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NAngel1298 In reply to Doctor-Roberty [2008-11-30 02:33:38 +0000 UTC]

Not to correct you.... but how many star destroyers did the empire have?..., and what where all of thier names

This one is the Executioner

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Doctor-Roberty In reply to NAngel1298 [2008-11-30 19:09:05 +0000 UTC]

Not to get into a war or anything lol BUT, the Excecutor was the only one stationed at the second Death Star.


AAAnyway as this is your own creation it dosnt matter. Still a good piccy.

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NAngel1298 In reply to davidcsimon [2006-03-20 17:20:44 +0000 UTC]

For the most part..... The executioner was slightly modified from an existing model, and the Tie Ints were a drastic redo from a very old model.

I don't like starting from scratch if I don't have too... It's way to time consuming.

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davidcsimon In reply to NAngel1298 [2006-03-21 01:30:10 +0000 UTC]

Then perhaps you should give credit to those who made the original models?

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NAngel1298 In reply to davidcsimon [2006-03-27 17:04:51 +0000 UTC]

OK--- you get an Idea for a drawing, or artwork, from a sketch on a napkin- do you give the sketcher the credit for thier work? Say you aquire a model with no skin, missing parts, and/or poorly built - to the piont of having to spend a day puzzleing it together.... although it saved you a months worth of work building it from scratch - it still does not merit credit.

If I download a model, that did not require work to liberate, or modify to bring it up to usable standards - the person really deserves the credit. Otherwise, I am the one that has made it noteworthy, detailed and modified by my hand, and created the work of art....

Let me give credit now and make all those modelers like me happy - reguardless of the detail, effort, or limits they ended their work at, and I continued -

Here goes:
Some Guy on the net : thanks for the structure from which I created this cool object
Some other guy on the net: Thanks for other stuff I have had to alter to help create this work of art.... you have saved me weeks of work with your skinless, simplified low poly model. I know that the work you have put in to this was time consuming... because I model too.

I also would like to point out to those of you whom create art by just downloading, inserting, and rendering.... that there is no... absolutely no reason not to give credit where credit is due.... the image is still yours, and the placement and effects are a wonderful addition......... most modelers have the skill to model but couldn't make a scene come to life... so congrats on your skill to do what they couldn't. But remember to give credit where credit is due.


Now.... If this does not satisfy you desire to crop my works down to spacific details only done by me.... my next work, I promise to list everything I've done down to the most minute detail, and list all the parts, parcels, images, Ideas, or concepts, that I may have borrowed tidbits from to come up with my masterpieces, and give credit, even to those individuals that posted thier items (If I even noted them) as a simple, low poly, no map object. Hey and while I'm at it.... lets thank all those who invented computers, the software, the precepts of art, and those who first recognized and named geometric shapes.... I would also like to thank GOD, with whom all things are possible, my parents for bothering to have sex and concieve me, and also the guy who invented the internet....... did I forget anyone, there are so many.... Oh ya... George Lucas for obvious reasons...

You know.... I'm a modeler too.... I' don't like it whem people take credit for my work.... I would not do that to anyone either.... In this instance, I do not remember who or where the original concept model originated. I do have over 100 gigs of the stuff...

Now for a question for you... did you model your star destroyer from scratch, or did you take an existing star destroyer, and modify it to get your design?
Now you want to be careful how you answere the question.... you said that this is your original design, not your original model. If you built this from scratch, and spent a lot of time in the process, you can feel good that it is 100% yours down to the last polygon.... however, I would be more impressed, if you told me that you took an existing star destroyer and modified it to this point, deriving the same results, in a tenth the time, and it would still be 100% your design, and could or could not give credit to the maker of the original star destroyer.... fact is.... Lucas Arts gets the credit for that no mater who took the time to build it.

Now... did you like being questions under a microscope about you work, and preasured to proove that your the artist, or even have it implied that your not..... Unless your the artist whose model is being used without recognition, have the common curtesy not to be insulting. I have the decency to assume the work is original, or at least accept the work if its good without the audacity of questioning the individual about the originality......

Very uncouth....

I do like your star destroyer.... cool concept, and very detailed.... impressive, most impressive...

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davidcsimon In reply to NAngel1298 [2006-03-28 06:30:13 +0000 UTC]

Thankyou for your kind comments regarding my Star Destroyer, and yes I modelled it from scratch - every single polygon is my own work. I started with a single cube and moved on from there, using only a plastic assembly model kit of a regular Star Destroyer to guide me.

It may seem pedantic, but I believe that everyone who has contributed to a work of art (intentionally or not) ought to be credited, unless they have explicitly stated that they do not require credit. If you are uncertain as to whether credit is due or not, then I think you should err on the side of caution and be very explicit about which elements are your own work and which are not. Otherwise people might think that you are pretending to be something you are not.

I say this because there are so many images on DA which are simply Photo-manips of other people's work, or minor adjustments to stock models, and yet the artists' descriptions of the work is so vague that one can easily be fooled into imagining that they made it all from scratch. I take no offense when people ask me how much of my work is original, because I go out of my way to say when it isn't. It takes more effort on my part, especially when it comes to stock images, but I think it's only fair considering the effort it saved me in the first place.

Eg: SciFi3D have very clear instructions on what they regard as minimal acceptable credit for people who use their public domain models.

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NAngel1298 In reply to CryingDoom [2005-06-20 12:21:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks... Glad you like

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NAngel1298 In reply to Rogue-00 [2005-06-14 20:16:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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