it kinda gotten worse, I dont really think they, my classmates wanted to bully me that time, it was really just that I lost all connections with them, no one talked to me....it was real bad actually, but only for me, I would get headache and stomach ache in mornings and it was simply horrible feeling to be surrounded by so many people and feel so much alone, this kinda stayed with me even now, and I suck at communication and relationships and pretty much everything, few years of isolations does miracles lol. but slowly, very slowly, Im becoming more of what I once was, at least I hope so, I actually feel less stressed and more at ease with people, I used to be more afraid of them, mostly when tehre was big group and I never could fit in, I was often forgotten...oh well whatever this is actually not interesting haha

Ah money, I think you need it for normal schools too...at least here but as I said, I decided not to go to art school, and now Im kinda glad seeing as one of my friends (prett much only I still have from older days) went to art school, its not your classical art school, they were more into photography and cinematic stuff and all but she changed a lot. I wouldnt want that, even though I think my surrounding wouldn affect me as much as it did her

Yeah I have very hot bros XD Ah I would get confused with almost anyone when picking phone, actually just recently, last month or so, I called my grandpa and he though it was my cousin calling him. the cousin Im talking about is like 4 years old boy . . . I was stunned that time XD

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-10-13 03:17:23 +0000 UTC]

In elementary my brother and I once doodled together. On a big paper, we draw a stick figured of a girl and a boy and draw a castle world for them. Then I watched him drawing something with a mouse on Windows paint program, which I forgot what it was. In middle school we all drew x-mas cards to our classmates and my brother cut small letters out of colored paper. He was a boy but so detail oriented. I would never do such a thing!

I am also not good at making friends. But having one friend is world of difference than having no friend. In college I had some problem with my health and got tired all the time and all I could do was attending lectures and let go of most of social activities. I had mostly only one friend and mostly they are kind of ppl who have so many friends that they have less bias with unsociable ppl. But then cats seem really satisfied with their life even by themselves. They easily get satisfied with small things and purrs. When you turn off the light at night and lie down on bed together she starts to purr.  I think they are simple and wise.

I am just referring small things like even a drawing paper just for doodling is expensive than mass produced copying paper (maybe because all has to be imported here). I am thinking if you are majoring art your skill would improve much. But then I also don't want drawing to be done from pounding your brain in stress and agony to drink a lot.

I also think pretty gene should come to girls than boys in the family. I don't care much personally really but generally speaking. Gee, confused with 4 yr old boy? But then in Japanese animation boys' voice actors are often done by women. But even then I guess it is not their normal voice, would it? 

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-17 14:25:53 +0000 UTC]

Haha I remember one time when i was smaller and my brother drew really beautiful mountail range and I was so focused on drawing, I was like I must surpass him! That was only thing he ever really drew but oh well XD 
It must have been nice to draw with your brother Ah christmas cards, we did that too, but we were supposed to do it for our parents instead

I wouldnt say Im bad at making friends, i actually remember having lots of friends as kid, but over these few years in ilsolation, I kinda forgot or something, have some kind of block, but I swear its getting better, slowly, but it is
Yeah having one good friend is worth having hundred so called friends... Oooh you already finished college? Or at least thats how it sounds...Now I have to wonder how old are you XD

Cats are cuties really, actually all animals I would say. I found it really cute when we had hamster and it would sleep with my brother. He held his hand out over the bad with hamster and actually sleep like that XD

Well yeah if you want products from other counttries it might be more expensive, but not really, I hear lots of people are buying things on net because its cheaper...but that depends on where you live I guess.  No matter how much agony or stress I wouldnt start drinking. Actually Im pretty proud that I have never in my life so far drank anything. I dont need it

Oh pretty gene, as you called it, is really nasty creature, it goes only to people who doesnt really need it! I swear XD
Yes with 4 years old. Sure they are dubbed by women, but most of the times I can recognize when its woman and when actually boy. But if it would be their normal voice...well small boys have bit girlish voices, I mean they get more manly voice after puberty and voice mutation and stuff no?

