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Description Study for Torpedo Squid- my upcoming creation- A couple quick sketches here and there then going to draw this guy on large board.
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zypherax [2010-05-28 23:43:46 +0000 UTC]

I am guessing that this cephalopod is meant to fly, correct?

in that case, the animal's velocity would cause the stalked eyes to remain in the position they are in now, and because they face backward, unlike those of modern squid, I doubt it would be able to precieve objects in front of it...

just a thought....

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NEGOXE357 In reply to zypherax [2010-05-29 00:05:41 +0000 UTC]

It is not flying variant, it's still water bound. However, the idea of flying squid is great- I'll keep that in mind. It is very plausible concept because in South Caicos, our friends were hit by flying squids. I might draw other one with that concept in mind.

Eyes would fold in when fleeing, as you would see it has ocular cavity. Only thing I think I should have reworked is the position of the wing which made it seems irrelevant in the direction of flee.

I made eyes small that way because it may be biologically impossible to have gigantic eyes if I'm going to draw him at 40 feet length. It is a envision I had for Earth in 20 millions years when megashark once again return. It may be necessary for squid to have extreme meaning of flee- inks only works to some degree however sharks with their further evolved electro-sense, ink would have futile purpose.

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zypherax In reply to NEGOXE357 [2010-05-29 02:22:42 +0000 UTC]

ah, I drew a flying squid quite some time ago... I believe it's 'wings' were extremly elongated and improbable, but... well, everything I drew last year is terrible when I look back at it now... haha... who's friends?

oh, allright, that makes sense then...

yep, I agree with you concernig the eye's size (the large size of the eyes in 'the future is wild''s rainbow squid always bothered me...), I was simply worried about their position.

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NEGOXE357 In reply to zypherax [2010-05-29 02:33:08 +0000 UTC]

Pop in that squid you did last year- would love to see it!

My friend, I mean A couple of Marine Biologists from School of Field Studies. It's summer course I took in 2001 I think.

Eyes is rather a delicate topic that is often speculated too much. I simply with to point out to people, like blue whale- it's eyes are small in proportional to it's body. Size do not really matter as long it has basic function like seeing light and shapes, distance, etc. Larger eyes would defeat the purpose as it would be damaged easily from surround debris, attack, etc.

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zypherax In reply to NEGOXE357 [2010-05-29 14:28:06 +0000 UTC]

haha, it's toward the back of my galery somewhere... I also drew a terrible bipedal 'land squid'. XD

ah, allright... I've always wanted to take a marine biology class, but I fear it would delve too far into complicated mathematics and thus bore me before I acctualy get the chance to study any interesting specimines...

indeed, why do you think I generaly do away with them? and I was agreeing with you about the eyes earlier... I find gigantic eyes to be implausable, if not impossible. a large organ composed of a gelatenous mass such as that would surley be prone to damage, and possible internal colapse...

and I really need to learn how to spell properly...

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NEGOXE357 In reply to zypherax [2010-05-29 19:41:21 +0000 UTC]

Cool- I'll look in your gallery for that flying squid I do have land squid in my gallery, it's a quick sketch, though.

I don't know which marine biology you are interested, there are dozens of fields within marine biology. Mathematics are part of marine biology where they do chemical analysis. I'm not in that, I'm specialized in coral reef conservation which require very small amount of math analysis, most mathematics problem I do in that would be statistics and charts. Lucky, it's most fun where you get to be underwater 1/2 of time and working with corals. You'll be assessing ecological damage which may require some estimating but not much of math involved, mostly hypothetical and prediction.

Don't worry about spelling, I used to be great speller but as of late, I'm getting real bad I'll like to see more of "Future is Wild," I felt they did not really cover all aspects of possible evolution and the series were a bit sparse in my taste. I'm something of "show the full progression of evolution, branches, etc" person. The scientists who worked as consultants on that show should have given creatures final review after the CG team is done with creating the creatures. I think they got all information then made the show and did not double check the "plausibility" of each evolutions. There's a lot of people out there still criticize the show.... Oh well, everyone hypothesize differently from others. I'm glad we're agreed on the eyes part.

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zypherax In reply to NEGOXE357 [2010-05-29 20:23:31 +0000 UTC]

well, I have a interest in the inhabitants of our planet's depths... I mean, the abysal plain and whatnot... but in order to study organisms of that sort, I was told by a teacher of mine that I would need to compleet a vigirous course concerning mathematics and whatnot over several years, and it was unlikley that I would be alowed to acctualy make observations from a deep sea submersiable... and so, I decided to draw more often, and I am now planning on a quasi sucessfull career in the feild of entertainment design and concept art... and I hope to publish a few speculative xenobiological illustrated novels as well.

yes, I have been told that a second season of that show is being made, so I do hope it will be more scientificaly plauasable than the first...

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NEGOXE357 In reply to zypherax [2010-05-29 20:38:12 +0000 UTC]

What is stopping you from living your dream Sometime teacher can be wrong or over-speculate stuff, if you want to observe thing from depth- that is something highly possible versus space travel. A couple friends of mine had the opportunity of riding a DSV, it was something like on wait list but actually, that is something possible within next few decades for "tourism."

I'm marine biologist myself and I share the same goals as you do, illustrate conceptual creatures from wherever. I see you're going Wayne's path like me I'm also writing an illustrated novel about Fyoria IV. It can take years, tho. You can see several creatures in my gallery from my journey on Fyoria IV.

You're serious? They're going to make more of Future is Wild? Not the cartoon version? If you really like those, you should check out the "Walk with dinosaur, prehistoric animal, etc" series. I really love those shows.

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zypherax In reply to NEGOXE357 [2010-05-31 12:53:35 +0000 UTC]

haha, it WAS my dream! XD I still have a large interest in creatures from the ocean's depths, I watch nearly any discoverey special concerning them, and I own several books on the topic, but I have come to realise that I am an artist far more than I am a scientist of any sort... oh, sure, I atytempt to ensure that the majority of my concepts are scientificaly plausable, but as much as I have a love for biological science, I have a greater desire to explore my own artistic enterprises. I suppose I'll just wait for the tourist years... XD

indeed, you see well! I shall look at those... while, as I said, I would really enjoy exploring the unknown, searching for fantastical creatures, I find it to be far mor satisfying for me to devout all of my time to dreaming up what could be out there... rather that simply dreaming on the sidelines, if that makes any sense...

yes, on thier website it says that a second season of the doccumantary is in the works... although I don't know when it's meant to air... and a film of sorts is being made as well.

I remember those! I think I have both of those series on vhs somewhere, although I no longer have a vhs player...

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NEGOXE357 In reply to zypherax [2010-06-01 00:11:39 +0000 UTC]

Heh, cool- biology isn't hard to learn but it can take time. The biggest key to become a good artist is knowledge of biology, just superficial knowledge would be sufficient as long you understand skeleton structure, anatomy, muscle curvature, etc. Remember, old masters like Leonardo Da Vinci and Michaelago paid their local churchs to allow for them to enter the mortuary so they would study the cadavers. Morbid interest, indeed (Probably not relevant but interesting fact) Anyway, I'm sure with a good biology or zoology textbook you'll manage to pick up a lot than you would expect.

Wayne Barlowe did the same, lucky him, his parents were illustrators for the natural history museum but you can see where his intense knowledge of biology originated from and how it actually push him further to become one of greatest artist in our time. I spoke with Wayne and he suggested to study animals at close-up which is what he did in the beginning and it seems like the statement holds true to itself. I'll have to find that site where you can look through various of close-up/textures of animals.

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution is in Mass and I believe you're in RI, it is not that far and you can always visit them. I'm sure they have some summer courses for students. I found this interesting, maybe you'll like it. [link]

VHS player? You can grab them for $5 at goodwill I think you might get lucky and find those series on DVD on ebay for $2.50, give a dollar or take.

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