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-10-18 10:14:18 +0000 UTC]

Mountains ... wonder how good your brother drew. You also said you drew a nice mountains with your mouse. Hmm ... I never drew a mountain as a main theme. 
Well I hope you find some nice friend. I dunno it keeps harder after graduation to find friendship in general.
Well, my cat recently turned 15 years old so I am much older than that. Indoor cats live 18 years in average and I think times are running out in living with my cat. Haha, we grow old together.
Your brother sleep with the hamster? Oh, that is very unexpected. Gee, your brother had a nice bonding with the hamster
My two sketchbook, one is from US and the other is from France. Not even watercolor ones with thicker papers. Yeah, shipping fee costs more than the product unless I buy things a lot from US or Europe. I seldom does unless things are not sold here.
Well, I also somehow didn't fall into drinking. Maybe because I have my cat. She always reduce my feeling of hardship to half and make it bearable.  And she needs me. These days I drew more and it is nice to have a hobby you can fall into.
Yeah, I don't think brothers have to be prettier than their sisters.
I thought they are still different from girls but I don't have 4 year old boys around to check   
 

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-24 20:36:29 +0000 UTC]

My bro drew it fabulously XD thats how I remember it haha but its juts memory
actually that was one of very few background things I did XD
eh is it harder to find friends really? I think I kinda found a friend, I am able to talk for hours with her XD its real fun
15 years old, its it like a lot for a cat?
He used to sleep with it sometimes it was really cute...but hamsters are no more, too long stories and too many of them? We had lot of hamsers XD I still remember the name of the one he used to sleep with, Johny XD
I dont think that drinking would help me with any hardships, I simply dont like the taste, and when I tell this to others they are like "you're not supposed to liek it anyway, that would be alcoholism" and then I wonder, if they dont like the taste at least, why do they drink it then? I mean it taste horribly, you have headache and you puke and whoknowswhat and you wont remember a thing in morning most of the time...its pretty useless I think

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-10-26 22:25:00 +0000 UTC]

So he does not draw anymore? My brother once drew a large portrait of him referencing from a photo of himself taken from a mountain top. He doesn't like doing sports but he seemed to like that photo with refreshing face. He also doesn't draw anymore. I used to drew self portraits looking at a mirror in the middle of studying. I think I had drawn mostly from reference from photo or life than freely from imagination. I guess it is not that natural for me to actively imagining things than observe things in drawing. 
I think people's life are more focused on finding a committed relationship like marriage or getting/doing their job than finding new friends to hangout. I guess you can still make few friends but generally new people would expect some benefit (what you can offer) than friendship. You yourself also would be more busy with different things calling for attention too.
15 yr old cat, I just looked it up and it's 76 yrs old in human age. Oh gee  , she is not that active and her body lost muscles, but her coat is still shiny and she still has cute face. No wrinkles.
Johny ... nice name. Have you every drawn a hamster before?
Koreans esp guys drink a lot. What I observe is, unlike chatty and talkative girls, they don't talk personal things unless they drink. I guess it could be cultural things. After freshman year lots of guys' skins gone bad from drinking and smoking and they don't look like high school kid anymore. Like you, I also have bad aftermath than enjoyment from it so I'd rather not drink. The friend a mentioned who always wear mini-skirts drinks beer everyday. She suffers from atopic skins. She only eats organic and use organic cosmetics, and at this stage I don't think she can quit from persuasion. My drawing friend went to art school already had liver problem in college. I guess it is not a good habit to get into.

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-10-28 20:45:28 +0000 UTC]

Nah he doesnt, he only did that one thing and maybe doodles when he is bored but he usually plays football or hockey on computer XD its even like it was his hobby or anything, he just kinda did it that once...its more like you know when you're kid you simply draw, all kids draw....so he was slightly older and did draw....
Observng skills are actually very important, they let you inderstand the important points of what you're drawing and then its should be easier to draw from imagination
Hmm our university students are more focused on finding place to drink than marriage and stuff, its like these things are on hold until you find job and so on, while you are still in school, you pretty much a kid, at least here
Ah I actually found lots of new people here, today one boy talked to me suddenly, he has PE class with me, and we just happened to meet in bus without knowing each others names or anything, it was kinda fun XD
Hmm yes there are people who would look for benefits but not everyone is like that, when I talk to new people I usually dont have any other motives other than to actually talk XD And so far I have enough time to make friends I guess....not enough when its test week haha
I think I did draw hamster few times but it never looked like one coz I only drew him from imagination, never studied it, so yeah, there is great difference between when I draw from imagination without study and with it
Lots of people are more chatty when drunk, its not cultural, its simply alcohol XD but I think people in general are less talkactive than older generations, its liek we kinda forgetting how to communicate even though we have such great technology that let s talk to anybody anywhere and yet we cant talk to person thats right next to us

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-11-01 13:25:12 +0000 UTC]

My brother is also more into playing computer games like Civilization or Starwars than doing actual sports. Then watch a tv show doing the computer games, which I don't understand. 
What I meant was about life after graduation so make friends while in school. It is nice to get to know new ppl and you seem doing well
Drawing well from reference is a skill. But I have some admiration who could draw well from imagination like dreamy, fantasy or medieval stuffs.
I want to see your drawing mountains or a hamster some day Hamsters ..., aren't they die too soon and have lots of babies?
I don't know girls could get easily talkative over a cup of coffee or a meal. Yeah, many ppl seem to anxious to look at their phone whenever they have some minutes to spare. I guess it's much different from writing a letter or a postcard than txt messaging in real time.            
 
  

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-11-14 14:15:48 +0000 UTC]

Seems like our brothers are quite lazy XD
Then again, Im not that active either haha
I still find it pretty easy to find friends even after graduating and all...I just need to look at my mum, she is able to make friends anywhere, literally!
It will be long time till I will draw mountain or hamster...well I will draw squirell quite a lot in a while...long while..
I wouldnt say they die soon, but they have hella lot of babies, and we always bought a couple so we had dozens of them in the end!
I find writting a letter or postcard acceptable, coz I cant imagine someone, in bar or somewhere, suddenly taking out paper to start writing it, while on the other hand, people play around with mobiles all the time, when Im out, I try to look at my phone the least I can, but I cant stop others as effectively

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-11-15 15:27:54 +0000 UTC]

(The name of the game my brother plays is Starcraft, not Starwars). I guess they are, haha.  
My mom also has lots of friends. She says the key is you have to contact first to keep in touch. She also makes new friends in hiking out of strangers. I am not sure but there is a saying woman after giving birth becomes more bold about facing the world than before. But then my mom must have lots of friend before as well. 
I'd like to see your mountain drawing Is it more of a mountain near your place or more from your imagination? Squirrel? New character in you manga?
A dozen of hamsters. Wow! You guys must have lots of cages for them. What do they usually eat?
Like writing online, one has more opportunity to express oneself even anonymously if one wants. That might help to develop one's talking skill. Not talking in persons, though. My mother used to not like drawing as a hobby since it is done alone, compared to playing instruments or sports. But now with dA ppl can communicate more about their drawings even in hobbyist levels and I think it's great. 

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-11-30 20:11:45 +0000 UTC]

I think generally as you get older and experience new things you will naturally get bolder, well it depens on your personality too and other things but still...I was actually pretty bold as child, then stopped at some point and now Im getting into it again haha 
that mountain, it was just from my imagination, though we do have quite nice mountail ranges too, but I like to just let my imagination take the lead with things like these
Squirrel, yeah, very very important one, so when you see him (in few years probably lol) then be awared that the second part of Trabita started haha
We only had one cage, but quite big one, until they didnt breed againa and duh, well they we gave some of them to other poeple to keep them they eat hamster food? XD sun seeds, they will eat any kind of vegetable or fruit, we often gave them apples or carrots, it was so cute XD
I have to say my commication skills got a boost when i started interacting over the internet, I mean I was nervous when I was sending online message too haha that was disaster actually, I would sit 15 minutes before my notebook thinking what to write, but even after I got used to writing online and such, I still had quite troubles with real life talk, coz you cant think before hand what you say usually, like when you write, I figured that the advice that I found when I tried searching for how to get better at drawing or writing would help here to, it went like to get better at something you have to actzally practice it, do it... so I kinda did it
hmm but there are sports or instruments you play alone too !

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2015-12-04 12:23:18 +0000 UTC]

I think your bold self is still inside you I had got more self-conscious when I was in college as well. But now a days, I am more of thinking people don't care/concern about others' every detailed move or words that much, unless they are dealing with close or loved ones. My city is crowded with too many ppl not like a countryside. And especially, when everyone is immersed into their phones wherever they go. I guess  you'd better save energy for doing what you like and less worry about how others would see you. 
Squirrels do not become a character that often. I am curios how you would portray them
Do you have any photos of them? 
I was more hesitated about showing my drawings to the world. It is too personal like a journal and kept to myself for so long. Now I am glad I did started uploading them and I enjoy talking about them with others.  And of course writing comments about others' works. There are many times not sure my works is good or not especially trying new things. And if at least one person says like it I feel much better I do also get good advice in dA. There must be lots of thing I don't know. I draw more often now a days than before and buy more pens and ink since I have more excuse in buying them
That is true, and if you run or ride bike alone. 
 

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2015-12-30 13:17:30 +0000 UTC]

Haha maybe it really is inside me, my bold self, who knows, understanding myself is as hard as understanding other people for me XD And I think you are rght in that poeple dont care that much about what other poeple do, I only notice things when Im trying to notice, when Im observing poeple, thing this and that would be cool to draw or add in story XD
Im currios how I will draw my squirell as well, as I never drawn one, but oh well, there is still time. but as a character, he will be, an interesting and as dense as other I guess, when I was writing Trabita, I had this problem, that when writing, all my characters started with some personality, but ended up with personality similliar to main hero, coz I wants able to keep them consistent, but im trying to get over this in my new stories
Photos of my hamsters? urgh, I might have had some long time ago, but I think they got deleted at some point, now that I think about it, what a pity, they were cuties
I was hestitating about showing my art too, but I dont really remember what made do it in the end, althought before some time, I was even shy writing on internet, so I clearly rememebred that my first posted pictures were accompanied with 5 minutes long debate with myself whether I really should push the post button XD
There are always tons of things you dont know, and I find that quite thrilling myself XD

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2016-01-02 06:06:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, even now you are not so shy about choosing your drawing subjects. Or being a pirate in dA  
There is people actually purposefully harassing other people but if you are a victim than you might need someone else's kind (or professional) help. Other than that, generally you have to ignore little things or imagined things. Many would not aware, their little gesture could hurt someone. For girls, spending times chatting. My mom used to be my best friend but there are times she doesn't understand what I have to deal with. Drawings, outdoor activities, eye shopping or spending time with pets, you have to let go of bad things happen in life so it might not influence you deeply. You deserve a happy life
I have similar problems. Many characters have started lighthearted but become serious when facing problems. And I don't know how to make a evil character or antagonist. There are some candidates but I have wrote nothing about bad characters. I guess I need to figure things out and that might help developing plots. 
Yeah, more you draw or write, there are lots of things that need to be learned

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2016-01-27 14:01:35 +0000 UTC]

Eh well I claim that I will draw anything so I cant be picky with subects lol, anyway its pretty much fun so far, being pirate and all aye aye
Haha my mum is pretty much my best friend too, but I consider my cousin one of my besties too but from time to time suprisingly its my cousin who is my age that wont really understand my mindset, mostly about school and all, coz I am super motivated for learning and school is almost like passtime for me, no real stressing so I often get these "are you mad" looks from my peers haha
Hehe you deserve happy life too :3
aaah its not really that they get all serious, my characters I mean, its more like, for example in Alex's story there were many characters that were either serious, schemming or something else and when I was writing I suddenly noticed they all act like Alex, which was acting like stubborn idiot, it was like I was so focused on Alex's personality that it inflenced other characters as well
Besides character in longer stories tent to chance and there is absolutelly nothing wrong if they start off as lighthearted and then become serious due to problems, thast actually pretty good and it makes sense, while my characters started goofing around out of nowhere
Take your time with your antagonist and treat him with care, after all if not you who will love him XD well i will coz bad guys are simply bad guys

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2016-01-30 05:13:33 +0000 UTC]

Crossing one's boundaries and comfort zone could be called bold, right? Being a pirate seems to change you mood to your old self. I am not sure I could be just another cat. Curious and scaredy cat. 
I also like in learning new concepts and ideas. Problem would be I'd rather move on to the next new area than dig more deep into one thing. I'd rather self taught on my own on whims than going to a class. Exception would be I had spend much time in learning English. I remember the first time I could understand English movie without subtitles. I was so happy and couldn't believe myself. I was at high school and my mom struggled to keep me away from watching US channel on TV. Since I joined dA, there is a prospect I would delve more into drawings.
Yeah, hope we both find healthy way to happiness
My brother and I have some serious sides. He'd involved in group activities early on like UNICEF or NGO and I'd rather escape from all ugliness of real life. Influenced by my brother, I once joined a Christian school program to meet serious people but very disappointed in the end. I like how religious people pursue truth and ideal but unfortunate events put me to observe many of their personal true human nature in facing difficulties. In the beginning, most were very admirable when seen from a distance. However, many had turned out too stubborn and narrow minded, thinking I am doing God's work. I mean there are many ways to the goal. I also had scientists' open mindset like their theory is true until proved otherwise. Anyway, I feel my characters becoming serious could be basically coming from me.  So the scenes become similar like main characters usually a youngster arguing with a person in high position. Haha. As a result, two got imprisoned and one of which practically got exiled afterwards, one ran away and one case other side gave up so far. Very similar patterns. While side characters are doing this, Lisson is still looking for reason to start his adventure. Today I read my notebook about my Elf Kingdom waiting for Lisson to discover   Now I think I made Lisson as an innocent character and no one to make a conflict with. On the other hand, my newer character Mattias has nicer father and expect to have different story lines. As with drawings, I started to write to avoid real life but I think I need to learn and analyse different type of personalities so they may act/react differently in making decisions. There are so many things to learn like in medieval period or fantasy world. About disability character like Mattias. Somehow all of them are male characters. haha. Angels don't have gender but. I don't want to put a girl in trouble, or I subconsciously like imagining about guys.  I think I need a goofing character, too
You must be right. Although, I don't feel any affection. I wrote little bit about one antagonist who is going to harassing Lisson's father. Perhaps if I know him better as I write more.            

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2016-02-19 14:55:15 +0000 UTC]

I still remember the time when I started to learn english in primary school and I got like zero points in tests all the time, in two or three years teachers called me dictionary coz whenever they asked something I knew the answer O.o Bless you anime and manga for not being translated to slovak XD
Im pretty much self taught too but I would like to have classes, like art class for example, because I could get some professional feed back of some sort, also I would meet other people who draw in person and its new experience but there are many of these over here or at least Im not avare and I guess I wouldnt have time to go to art classes since I have my hands full with university (welllll not that full but Im slightly lazy haha)
Ah well people are never as they seem I guess, everyone has many faces and it depends on situations and such things, so they might not necesarily be bad people but in the situation that occured made them that way or something, and yeah I guess there are christians who are too narrow minded, I actually know one person like that and Im not really fond of him, well there are simply things he does that seem bit over the top
Haha characters' seriousness is surelly coming from you, who else? you are their creator and characters tent to have lots of common things with the author as they take the author's ideal thoughts and such
And as for things being similiar, well most of my main characters in stories and teen males who are bit dense -.- its like my personal pattern or something lol (but I do have few different cases heh)
Yes making them act differently is very good idea, which Im trying to do too :´D well trying
You should put at least some girl, like background characters, to make it seem more real no?
Oooh antagonist, Im looking forward to hearing about him more

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2016-02-27 11:42:42 +0000 UTC]

Your learning speed is amazing  I did like US or British Pop songs so I read lyrics, and English bibles when in school. English bible was easier to understand than Korean versions. One of our version sounds really serious using old expressions. I like the sounds of it. Like God is speaking to you. Even though now a days no one speaks like that or using those vocabularies. Newer versions are easier to understand but sounds like a easy novel than a bible. You flip the pages than read one verses at a time. English one NIV have been quite right for me.
Speaking of a bible, for my angel characters and their God(s), I bought KJV bible. That language used seems quite right for them since they existed before human creation, elf or dragon. I mean I kind of understand what they are saying than older English sounds like a foreign language. I did read using old expression in a novel like, thou (you), art (are) and etc. is not a good thing. But I liked it even though I may not comfortable in writing in that way. That is why I bought KJV bible so I could get used to those expressions. It could have been a Shakespeare but. Then if I figure out these and comfortably write dialogues in KJV ways; I need to think more on using old expressions heavily would decrease readability and using less might annoy readers who knows how to use old expressions. Then I don't read bibles like I did in the college anymore. But my real problem was more with there is no gender-less singular pronouns in English. Like, two angels have some feelings to each other, I like it to sounds Platonic with heavy consequences (for eternity). But if I say 'he hugged him,' it really sounds like a gay love. I saw unofficially 'they, them' could be used genderless singular pronouns but that ones I really don't get comfortable reading them. It sounds weird? And I don't know where to get enough examples to study. That point my angel stories kind of stopped because of technical difficulties. Unlike experimenting different mediums in drawings using up one paper, changing your style or methods triggers whole lot of pages needing to be rewritten in that style. I know, what kind of Pandora's box had I opened up for myself  Studying for KJV grammar and expression sounded fun but I don't dig into it these days. But what do I do with singular 'they'?     
I had watched lots of anime years back and my Japanese listening skill has improved so I can understand some. There are lots of Korean subtitles available for them here as well. So no reading skills were affected. It would be nice if I can read Japanese novels not translated. I bought a fantasy novel series written by Japanese Korean; its background is Korea when we had a dynasty and wears traditional clothes. And a girl seems like a main character. I had read 4 pages so far and put off. Their Kanji is quite different from our way of using Chinese characters, even though their grammar a bit similar.
I am not sure why I don't go to art classes. I would go to a class if I want to learn to play instrument or learn to ride snow board since I would not figure out by myself.
I'd rather go to art exhibitions or museums comfortably. I guess I was not aiming for improvement (like these days) than (already) having fun drawing Nabi. It was kind of personal escapism from life than get involved with others or committed to going to a class. That is why my painting/coloring skills are lacking compared to pen/pencil drawings, haha These days, I like watching Youtube regarding narrow subjects I want to learn. I guess English skill helps in this regards in learning by myself.    
I don't like semi biographical novels resembles too much real life complexity and hardship. Although I like traveling story. I chose a fantasy genre and I was creating angels, elves, a squire (little version of knight) in my way. I found main characters have part of me since that is what I know. That is not something I intended in the beginning. I feel embarrassed in revealing too much of me. It feels like I am studying me from the 3rd view. 
There are some background female characters like somebody's girl friends, mothers, a grandma and a sister. There is a kind of female angel even in that genderless race and she could be a strong character but she only stays in heaven so far. I wanted a female fallen angel on earth as one of antagonist but she is still like a background character.
I haven't written much. Lisson's father's antagonist is the clan leader's son living in a castle but they started their relationship when they were little really badly (actually Lsson's aunt Isoda think so because he was too little to judge things). I guess bad memories linger even though both in their brain knows that had happened without a bad intent. The antagonist must hate him (perhaps because Isoda outright hate him) even though they try to act as if nothing had happened; they have to live everyday life with their clan people, who kind of know each other and related, so Lisson's father thinks he should be forgiving. But eventually both of them make a decision that is adverse to each other as they grow up. Perhaps he could make decisions adverse to Lisson as well when he comes to the elf kingdom.    

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2016-03-28 15:48:19 +0000 UTC]

Haha yeah I guess Im fast learner, for english it was mostly because I watched and read so many mangas and watched  anime, in english, rather than  my native language (or czech ), thats because english subs came out first haha, I was impatient. You should have seen me thought, I had one page opened at manga/anime and other page was always some vocabulary page in time of need XD there were times when I spend more time searching for meaning than actually reading, but at least I had some sort of motivation, I used the same method when I wanted to get better with spanish before my exams (becase graduating form one foreign language isnt enough for me, unlike other people)
Iiiii have to say I never really read bible, at least definitelly not whole, and yet for some reason Im katholic and know its content XD its miracle I must say, and yes old english sounds really cool, but I am unable to use it properly
As for "they" and "them", it might sound weird to you but its actually commonly used, our teacher actually forced us to use it when we were talking about someone, but in general, she didnt like us saying he and she, when we were talking about basically nobody specific...but then again "they hugged them" sounds ridiculous... you could go with using either he or she, like even if they are genderless they can prefer being called one of these?
YOu are lucky to be able to read at least these 4 pages in japanese, I first had to struggle with hiragana and katakana (and I feel I forgot it again coz I was busy and didnt revise) not to mention kanji XD I know maybe 10? I can get the meaning when I hear them talking in anime, but even that is not really how actual japanese talk, they make it sound kind of easier or something like that, I was on anime con and during one of lectures that were there they talked exactly about this
Giving something from you to your characters is never really intentional, I think, I often realize it after I actaually created and wrote story, for example, just yesterday I noticed that the way Simon deals with hardship or his own feelings is exactly the same as I do unconsciously (coz Im not even sure how I deal with it )and I never really meant for that to happen
Wow Lisson's father's story seems quite complicated for me right now, but about not being able to judge and knowing about that it was not bad intent, I like that, it makes it real, because these things actually happen, Ah if he leaves the decision on Lisson...well poor boy, one more thing to deal with haha

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2016-03-31 21:50:41 +0000 UTC]

I learned German as my second foreign language and I was good at it but had no usage at all in real life. I wish I attended different high school for a new public school had young teachers teaching Japanese and Chinese. The high schools were assigned randomly. In college, I chose Japanese first but switched to German because many Hiragana characters had looked same to me back then Still I need reference to read katakana. I have a grammar book, a kanji dictionary and an expression book for reference, and use online Japanese dictionary. Wow, you went to anime con? I don't know about the kanji talking differently in speaking language. I heard a Korean guy had learned to speak from anime and his professor asked why he was using girl's expressions
I also haven't read the bible as a whole. I haven't read the prophets on the old testament. But had made several attempt to read the old testament to start from Genesis. I like Joseph's dream story but Genesis I read several times. I guess many bible stories were learned in Sunday school when very little I want to use old English in angels' dialogues only. I really like my angel guy but I haven't touched about angel stories for some time.
I made Angels don't make babies but God creates them individually as needed. Perhaps, I may not use my angel guy's love story part. I don't know, we call individual animal 'it' even though they have genders. I really feel uncomfortable using he or she to angels in my story.  
About Simon got depressed, after Lisson's father faced with his antagonist's blow, he got kind of depressed as well. He is naive and had tried to find good side of him even though his sister had outright hated him. Sometimes, I wonder I am giving him too much feminine side of me, even though he is a male character. Guys should be tougher at least from the outside but then I feel they also fall more easily into addtions. I hate male authors portray women character as males would please, kind of like in the direction a rapist thinking his victim would be pleased as well. It just proves I don't know much about other people than myself when it comes to decision makings and feelings inside. I usually don't care what other people thinks and like to stay in my own world. I mean there would be whole different kinds of people as many as whole population of people in the world past present and future. Or human natures are not so different in times and places? I don't know, I should take more liking to watch documentaries of common people.
It is just they are fated (by me, author) to be uncompatible (opposite of soulmates). I thought if you have some bad past the scale would have more chance to tip to that direction in the moment of indecision. If Lisson's father is not a match to his antagonist, I don't know how Lisson would face him. Haha, poor boy indeed!  

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lovablepirate In reply to nabi767 [2016-06-07 14:35:23 +0000 UTC]

I have had german in primary school, but I dont remember much from it, actually I thought about learning it again this summer, because Im finally free! 
You had enough luck to actually be able to choose japanese somehere thats better than our choices, we get to choose from european languages only
Yes yes I went to con with my cousin, three great days, so many people, so many cosplays, I didnt think there would be that many and few very real high quality Lol he was using girl's expressions? poor guy, should have learned more or watch more shounen anime XD
Well as angels are supposed to be genreles not being able to make babies seems right...also if you are talking about angles in third person, you dont need to say he, she nor them, say their names, adress them by describing them or something like that (I feel like I already said that at some point..oh well)
I think there are as many natures as there are humans, sure some might look same, but in the end you cant have two exactly same people no? But yes portraing a man is kind of hurrdle to overcome..my boys always are bit wimpy...well Im giving them quite tragic past and complexes but even though they are not as strong as guy might have looked like I dont really thinks thats girly...actually most of men are more romantic tham women...most of romantic novels are written by men..but studying on humans is always good thing to do
True strenght is when you have had bad past and what not to happen to you and everyone would have guessed that you would incline to the wrong path and yet you choose the right one no? but then again no one is perfect and wrong path is soo sooo tempting >: D haha let Lisson run from father's antagonist..that should solve everything..surelly, think about your poor boy

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nabi767 In reply to lovablepirate [2016-06-09 16:38:18 +0000 UTC]

You feel like learning German again? What kind of usage do you think it has? Reading their philosophy books? There was a time I was interested in their philosophers Adorno and Nietzsche. Still has some unread books by them. There are German literature as well.
Oh, really? No Arabic or Russian? The Korean and English subtitles are readily available for manga or anime that I don't have much urgent need to learn Japanese. I'd like to read Japanese or French those untranslated books but I'd rather put more time in writing stories in English and drawings.
I am guessing the cousin you always mention is one and the same person. I think I would need to go to Japan if I wanted to go to comic con. I have just seen in anime how crowds of people go there to pack the huge place. Perhaps the guy spoke like a girl learned from playing too much Japanese dating games?
Addressing the angels in 3rd person by their names, description seems like a good advice Their description, I haven't thought about that. I like the concept of my fallen angel antagonist but somehow it is hard to make any story ideas for her to be a deserving antagonist. She likes to disguise as a girl in human forms. i don't know why it is hard to make a female antagonist to do big scale havoc or for her to have an world class ambition. Somehow I have a gender bias girls are satisfied or concerned with little things around her. 
What you are saying most guys are more romantic must be right. Unless a girl has established herself in society already, like economic independence. I haven't really consciously thought about that. I guess Eoin is romantic and idealistic. Lisson's father is different. Does Alex has a love interest? I don't really get why boys likes dinosaurs, insects, cars and robots. Liking of somewhat destructive or cruelty to play destroying toy buildings, taking off the wings of dragon flies, or crashing toy cars. In creating believable characters of opposite sex, i admire the creator of Full Metal Alchemist. I feel they were created by an male author lots of good fight actions. Stories are also really good and solid with big scales and long histories, and all the side characters are good as well. 
If protagonist and its antagonist both have their true strength and still can create conflicts between them that would be great. Lisson's father and his antagonist are not mature enough even though they have lived long (in human standards). I am not sure what the antagonist will be like by the time Lisson's father is gone, much less when Lisson appears without his father. Just the whole clan is not ready to welcome him because of his human blood. I guess Lisson could run since his father is not there and Lisson and Eoin don't speak Elvish. I have much idea about nearing they meet for the first time and afterwards. 

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